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[No Ads] S2 Ep. 30 - Mrs. Swallows Oak Garcia’s Home for Peculiar Teenagers (Patreon)

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2023-03-28 16:01:00
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The teens recover from their epic showdown in HELL!

This episode contains Profanity, Violence, and Sexual Content.

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Mr. Dukc

Good episode guys 👍

Jacob B.

I listen on 1000% speed aswell

Alicia

Woohoo

Mr. Dukc

The only way to listen, maximum efficiency

ronny

Its's timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Austin Baker

Thank God they're leaving hell XD

Jillian Keats

ACE REPORTER AMELIA EARHART LOLOL

Samantha Mann

Oooooh, I wanna try a reverse mimosa now!

chase c

After leaving hell Hermie just sat in the Livingroom with a pipe and a book under a dim lamp

wren.

SO MUCH HAPPENED. THISEPISODE WAS WILD

Chris Wade

Aww yes finally real dnd. Arguing for an hour and someone casting fireball

uncanny danny

this was all over the place i love it

J.S.

Freddie rolling a nat 20 to punch his brother’s character in dick is a perfect encapsulation of the dice tell the story.

Karma gray

I hate scary so much. But I love Beth. Please let scary die and have her roll a new character. Fingers crossed she's gonna play as Hero instead

Erial Zheng

Fuck I love Scary and Willie so much, they're so toxic and it's such great depiction

Joey Masq

Is Hero Oak technically named after the hugest mistake the twins ever made???

Alec Rudek

Willy's dark side finally being palpable, clarifying that he hasn't actually changed is so good

Alec Rudek

He did such a good job veering away from having to send Scary to a space station 😂

Lile Grey Churn

Matt please let someone else talk and drive the story for once lmao I’m with normal on this one the link decision have been soooo all over the place I need more normal and Taylor in my life taking charge. link and scary are just one “surprise” after another it’s exhausting (at least for me) love the show and will always support curious to hear others thoughts on this! If it’s just me it’s just me lol

Lile Grey Churn

Like Matt saying I would not like to kill the doodler after just snapping the pickI literally threw my hands in the air I was like dog make up your fucking mind hahahahah

MeetooCat

The next episode is gonna be fire! can't wait

wren.

from what we know, destroying the anchors with violence or empathy will cause the exact same effect; it won't destroy the doodler, it'll only untether it in a way that will allow the party to deal with it. it is possible for lincoln to both not want to kill the doodler AND choose to destroy the anchor violently, (and i'd argue makes more sense with lincoln's character motivations thus far). it's still kind of a bad decision because it WILL only anger the doodler more when it does get untethered, so it's a good thing everything worked out the way it did. (and i also don't think how the anchors work was explained very well in-show, so i can't even blame you for that) if link's character motivation is 'i just want this over and done with, and i want to kill the least amount of people as possible doing it', the decisions he's been making so far track with that. i think matt's choices as link have all been very consistent, even if surprising, and i think those kind of wild decisions make for good character drama, whereas other people don't like curveballs being thrown that hard, and I can't blame them for that. so to each their own there fsdfsdf

Cryptid Winkler

im so in love with Mrs. Swallows-Oak-Garcia

David Esarey

Oof, hearing Scary trying to deal with angry Willy gave me some Little Ron flashbacks.

zo perry

i don’t think it was a violent breaking at all? he even explains he did it out of empathy just to stop the fighting.

Lile Grey Churn

I guess my issue with the whole thing is like I feel like the crew has never grasped the reality of how big of a deal it all is… like making decisions on a whim when literally billions upon billions of lives are at stake. It just seems like if they really took into account the amount of lives at stake they would never break any anchors I get scary is still somehow being manipulated by willie lol but the rest of them knows what’s good and to me at least it feels like Taylor and normal never get to have any agency on where the story goes

zo perry

booooooooo are y’all really out here hating a teenage girl for being abused and not handling it perfectly???

Rargona

Link versus Scary is the next “12 episode Glenn” arc of the show.

Clint

The day finally came that my name was shouted out at the end! I'm chuffed

ハルナ

Scary and link would be the most stressful couple in the world.

Rargona

Finally, a dnd podcast

Tay

Beth is doing so good with keeping in character with Scary vs what would make the doodler problem easier. Frustrating me in a good way from when I was a teen!! How is Hermie feeling about Nick????

