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/126/ Mr Bunga Goes to Washington (3) ft. Angela Nagle & Michael Tracey (Patreon)

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2020-06-02 06:17:59
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Why did Bernie Sanders fail?

In the third in an occasional series on the US presidential election and the Left, we talk to Angela Nagle and Michael Tracey about their analysis of Bernie Sanders' campaign. We put to bed some bad arguments as to why Bernie didn't win the nomination, and examine some better ones: was the campaign was too establishment-friendly? too "left"? too middle-class? too anti-nationalist?... or are structural factors to blame instead?

And we ponder the end of the union of Old and New Lefts, of cultural liberalism and socialism. And the most worrying of all: was Bernie just a blip?

Reading:

First as Tragedy, Then as Farce: The Collapse of the Sanders Campaign and the "Fusionist" Left, Angela Nagle & Michael Tracey, American Affairs

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Felicity

Excellent, thank you!

martynas aukst

it is instructive how laying out your cards explicitly can move the debate actually forward instead of endlessly doing mental masturbation. so speaking about that, two sjws do lay out their cards eventually (nagle around 52 min mark when she offers explicitly the continuation of neoliberal austerity and tracy offering the same thing under the guise of praising tulsi who was also explicitly for neoliberal austerity - she was explicitly against m4a and federal job guarantee). so what was all this about? it was all about payback. payback against other sjws, woke sjws, who lost with bernie and now being blamed for it. whatever. endless culture war with everyone being butt hurt on all sides. fuck it, let them run their mouths, but what was embarrassing is that no one from the bungacast pointed that out to these austerity warriors. not even after conversations with fazi and bill mitchell.

Gee Mama

Tracey, I love you, but you're such a goddamn obnoxious retard sometimes.

Thomas Duck

Incredibly frustrating listen. Dismisses student debt relief and a green new deal in the space of two minutes. Quote 'finite resources and all that..' What does that mean?! Also, don't equate a green new deal to wiping out industry. It's a supplement/additional to what already exists. She obviously has no idea that it takes about 4 people to run a coal plant and that coal demand is plummeting.. and for fuck's sake dont quote that ridiculous Michael Moore doco. So much garbage, hard to know where to start.

ChapliKababHat

Easily the least insightful and most disappointing interview I've heard on this podcast.

big microbe

I like Nagle on occasion, but both she and Tracey discuss the end of the Sanders campaign purely through a cultural lens, focusing entirely on resentment and internet animus. It's like they're taking a little sliver from the pie chart of reasons Bernie lost, and treating it like the whole pie, changing the subject when the rest of the pie threatens to come up in conversation. If Tracey were better at this, he wouldn't come off as very obviously disingenuous, but he isn't, so he does

Tulley

yeah... if I wanted superficial, identity obsessed cultural analysis coupled with centre left 'sensible' capitalist politics I would simply read the Guardian