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Doctor Who 8x12 "Death in Heaven" full reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2020-08-15 20:46:53
Imported:
2026-06

Content

"I am an idiot, with a box and a screwdriver."

Files

dw8x12-patreon.mov

Comments

Will

I think these Cybermen are way more advanced than the series 2 Cybermen, and are possibly the ones that developed on another planet in our universe (well, the main DW universe!), not the ones from the 'Pete's World' Earth. I doubt the Pete's World ones that Ianto dealt with had Cyberpollen! Certainly not at the time.

Will

I think that was a false implication that Orson Pink was a direct descendant, which is definitely sad. Obviously a close relative of Danny, but probably the descendant of one his siblings or something. I suppose he might have been a direct descendant of Danny if he had children from a different relationship, but nothing to do with Clara.

dwp
>>42401070

Not 100% sure, but I think I remember Moffat confirming Orson is a descendant in another time line. I like to think Missy had something to do with Danny's death which caused a change in the timeline (therefore erasing Orson) which could erase him from Clara's memory and the events of Listen happened in an abandoned timeline.

Noah Patrick Moran
>>42401070

Missy either directly or indirectly killing Danny is really the only thing that makes sense to me, because it’s too big a coincidence to me that Missy needed them to go in search of the ‘afterlife’ for her plan to succeed, and then Claras boyfriend just happens to die therefore kicking off that series of events, Missy is nuts, but there’s no way she’d leave all that to chance imo.