Jay

I love Veronica Decides to Die. Changed my life.

DungeonBrat

On god I've never been this mad about such a blase death in this series

Sean Valdes

Everyone’s manipulating the teens, why is scary different. She’s blatantly going against the party and everyone knows that’s a dick move in dnd.

g33krock

!!!Spoilers!!! Don't read if you haven't listened yet. Me too! Relistening now to see if I missed anything. Can't believe he's dead and in such an anticlimactic way!

g33krock

Couldn't believe it. Hoping it was a misdirect

Jordan Bergner

Really makes me feel a lil ticked that he was done off by a cantrip. He'll probably show up as just an upper half considering his son was just a head but fr fr he didn't have to be done so dirty.

g33krock

If not for anything else, he's been with us so long that I figured his death would have more fanfare. Curious to see how this plays out and really hoping that it's a misdirect. Maybe we'll get a Nic that's just a head on a torso with no arms

Max Wilson

Omg nick, nooo! 🤣

FusRohNahSon

Man these guys are so good at making frustrating and shitty characters for like only select moments like Scary and Link are awful to the group yet I still like them which makes it even shittier feeling

rnj

I’m pretty sure Darth Maul comes back as a cyborg or something insane in the Star Wars universe so I would be more surprised if this will be the last we’ll truly see of Nick. Hope so anyway.

Michael Dawson

No this is great, yeah it’s frustrating sometimes but I love the conflicting party’s

Samantha Mann

I’m kinda hoping that since he’s at least half-demon and he died in a realm other than hell that maybe he’ll be ok…? Probably wishful thinking but I was surprised how laissez-faire his death was!

FusRohNahSon

Why did Anthony kill Nick like that? Like at all im legit confused

Patrick

VERY curious about Scary's fact this week.

Tiffany O'Donald

I hate Willy so much, and only hope that Scary see the truth soon.

Jill Klatt

Everyone’s mad at Scary but Link is the lowkey villain. I love it.

Kait O’Mara

I love that scary got a taste of the true Willy. I’m not gana re word that. I said what I said. Fml lol y’all know what I mean

Diana

What an intense episode. Hope Beth is okay 🙈

Sean English

Sounds like teenagers to me, lol. I feel like they’re truly nailing it. Whether that’s entertaining to everybody, that’s a whole other can of worms.

The Overthinker

Jimmy's dad fact made me laugh so hard I had a coughing fit and my neighbors asked if I was okay.

Erick

I doubt Nick is actually dead, but I think Anthony wants the Teens to have less help from strong characters like Nick

Joseph Kimmel

With Scary betraying the group and being manipulated by Willie…. I am surprised Taylor has not realized the similarities their adventure has to Naruto. Hermy should become a secondary villain called the Six Paths of the Unworthy lol.

Mathew Reyes

So is nick actually dead now? I feel so bad for link, he’s trying so hard but nobody’s happy with him (except Taylor his best bud!) And can scary please just stop, get some help 😂

Jared Knight

wow. I just don't by any support for Scary what-so-ever.

Asprin Brews

WILLY’S TRUE COLORS!!!! THERES THE ASSHOLE WE KNOW!!!

Asprin Brews

Also did anyone else notice that HERMIE knows how to get to the goof realm??? But NO ONE NOTICED

Ethan O'Connell

Freddie just say Ethan so I'm counting it as my name lol

Natatta

Scary killing tony was just a goofy npc, but even indirectly killing nick????? There’s no way there can be a recovery from that. Taylor just got him back and now he’s gone thanks to scary. Even if the group survives this fireball encounter, a path of friendship and redemption seems really impossible. Maybe with hero being the chosen one, they’re trying to set up Beth playing hero

Amy Stokes

I love this show but I can honestly say..I friggin hate Scary. She became my least favorite and genuinely disliked character the past few months.

Ruben Blake Espinoza

I’ve been riding with the show for a minute and they’ve had some hilarious episodes this season but damn this talking in circles arguing gets old pretty quick lol

Ruben Blake Espinoza

How many ways can we say the same thing differently. The Scary conflict feels a little forced.

B. J. Boyd

I admire everyone roleplaying true to their characters even when it makes things more complicated. That said, the Scary vs. everyone is getting a little played out. Time to wrap it up and move on the the next chapter.

bbsincere

this could be my favourite episode so far! thank you all for sharing this talent to pull me into another silly story with seemingly silly characters, and making me feel real emotions.

