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/159/ Biden Time ft. Amber A'Lee Frost & Alex Gourevitch (Patreon)

Published:
2020-11-07 14:40:45
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2020-11-07 17:46:18
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2026-06
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On the US election, a huge turnout and the end of Trump.We survey the results of the presidential and legislative elections, peer through the exit polls and discuss some counterintuitive facts: Florida goes Trump but opts for a $15 minimum wage; California goes Biden while Uber gets its way; Trump did protectionism but it didn't help him win the Rustbelt; the Republicans win over more Latinos – but do Latinos even exist?

And the big questions: Will Biden and the Democrats have any authority now that they don't have anti-Trumpism to drive them? Is a Biden administration to be a Silicon Valley dictatorship? And will the GOP be Trumpism without Trump?Readings:

Are the Democrats losing on purpose? Amber Frost & Daniel Bessner, Jacobin

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Sam

Sorry to back-seat produce your program but y’all gotta get an actual Trump voter on

Elwyn

Love Amber.

isak austin

Sorry but what was that outro...

Paul Brewer

A good episode. I live in Florida and I think there are 3 things to note. Cubans are treated very differently from the immigrants from Latin America, so Trump's previous immigration rhetoric wouldn't have bothered them as much. The $15 minimum wage here was quite a narrow victory, needing to reach a 60% threshold and has to be implemented by a Republican legislature, so let's await the outcome of that before seeing it as a sign of realignment. It's pronounced 'gee-oh-pee' not 'gop'. Also, I think the point about Trump failing his working-class constituency needs a lot more emphasis than I have seen it getting. He won a few small victories but the jobs from China seem to be going to Vietnam or Mexico, among other countries. One problem with bringing jobs back is a growing skills gap, as former industrial workers are getting old or haven't kept up with the technology.

Gabo Goff

Florida unlike Georgia is not growing that fast so it doesn’t have the suburban yuppy anti trump thing. Voters are actually moving out of Miami. Many residents of Miami, and most of new ones are immigrants who can’t vote nor can many convicted felons

Gabo Goff

Blue collar immigrants also have no connotation or ties to democrats especially in Florida where there are no Democrats in power. These people would also face awful government system and may see Trump return to normalcy as appealing. Miami did elect a non Cuban mayor who is a Democrat for first time.

Joel

I don't think the fact that Trump voters say they are motivated by the economy is entirely or even mostly about a perceived trade-off between controlling covid vs the economy, although that's part of it. But one of the most common and effective arguments from Trump and his supporters was to point to the economy pre-covid, which had under 4 percent unemployment and rapidly rising median household income.

System of Systems by Safety Propaganda

This guy is absolutely insane if he thinks the Democratic Party is weak, or if he thinks that the “progressive wing” of the party is in any way functioning as dissidence to the party’s reactionary agenda, he’s dull (or doing propaganda). The Democratic Party controls 51 out of the 55 richest districts in the country, they have no need to organize the working class, and the AOC wing is merely a branding mechagnism for attracting young, over educated, dim witted woke lord urban voters. It’s going to get worse. There is no reforming the Democratic Party! I know this is a couple months old and what not, but I remember when Amber was courageous, she must know how ridiculous this guy’s ideas are about electoral politics. How depressing.