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/353/ Bunga Sells Out ft. Jason Myles (Patreon)

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2023-07-25 18:40:17
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On music, pop culture, and the politics of the spectacle.

Musician, host of This is Revolution and Sublation columnist, Jason Myles joins us to talk about how every podcast is a failed band, if pop music is dead, and whether the contemporary left is a lifestyle brand feeding into the all-encompassing politics of the spectacle. We also discuss the music of De La Soul and the role of what Jason calls “underclass ideology” in contemporary America. Finally, we reflect on selling out: it used to be a cardinal sin as recently as 25 years ago, but now, if you don't sell out, you're failing. Why?

Links:

Stakes is High: Addicted to the Spectacle, Jason Myles, Sublation

Is The Contemporary Left A Lifestyle Brand?, Jason Myles, Sublation

Virtual Insanity: A Freak Show for Left Media, Jason Myles, Sublation

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Door Maker

I appreciated Jason's broad and deep knowledge of music history.

Dain Fitzgerald

Quibble: Daniel Patrick Moynihan did not believe black men were "born bad." His was a cultural critique, not some determinist genetic-behavioral one.

Gary

nice to finally see some houseless representation on your podcast 👏

Tymon

Damn good episode

Roman

Great discussion. Jason talking about the illusions people have about the “authenticity” of their favourite music artists reminded of an article in The Atlantic magazine from 2015. It was called Hit Charade and it’s about a small group of aging Scandinavian hair metal guys whose names nobody knows but who write the lyrics for a lot of popular acts. Here’s an excerpt (link at bottom): “Most Americans will recognize their songs, however. As I write this, at the height of summer, the No. 1 position on the Billboard pop chart is occupied by a Max Martin creation, “Bad Blood” (performed by Taylor Swift featuring Kendrick Lamar). No. 3, “Hey Mama” (David Guetta featuring Nicki Minaj), is an Ester Dean production; No. 5, “Worth It” (Fifth Harmony featuring Kid Ink), was written by Stargate; No. 7, “Can’t Feel My Face” (The Weeknd), is Martin again; No. 16, “The Night Is Still Young” (Minaj), is Dr. Luke and Ester Dean. And so on. If you flip on the radio, odds are that you will hear one of their songs. If you are reading this in an airport, a mall, a doctor’s office, or a hotel lobby, you are likely listening to one of their songs right now. This is not an aberration. The same would have been true at any time in the past decade. Before writing most of Taylor Swift’s newest album, Max Martin wrote No. 1 hits for Britney Spears, ’NSync, Pink, Kelly Clarkson, Maroon 5, and Katy Perry.” https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/hit-charade/403192/

Blake

I didn't really care for the discussion about music but everything Myles said on the George Floyd moment and the 90's crack flood was very profound.

Pier Paolo Tamburelli

somehow the erudition used to discuss the Milli Vanilli issue reminded me of the editorial history of Liber de Causis, same mess with the "author", although far more successful in the centuries than Milli V. Also, you should do a show with Steve Albini.

Yoni Egg

This was punishing. Though it must suck being an unsuccessful black musician when there are woeful bands like Divide and Dissolve making a living out of pretending to be indigenous. To say there are no grifters is just a crazy thing to say and frankly I lost respect for you George (you're my favourite) for going along with it. Just pathetic entry level record store guy discourse. Hope it works out Jason! Wish I could get a dollar back for this episode...