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/424/ Aufhebonus Bonus - July 2024 (Patreon)

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2024-07-12 06:00:08
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On your questions & criticisms about fertility, culture war, and more.

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In our monthly mailbag episode we take points from the discussion on patreon, including on futuristic music, holocaust movies, german populism, whether culture war can be global, and the link between modernisation, productivity and birth rates.

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Richard R

Well, it's productivity, yes, but the lag time seems important. With productivity comes proletarianization--disempowering on one level, but also brings women a modicum of economic power not available to them under coverture. Enough power, arguably, to bring about things like anti-domestic violence legislation, among other more obvious changes like contraception and the franchise. I'm anything but an expert on this history, but I do know that men very frequently view anti-domestic violence law as an attack on themselves and on families. Some of this stuff is old (early 1900s UK addressed DV) some of it is new (spousal rape only became illegal federally in the US in the 1990s; SK launched legislation on this in 1994). So the gap between a boost in productivity and a culture which can integrate that level of productivity is where a lot of mess and strife happen. Like Phil says, it's not obvious that families have a natural form that results from modernization. But the atomization process does seem to point in only one direction: an unmanageable amount of work for individualized parents. It's unclear it seems if cultures and families really can "get a grip" on the pace at which production has accelerated.

Benedikt Aegerter

Part of the equation in Korea might be the difference between Christianity and Confucianism. The lack of a transcendent reason for the subjugation of women makes the opposition to it necessarily more humdrum, instead of the (imaginary) break we had in the West. The Sexual Revolution is after all a revolution. However drawn out it may have been in practice it's not how people came to see it. If the position of women as sole caretakers is just one other value among others, all of which are perfectly compatible with Capitalism, then that makes opposition to it harder to ground in anything else than the self- interest of women. Feminism in the West was also a pitch to men, for sex if nothing else. In a society where tradition has disappeared as fast as any sense of an alternative future what is in it for men other than losing an inherited leg up? A custom without the burden of a justification. Anyways, not sure if this is true.

Daniel L

I wonder if Brazil's "insularity" regarding music consumption that Alex mentions contributes to it being less colonised by the American lens. I am also reminded of a quote I read once that said that if there was a World Cup of music, Brazil would be right up there, due to the sheer diversity for starters.

NigelBOpinion

The claim about Brazil's musical insularity came as a surprise because a) so many Kpop/Jpop fans b) click on any 80's/90's alternative rock or metal video on YouTube and the comments will be full of Brazilians. I guess it's a reminder of just how many Brazilians there are. We love them.