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On the World Economic Forum.

We continue our talk on the US left and Amber fills us in on DSA's collapse and the resignation of its head. 

We then move onto Davos and indications that the WEF is moving away from DEI, ESG, and other left-liberal concerns. Javier Milei gave a speech saying the West was in danger, that socialism was coming in the back door. What was that all about? 

If there's less wokeness this year, does that mean there's a change in ideas, a changing of the guard, or are business leaders adapting to an impending Trump presidency?

We finish by doing a brief preview of the US election and Trump's potential return.

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plechazunga

Did DSA have the horses? Wish amber would address this

plechazunga

I wonder if part of the vibe shift is some recognition that wokeness—and possibly other populist formations—if we’ve arrived at a widespread understanding that whatever substantive content these things might have, that they’re also basically mimetic phenomena. And that the hysterical, swarm-like mobs of the 2010s had less to do with the messages people were tapping into and more with the media through which they were receiving those messages. Which is a kind of eerie, transcendental move that’s maybe had a chilling effect on people and on The Discourse. Related: these populist formations always seem to be premised on (or maybe you could say what they consist of libidinally is) the whispered promise of some “esoteric,” suppressed knowledge that is finally being uncovered. Whether that’s neglected queer or colonial histories, CIA parapolitics, semi-Gnostic articulations of Marxism, Seed Oils, elite pedophilia rings, etc. As this esoterica has gone mainstream, been repurposed as content, as the “system”, in other words, has seemingly absorbed this stuff without issue, the revolutionary promise of the secret knowledge is evaporating. To reach for an inappropriate historical analogy, I wonder if we aren’t entering a spiritual 70s/80s after a 60s-esque ferment. Or, maybe we’re just living through the second decade of total access to the universal archive of human knowledge, and the dialectic created by that access (populism/technocracy??) is reaching a new post-esoteric stage.

Szilárd

my very substantive, old-listener comment: it's that time of the year when Alex pronounces Davos very weirdly.

Blake

Vibes are what Hayek thought the price system was.

Jonas Kyratzes

What suggests that there was anything even remotely real about Sanders or Corbyn? What is there to make us discard a sober Marxist analysis of how social democrats have always acted? If it happens to every movement with those politics, could it be more than just defeat? Why is the Left still so gullible?