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/531/ Interiorising the Border ft. Ryan Zickgraf (Patreon)

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2026-01-30 02:11:05
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2026-01

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Content

On ICE, Minneapolis – and your questions & comments.

Contributing editor Ryan Zickgraf is back from Minnesota and tells us what is happening on the ground. We also discuss:

If this was Trump picking a fight, why Minnesota?

Do the slayings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti mark a step-change in who can be killed in the US with relative impunity?

What are the implications for the 2nd Amendment and will this divide MAGA World?

Does a hard border necessarily entail a hard, militarised society too? Is the interiorisation of the border inevitable?

We then discuss listener questions on:

What is important that Bungacast cover?

The benefits of citizenship

Capitalists paying themselves for labour

The post-doomer personality

Readings:

South Minneapolis has had enough, Ryan Zickgraf, UnHerd

Enforcement Regime, Michael Macher, Phenomenal World 

Minneapolis Is a Second Amendment Wake-Up Call, Tyler Austin Harper, The Atlantic

ICE unloads, Ken Klippenstein, Substack

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Comments

Maria

You can tell me I’m wrong when these street protests evolve into something other than street protests. What is happening in Minneapolis may be more overt and brutal than previous administration’s approach to immigration and liberal “resistance”, but that doesn’t mean the street marches point anywhere new politically. In fact they clearly indicate their own impotence. I would have loved to have heard some critical analysis of just that—the liberal-left’s repetition compulsion. One more thing, did RZ really state that prior to this period people were not targeted for capture and police/ice arrest simply because of how they look? I don’t have the data to prove it but I am sure that racial profiling has always been a key tool for state immigration agents.

jkjkjkj

Georges logic doesn’t hold in rejecting Alex’s comparison between anti immigration policies and anti Covid policies. Georges argument is to say that the determinant of democratic politics in the context of immigration is the citizen vs the noncitizen (ie: citizens can tell the noncitizen to go and use whatever necessary mechanisms to achieve this end). This is true, but it misses the critical need for majoritarian support among the citizenry for the immigration policy in place. If the majority of the citizenry (and this can be gauged by opinion polling, elections/elected representatives etc) supports even the most brutal of anti immigrant enforcement it is plausibly legitimate (even if morally contemptible). In the same sense masking/vaccine mandates and passports etc are to be determined by the contestation of the citizenry. So long as a sufficiently large portion of the citizenry endorses these policies then whatever policies taken to ensure that the nonvaxxed/nonmasked citizenry comply with these policies are as legitimate as any policy regarding immigration: you must wear the mask or get the jab to access public spaces, your societal peers have decided so, just as they have decided that migrants must deal with ICE raids. One can argue of course that this in some sense violates the rights of the citizen (or the non citizen in the case of immigration) but such rights have always been political in nature and subject to modification as such, there’s no code of rights written in stone for either the non citizen not the unvaxxed/unmasked

Ghost Runner

It goes without saying that the left should oppose and protest the militarization against workers and dissent. Yet when virtually all the energy is placed on reacting to the spectacle, protests and mutual aid are integrated into it. What politically are the protests really for? Ultimately, leftists have to take a position that will inevitably exclude some migrants from permanent residency. We are nowhere near coming up with an up-to-date socialist immigration “position”. What would go into conceiving one? Maybe that is the next pod on immigration you can do?