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/236/ Green Nazi Paedos ft. Lily Lynch (Patreon)

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2022-01-18 08:00:04
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2026-06
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On the German Greens' shady history.

Journalist Lily Lynch, editor of Balkanist, joins us to talk about her recent investigations into the Green Party, who are now back in power in Germany.

The 68ers attempted to combat authoritarianism and Nazi legacies through sexual liberation, building on the work of Wilhelm Reich. How did this lead some small groups associated with the Greens to advocate paedophilia – and even to accept former Nazis into their ranks?Later the Greens would fully embrace war. We discuss how their emphasis on "maturity" and multilateral humanitarianism became the means through which they justified their new hawkish stance and adoption of NATO's cause.

Readings:

Meet the German Green Party: From "Pedophile Rights" to Post-Pacifism, Lily Lynch (free)

The German Green Party's Oldest Member Was a Known Pedophile Nazi Stormtrooper, Lily Lynch 

West Berlin Had a "Radical" All-Female Pedophile Commune with Links to the German Green Party, Lily Lynch

How a Pacifist Party Gave War a Chance, Lily Lynch

What's Become of the German Greens? Joachim Jachnow, NLR (2013)

No End to Neoliberalism in Germany, Bernhard Pirkl, Damage (Dec 2021)

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noahcall

For all who read German, Sven Reichardt's "Authentizität und Gemeinschaft" (Authenticity and Community) is an excellent historical account of the 68er milieu in Germany, including a longer discussion of the Greens' paedophilic connection.

Bernhard Pirkl

great stuff, thanks for the shoutout!

Bernhard Pirkl

Addendum to Bettina Röhl: her father who used to be the editor of Konkret was accused of abuse as well.

Davka Smolah Collective

Every time I hear about these really extreme 68ers I end up wondering: what the hell do these people mean by "oppression" vs "liberation"? Why do we so casually assume there's a shared definition of such between a Marxist and a Green?

Sam

I love how in love all three of you are with Lily.

Незнайка

Hey guys, greetings from Prague and thanks for the workyou are doing. It would be nice to try to make some sense of the situation in Kazakhstan. I have seen a short video of Boris Kagarlitsky saying it was an attempt at revolution. Seems though it was crushed by the post-Soviet version of Warsaw Pact akin to suppressionof revolts in Hungary 56 or Czechoslovakia 68. Maybe you could have Boris Kagarlitsky on? I have just re-watched his talk on Russia. Also it would be nice to hear his opinions on the military build-up on Ukrainian borders. What do you think? Glory to the Kazakh People! Death to Nazarbayev and Tokayev!

Konrad

That the co-leader of the German Greens’ full name spells out ACAB (and that this wasn’t a source of irony, humour, or discomfort for the German leftists I’ve mentioned it to) really captures the legacy of 68’s anti-authoritarianism.

Paul Brewer

I would have thought the US equivalent to take the lead in a Yugoslav-breakup scenario is Texas — a formerly independent country with a distinctive sense of self that isn’t shared by states like Alabama. Utah is another option. New England as Slovenia is a good call, though.

Hans Gutbrod

I enjoyed the episode, and I think it was mostly a balanced critique of the Greens. I do think that it is important to highlight that not all Greens were on board with the paedophile tendencies, and some pushed strongly against at the time, too. In some ways, Cohn-Bendit arguably tried to cover up his own tracks by claiming that these views were mainstream. The other thing that was could have been a bit clearer in the discussion of "war on Serbia" is the context of Srebrenica. Germany had held off doing anything (much) in Bosnia for years and years (let's remember that probably around 100k were killed in this war, really a staggering figure), and I think for many in Europe, seeing Mladic going out of his way to lie, cheat, deceive, incl the Dutch UN peacekeepers, so that he could get his hands on a few thousand Bosnian men to murder them, this *actively* murderous intent -- yes, it made the Greens into a party that did not want a Srebrenica to happen again (all of this after Rwanda, too), but calling it "pro-war", sure, that's a fun shorthand, but it really was a tad more specific than that, and maybe good to have that context in mind, however critical one can be of Fischer and so forth.

Hans Gutbrod

(by the way, one generic point -- when you ask subscribers to share, could you highlight whether an episode is accessible to non-subscribers? There are some things I would love to share, but it would of course be easier if people could listen to a full episode before deciding whether or not to subscribe.)

Jonas Kyratzes

I remember that very differently: yes, the story was all about "stopping a second Hitler" but German liberals were frothing at the mouth - they were fucking *horny* for war. Going from Greece to Germany at the time was deeply disturbing. And the current German Greens are definitely extremely pro-war.

Hemakekh

Never trust a Greenoid

Ceren Temizyurek

I think the point about Wilhelm Reich and Massenpsychologie des Faschismus is really wrong and misleading. It’s a book published in 1933, and being extremely thick, most people don’t really read it. To say that it has had a substantial influence on the Greens and the 68 movement is really a stretch and an unsubstantiated claim. Besides, the book’s actual conclusions are quite different than those given by Lily.