/392/ The Biggest Country No One Talks About (II) ft. Michael Vann (Patreon)

On Indonesia's new president and the End of History.

Michael Vann, Indonesia expert and history professor at Sacramento State, joins us to talk through the election results. 

How did Prabowo go from wannabe fascist dictator to cuddly populist grandpa?

Why is Jokowi "Indonesia's Obama"?

What is Indonesia's Trump/Hunter Biden ticket?

What's up with the $32bn new capital being built in Borneo?

What is the Museum of Anticommunism, and how successfully has Indonesia's ruling class rewritten its history?

Plus: why is metal so popular in Indonesia?

Links:

Suharto’s Old Guard Is Still Calling the Shots in Indonesia, Michael Vann, Jacobin

Shadow Puppets and Special Forces: Indonesia’s Fragile Democracy, Michael Vann, The Diplomat (on police v military clashes)

Indonesia state apparatus is preparing to throw election to a notorious massacre general, Allan Nairn, The Intercept

Prabowo's 'fashy' 2014 campaign video

Prabowo's 'cuddly' 2024 persona

/391/ The Biggest Country No One Talks About ft. Vedi Hadiz

Outro: 

VoB (Voice of Baceprot) - School Revolution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aZX-C8HKJc