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/540/ Welcome to the Apolar and Post-Multilateral World ft. Tom Chodor (Patreon)

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2026-03-17 12:14:17
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On "non-hegemony" and world disorder.

Tom Chodor, IR & politics scholar at Monash University, joins us to talk about a world that still retains the formal shells of multilateral institutions but whose contents have been hollowed out.

What is "multilateralism"? Why is it an important concept to capture the US-led order that is now falling apart?

If multilateralism was always in crisis, what is new today?

Is the emerging (dis)order multipolar or apolar? What's the difference?

Is multilateralism the historic exception that we wrongly take to be the norm? Why is there no going back to the post-1945 – or post-1991 – order?

What are the prospects for a new hegemonic order? Isn’t prolonged chaos and decay more likely? 

The full episode is for subscribers. Join at patreon.com/bungacast

Links:

Non-Hegemony, Tom Chodor, Jack Taggart and Ilias Alami, Phenomenal World

/377/ The Locked-Up Country ft. Shahar Hameiri & Tom Chodor

/357/ Lucky, Meaty Nations ft. Shahar Hameiri & Tom Chodor

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Justin O’Connor

Really good episode. I appreciated the clear eyed realism of the prospects for the future - chaos and darkness. Nice. But in a spirit that was different from what I would call 'nihilist realism', two exponents (from different ends of the spectrum) being John Gray and Branco Milanovic. I'd also point to the way "habitus" (a more embodied version of "worldview") is implicated in this break-up/ hollowing out of multilateralism. The real shock to the political elites is palpable and most can't bear it. But this is at a very visceral level. In Australia, the elites are so deeply invested in the US led world order (Defence Minister Richard Marles is almost an honorary US citizen) that breaking away would be like ripping themselves apart. Where in the world would they go? Who would they be? It's felt more here than in Canada because of the cumulative effect of White Australia - adrift in an alien asian region. Perhaps in this context is is important to look at the cultural drift away from US hegemony - not just new Asian models but the power indigenous culture now has over the Left here. Some of it silly. But at work is a radical transformation (or at least destabilisation) of the geopolitical habitus that can have crucial implications for any new hegemonic project.

noahcall

Great stuff as usual

Ricardo de Cillo

I guess the EU won't last much longer. When I watch Ursula talking I feel such a disconnect between her speech and what you can hear on the streets. Meloni, Liz, Orbán... the list goes on. We are all just waiting for Germany to bring its contender, then it's over. Very few people actually care about Ukraine. In Asia, particularly Japan where I see thing from close up, the LDP is also on it's last leg. 30+ years of low interest rate just to see all of the money being funneled into foreign investments. Nothing stays. People are done with this. In Brazil I doubt very much we'll see PT get elected again. In the US we went from having to do corporate training on diversity to fuck all in 24h. We are about to see some crazy stuff.