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/549/ Why Has Politics Genderised? ft. Ashley Frawley (Patreon)

Published:
2026-05-12 07:00:00
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2026-05-12 12:15:22
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2026-05

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Content

On angry young women.

Ashley Frawley, sociologist and senior editor at Compact, joins Alex and George to delve more deeply into young people's political polarisation on gender lines.

Why is there a lack of mutual understanding or goodwill between young men and women when we have never been more equal?

Why do differing political views on anything from Israel/Palestine to Donald Trump cause such interpersonal rancour?

Young women are centrally concerned with pain, trauma, and empathy – and see men as lacking. What's behind this?

How is the conservative explanation (bad lefty ideas) just as faulty as the lefty one (patriarchy)?

What will the political consequences be of gender polarisation?

Links:

Revealed: the new radicalism among young women, Scarlett Maguire, New Statesman

Meet the Angry Young Women, Emily Lawford, New Statesman

Why young women are so angry, Pippa Bailey, New Statesman

Don’t panic about “Angry Young Women”, Jack Davey, The Critic Magazine

Why do young women hate men?, New Statesman, YouTube

/394/ Girls, Left / Boys, Right ft. Nina Power (see for additional links)

Girls and Boys are becoming very different, Alex Hochuli, Substack

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Comments

Croatian Ox

Great episode! Also, hopefully, you can have Eva Illouz on again to talk about her new(ish) book on disappointment and modernity (and "explosive" emotions in general). I am interested in what she would have to say about the whole gendered thing you talked about with Frawley.

Davka Smolah Collective

Oh hey, a new closing song. And I always appreciate Ashley's appearances on the pod! A question that I'm left with, which I think could be its own episode, is: just how large is the NGO sector or "social problems" sector? How gendered is their employment? To what degree is this sector, as alluded to in the episode, providing third-places and mediating structures, in Anton Jager's sense or in the sense of technopopulist sense? In short, how big a thing are we actually dealing with? Are young women perhaps driven by economic rationality to adjust their self-construction and self-presentation towards this sector?

Maria

This may just be a matter of emphasis, but emphasis makes a difference as far as understanding the gendering of politics and the source of contemporary gender conflict. I am sure that A. Frawley would agree with what I am about to argue, but she does place much blame on global governance institutions for enforcing certain social values, as though these institutions are creating gender conflict. Perhaps they do enforce social norms, but reforming these global governance bodies would not fundamentally change capitalist society nor would it reduce the strain between men and women. Global governance is downstream of the real cause. The neoliberal economic (re)order created a worker, an employment landscape, and a society which in turn created the "neoliberal subject." The post-1970s mobile and global capitalist economy changed the family by necessitating dual incomes for the middle class (and above) and multiple-job, multiple-shift over-work for the working class. This development put women and men in direct competition for jobs, for shifts, for raises and promotions, for healthcare, for vacation time, and for retirement benefits. In the professional class, it pitted men against women in competition for dwindling career opportunities and women against men in the contest for status, prestige, grants, awards, recognition, etc. The dog-eat-dog world of twenty first century capitalism created the rivalry between men and women, between the working class and the professional class, between immigrants and natives, and on and on. Frawley often refers to a "they" and a "them" who she infers are making malicious decisions that undermine the rest of us. If only. Then all we would need to do is oust "they" and "them" rather than the more daunting task of making a viable socialist challenge to capitalist politics.

James

Loved this episode. What's the other podcast Ashley mentions having been on recently?

Cardboard

I agree with the point made about resentment. I feel it is the number one emotion felt in a decaying society. Resentment can be channeled productively by institutions but we dont have that. As mentioned, it seems like the return of genderized politics is result of political exhaustion and despair. This was a quick statement on the pod, but could talk about how this process might be prepolitical? Is hyperpolitics a phase we need to go through in order to exhaust all individualist solutions as neoliberal legitimacy broke down?

Pier Paolo Tamburelli

very nice episode. At a certain point you get very close to what would be my definition of politics, l try to reformulate here: every political problem can be solved by logistics and what cannot be solved by logistics is not a political problem

Justin O’Connor

It is "very fucking hard to be a young person" - my 20 year old daughter refuses to go on dating apps (not sure why) and is increasingly socially isolated. No one drinks. No one dances. She also distrusts the NGO mediators. I can't help thinking about the old third spaces, of young popular culture, and how they have atrophied under multiple pressures (regulatory, economic, disciplinary, technology). These are now found in fragments, some shards of broken mirror strewn across the urban fabric. In the absence of Patrie, they are left with only travail and famille, and these aren't working much either.

jkjkjkj

I think I just have to say that the constant referral to NGOs as this all present form of employment reads as huge cope to me. To my knowledge NGOs account for about 7% of the labor force in the US. Maybe it’s higher in Europe or Canada, but this constant referral to NGOs just seems like an easy out to avoid doing deeper analysis, the fact is that NGOs certainly do have an important role in the economy and probably have social influence that goes beyond their relative size, but they are simply not that common for the average person (tho admittedly probably somewhat more common with youths). Most people in the developed west ultimately work a job that is blue collar/service, governmental or a non NGO white collar job. Even extended to the MAANGOs of bunga fame I don’t think these represent anywhere near large amount of the employed sector among youths. Also I think there’s a fairly obvious reason as to why professional class women end up in dating pools with blue collar men: the fact is women have much higher college graduation rates, so if you don’t end up with somebody you met in college, blue collar/working class men are going to make up a disproportionate amount of what’s left. Finally, i tbink Ashley’s theory that transgenderism is being pushed on people becuse trans people are more mobile and less able to have kids is looney tunes. Frankly Alex jones theory that they’re using fluoride to make everybody some ambiguous lgbt thing is more plausible to me than that