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Hello everyone! I hope you enjoy your unedited access to my detailed analysis of the Apothecary Diaries episode 9. This is the episode that everyone has been waiting for, where I make my clinical judgment and comment about Maomao's suspected autism, according to fandom, and much, much more.

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dylan

2 in 1 week??? we’re getting spoiled

dylan

i think there could be a few different reasons she wouldn’t want to be responsible for their punishment. another example i could think of is that she doesn’t want to draw a lot attention to herself or make herself out to be a heroine/be admired. i do agree more with the empathy/so she can feel less responsible for whatever punishment they face theory though.

Jan Negrey

The only autistic trait people see in Mao Mao is generally "not picking up on Social cues". There is usually more to light autism.

Jan Negrey

Fun fact: "Tasting" poison was a method used in 17th-19th Centuries, before separation of many poisons was possible. Even extracts from dead bodies. Chemists taught themselves the smell and "taste" of poisons. Of course it didn't look like this. They usually divided the portion into such small samples that they could only record what the felt on the tongue. We're talking milligrams or less. I will copy paste part of wikipedia page from where I know those facts from. "Jürgen Thorwald (born Heinz Bongartz, October 28, 1915 – April 4, 2006) was a German writer, journalist and historian known for his works describing the history of forensic medicine and of World War II. Thorwald was a native of Solingen, Rhenish Prussia, and attended the University of Cologne. He started his career in 1933 at age 18, during the Nazi era, writing for publications such as Die Braune Post ("The Brown Mail"), the SS journal Das Schwarze Korps ("The Black Corps") and the NSDAP paper National-Zeitung. During the war he worked as a propaganda writer, focusing on the Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and the general German war effort. After the war he used the pseudonym Jürgen Thorwald in order to be able to work under allied occupation. In 1947 he legally adopted the new name.[1] Thorwald's book The Century of the Detective was nominated for the Edgar Allan Poe Award in 1966 in Best Fact Crime category but he lost to Truman Capote's In Cold Blood. In 1984 he was awarded the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany. Thorwald died in Lugano." Century of the Detective is the book that gave me all of that knowledge. It's a fantastic book. There is also Century of Surgery/Medicine and Triumph of surgery. Based on his grandfather's notes, who was an extremely long lived doctor and historian of medicine. He was there when medicine started taking it's first steps towards science and died in the early 20th century. It covers time period between 1805 and WW1. Since he witnessed most of it or his father (great grandfather to Thorwald) knew a lot of earlier details.

Psychotherapist Reacts

This is golden, I feel like you’d have a great reaction series to the show if you had a channel haha 🤣

Star Lin

Look here fellows...we're eating good tonight. Though I wish I had been around when you announce starting this series. I would have been one of the ones going "You poor sweet summer child...if only you knew." *clap hands together* Alright, this is one of the more insightful episodes with MaoMao. You can see that not only her time in the rear palace but also her visit back home as has started chipping at that 'wall' around her. She is right, as a commoner, any misstep could mean she can be killed and Jinshi would be the one that would have to 'do' that. I also feel like that speech she gave at the end effected not only Jinshi but Gaoshun as well, even if the latter doesn't show it right now. I might be one of the few that don't really see the autistic traits that others seem to see. I felt like I saw more along the lines of a touch of OCD but not quite that either at this point in the story. Again, I not going to add anything else because of spoiler except that I'm eagerly await your next reaction and detail analysis of the next episodes.

Psychotherapist Reacts

Yeah this show is definitely not the uplifting show that I initially thought in ep 1 lol stay tuned!

Krisko94

As far as Maomao and autism, I think people often misconstrue a couple things as her "not getting" emotions or other things. The most important thing to note, is that while MaoMao is usually objective and a deep thinker, she ABSOLUTELY has blind spots and areas she actively refuses to pursue. Love/Romance: because she is so desensitized from her childhood in the brothel Death/Impact: because her medicine training made her desensitized She will also actively stop thinking about things if the answers could lead her to become in danger or mark her as a target. Things like who Jinshi really is, who is fully behind all the murders, etc. She tries to keep a low profile.

