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Hello everyone! I hope you enjoy my detailed psychological analysis of Horimiya, episode 10! I get a bit frustrated in this episode, and you will see why, haha! What an amazing show all around!

My main takeaways from this episode:

1) Emotional avoidance leads to resentment and often a victim mindset, which is unhelpful in improving our lives

2) The only way is through; we must confront the triggers that make us want to "run away."

3) Toru is the MVP of this episode. What a great guy, and all that tenderness underneath all that bro-ness is refreshing

Happy Sunday, Yappers!

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Waiting4Erik

Oof, I was Toru in high school and had a Toru/Yuki not quite dating friendship. Except my Yuki knew I liked her. So it was a deep yet frustrating friendship that constantly flirted with romance. Two people pleasers: me afraid to let go and her afraid to risk it all. And like Toru, I knew what I was getting into.

Greg Boege

8:50 - so it seems that your experience with YLIA is going exactly how I expected it to go.

Summer08

Thank you Benoit! I’m enjoying this show so much as I started watching it because you were covering it. Horimiya is such a treasure.

Greg Boege

32:10 I think maybe a good analogy here is that knowledge is leverage. It can't do anything on its own but apply a bit of force and it will multiple it

Greg Boege

39:45 - glad you were able to see the conversation in between the lines. I imagine it is easier if you can understand Japanese and don't need subtitles. Do people actually ever talk like this? I can't remember doing so myself, and now I wonder if someone tried to have a conversation like it and I was just oblivious.

Greg Boege

42:30 "nonviolenly, because I'm a pacifist". That's incredible work, dude.

Greg Boege

It's funny, I am often frustrated with the romance tropes of miscommunication and whatnot, but it is an episode like this where I look back at my HS self. In one case I was totally into this girl and thought she seemed to be into me, but I felt like it couldn't be true (inferiority complex and all that). A couple of years later with a different girl, a mutual friend told me that this other girl liked me. Long story short, I'm married to the second one, all because it was clear that she was interested. I'm not sure what the lesson is. But I'm suddenly interested in reconnecting with that old mutual friend and thanking her for spelling things out for my dense self at the time.

JAMES D'ALESSANDRO

Yes, Toru and Yuki have issues. Toru might be afraid to confess because of what happened with Hori, and we'll you know better than I about Yuki's issues

JAMES D'ALESSANDRO

When I saw that you were going to react to this show. This was the episode I was most interested in seeing your input on with regards to Yuki. I have watched other reactors hate her, but I always sympathized and somewhat realted to her

Psychotherapist Reacts

Hating her is a strong reaction, yeah for me it’s frustration and you saw why, because I see her great potential

Waiting4Erik

Toru won’t outright confess because he KNOWS Yuki won’t commit to a real relationship. Yuki’s more afraid of losing their current relationship than she is of deepening it. Even though she does want a deeper relationship. I went through this too. So I feel that Toru feels that the best he can do is be present since this is her fear that he’s tried to reason with to no avail.

Psychotherapist Reacts

Yep super understandable. We go through this in high school so we can be healthier in college and onward lol

Jan Negrey

Hori uses "cuddling" as anytime when a guy talks to Miyamura and they weren't close together before. I think she might have said the same thing to Tooru in Episode 2, since he got closer to Miyamura. That is actually a trope, but it's not used too often, when you have 2 guys and 1 girl and girls is observing how guys are friendly to each other. Sometimes this trope goes nasty into homophobia, but thankfully Horimiya avoids that, though some of the girls that talk about Miyamura and Tooru being close in early episodes kind of talk like guys being friendly to one another is bad. Though again, this show plays on it from much more positive side. It's more mentioned that actually played out. There is of course homophobia in Japan, like everywhere else, but this trope of girls don't understanding why guys can be close and be just friends or even just colleagues, partially comes from the fact that a lot of Japanese girls mostly know about guys friendship from TV and portrayals in shows etc. And often in Manga, guy on guy relations either indeed are gay, or guys are tough and it's obvious that tough guys don't show emotions. Think about it as if your only knowledge about guys relationships came from Rocky and some reality show that only has gay guys as participants. I'm exaggerating and in real life Japan, this is much less exaggerated, but there is some kernel of truth that girls in Highchool often don't try to get to know their male classmates at all, so when 2 of them are put in spotlight, some of the imaginations run wild. But in Manga it happens more often.

Jan Negrey

Snow is "Yuki" in Japanese.

Jan Negrey

Tooru picked it up much earlier. I mean there was half en episode on how when Hori and Izumi started dating Tooru and Yuki spent more and more time together. It's just that Tooru's wounded heart was still healing. And he was scared to say things too. But he started talking about the snow (which you misinterpreted initially as superficial talk about the weather). He isn't stupid, he likes Yuki and for a time he was conflicted because he was interested in both Kono and Yuki. But his feelings for Yuki grew stronger and since they started pretending to be boyfriend and girlfriend, Tooru was happy about it.

Agustin Machak

7:00 "I can't even analyze that psychologically" here had the same energy as "that isn't right. It isn't even wrong"

Olive Thrush

About Hori's "if you fall for someone else, promise me it's a girl" and "when I think of some guy taking you". Well, it's of course for comedic effect, exaggeration and all, but I've tried thinking what would make her say such a thing. I don't know to what extent it can be applied, but I think there could be two ways of looking at it. I think the easiest to think about is the exact opposite of what Hori says: in her case, her being fine with him falling for a guy instead of a girl. And I think it's easy because that erases, to some extent, any kind of responsibility in the break up. "I mean, what could have I done? He fell for a guy, I can't beat that, I'm a girl" kind of thing. But why would she be fine with losing to girls instead of guys? Well, ironically, I guess the reason is actually the same, the reasoning is just different. Instead of the relief of having no responsibility, it's desiring it. "If he falls for another girl, at least I can see where I failed and be better; but if it's a guy, there's nothing I can do." Not to say that this is necessarily what's going on her head. If anything it could be a variant of it. But yeah, it's a thought that always intrigued me. It's interesting to see your takeaway x)

Psychotherapist Reacts

Great insights and breakdown! I just messaged you, thanking you for joining, then you binged the entire series and now onto 86, hahah! That's amazing

Jeremy Herttna

This is definitely one of my favorite episodes. Sakura breakdown at the end is just so emotionally heart wrenching. I tear up every single time I hear that piano melody because it always brings me back to that scene. On a lighter note, I couldn't help but laugh out loud at how mad you were getting at Yuki during her talk with Toru. I'm sure it strikes you on a much more personal level, having to deal with avoidant people like you talked about earlier. It's just one more reason, I love this medium. Anime has hit me on so many emotional levels and on very specific levels at times, to where I almost feel like it's trying to reach out to me specifically. Also, as before, the dub, I think, had a line rewritten in a better way during Yuki and Torus talk. After Toru says his profound line about the snow melting because if the Sakura blossoms, Yuki says to herself, "Are we talking about the weather, or something else?" It's small, but I liked the change.