Jan Negrey

Yeah. I have to explain it to people very often. I know the topic, because 30-25 years ago, my Mother was (even though she was neither a doctor nor psychologist) at the forefront of research into autism. That was before DSM-V and not in US. Back then what we called Autism would be today mild to severe autism. Like my brother has. The only thing from "lighter autism" that was recognized was Asperger's. My mother helped redefine it and worked with clinicians to come to some sort of consensus on how to redefine it. And that was around the world. I have to remind people that you do have to hit at least 3 characteristics and they cannot be explained by how you grown up. If you were left alone and didn't have any friends, then social cues might be more difficult for you to understand. That's not autism.

Waiting4Erik

A powerful warrior who could handle his drink is Conan the Barbarian. I’m not familiar with Detective Conan, but that is also an obvious homage to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle the author of Sherlock Holmes - the OG murder mystery detective.

Greg Boege

1:04:16 - I truly feel that, at this point at least, she couldn't comprehend how he would allow himself to be so attached to her due to their difference in class. I don't feel like autism is quite the thing here, more the nihilism than anything else. A nihilism which really is just the appropriate deductions of someone too logical for her own good. In a world which tells her that she's expendable she has the audacity to believe it, because it is true. This moment was the moment I fell in love with Maomao as an amazing protagonist. Unlike other stories where main characters act like main characters, she acts like she _isn't_ a main character because she would have no reason to think she was one. Such brilliant writing, in my opinion.

Waiting4Erik

I think people misconstrue Maomao’s social indifference for social disability with social cues. Maomao is aware of social cues, she just doesn’t always interpret them correctly due to her longstanding social indifference. She doesn’t understand the nuanced cues as well, but she is aware of them. Maomao is hyperaware of the social cues that mean life and death. That’s an important distinction and why I don’t see her as autistic. Maomao herself spoke of “reading the room” - a difficult concept to grasp for autistic people. Autistic people struggle to even recognize social cues; Maomao does not. She struggles to interpret them. This says more about Maomao’s life experience, than it does about her biology. If anything she hasn’t had the opportunity and/or willingness to learn the meanings of more social cues.

Waiting4Erik

Not just the audacity to believe it, but to speak it to someone that has the power to take it! I don’t think she realizes the amount of trust she showed Jinshi at the end. The closing sequences of her walking alone as the camera pulls back to emphasize the enormity of the Rear Palace and Maomao’s solitude as she navigates it - perfect symbolism.

Jeffry L Manion

Moamoa's obsession with poison to such an unhealthy degree seems to me, and I'm not a professional, to be a indicator of being on the spectrum. (I have a grandson who has aspirgers and he gets hyper fixated on certain things.)

Jeffry L Manion

Friedrich Nietzsche must have been a ton of fun at parties.

Ana Maria Zuñiga

I agree! I think her responses come more from the trauma than anything else. She 's constantly in survival mode, even when there's no danger around her.

Jon Daux

Being obsessed or hyper-focused barely even indicates something like Autism, to me this is an irritating result of pop-mental health culture. Or pop nuerodivergence? It's reductionist and also unintentionally demeaning to those with hyper-fixations—if you have a strong interest in something, you MUST be labelled in some way. You must be autistic, or have OCD, or ADHD, or something something so that you can be seperated and be 'other'ed because having a fixation isn't normal.... is the feeling I get from this. Having something like autism is not bad or something to be ashamed of of course, but it would be dishonest to ignore that labelling something this way is a way of 'other'ing them even unintentionally. To be clear, I'm not accusing you of this, nor do I think you have any of these negative thoughts. I think when an individual does it for the most part it's not with bad intentions. But as a general ideological aspect of our society it really rubs me the wrong way