Gay Icon Yog-Sothoth

I really hope they do an aftercare session (see what I did there?) after big confrontational sessions like this, or that they are very good at separating their characters' feelings from their own. Drama/frustration in game can easily bleed into real life, and this session was brutal for everybody.

Unfortold

I honestly think Beth May doesn’t know what to do with the character Scary. One minute she makes her seem like this naive innocent person desperate to be cared about then the next pure evil. Really hope she’s planning on either on killing her off or has an actual plan that comes to fruition soon. Her character has felt forced in to the team

Olivia LeClair

I really hope there's some payoff to the Scary drama next episode, because it's really bogging down the overall story and becoming frustrating to listen to. Reminds me too much of the PVP drama that killed a D&D game I was a part of. :(

Jeff Grant

It’s crazy how mad I get at scary about her and willie, but then you hear willie grooming her and the awful way he’s complimenting her then belittling her. She wanted to choose a father figure and pushed those away that loved her because of how forced on her she thought they were, and now she seems super desperate for willies approval. But now she’s killed 2 people because of him, pushed her friends away, and apparently is about to set the Garcia house on fire. I’m excited to see where this goes, I hope they can show scary what an evil twat she’s being

Anderson Van Dang

I super like Scary and I noticed how Normal recognizes that Scary had an absent father (when they were in Anger hell) but Normal can't recognize that Willy is trying to manipulate her by filling that void in her. Also to note that the Teen's fathers were all once manipulated by Willy in season 1, they too did some things they regret, I would hope one of them sees what Willy is doing to Scary.

Drew Noss

You know your not the only one thinking this. This episode kind of set it I stone, almost

Canon Reece

I’ve been following the show for a long time, it’s got me through some rough times and I love it! So I know y’all kinda follow the rule of cool and don’t really give a shit about rules lawyers, which is fine and I respect that. But Nicks death pissed me off and not because Scary did it. It’s because devils have literally two immunities and poison is one of them. So not only did Scary kill Nick with one of the worst cantrips in the game she literally did it with like one of the only things that can’t even hurt him. I understand the stakes it provides the conflict between the party but Nick got done dirty and it was lazy write out of his character. Like if she casts a baller fifth level spell, cool I get it. But that was a cop out death.

Mortimer Lunch

There are so many pockets of hilarity and wonderful content... and then there's the weird internal confrontation loosely tied to the story that's dragged on for episode after episode. It's just... so disappointing.

Angela Shrader

Hopefully he’s not really dead and Normal can revive him!

DantePendragon

Reading through the comments, feeling largely the same as many that I saw about wanting the split party portion to end, but Scary in the last second pulling it out. Congratulations Beth May. Solving an awkward social situation with Fireball? You are truly a D&D player now.

Cree

There is definitely a chance for this Scary B plot to be incredibly satisfying. Some of the best stories have genuinely hateful characters either getting redeemed or having their comeuppance. I trust the Daddies to get there narratively. But it is dragging on a little long.

Andrew Jemas

you guys really need to wrap up the Scary bullshit. it got old 4 episodes ago, and it's just the same argument over and over again. I'm sure someone's going to comment "but it's what her character would do, she's being manipulated/she's nice deep down/she's just confused" but I DON'T CARE. it's not fun to listen to, and it's halting any progress and sapping the opportunity for character development and funny moments.

Andrew Jemas

Unsure how he's supposed to get to the International Space Station in the next 5 minutes....

Emily

it’s calm down time

Andrew Jemas

telling somebody to calm down hasn't worked a single time since the invention of the spoken word

PAWGliacci

If they need to take a month off to figure out where tf they're going with this I wouldn't be mad at this point. It feels like I've listened to the same episode about 5 times in a row now and it's getting exhausting. Like, introduce cool character from the past but now they're ~traumatized~ or some other edgy thing, have mechanically weird fight with or against them, party says "guys we gotta trust Scary", Scary suddenly but inevitably betrays them, rinse, and repeat. I should say I don't think this is anyone's fault, TTRPG's are always susceptible to this kind of stuff happening, the story just isn't progressing. And instead of the setting allowing for that and having goofy 5 footers that were funny, it just feels like a slog. Idk, the funniest part of this season so far imo has been Taylor and Glenn having their "duel" and I think that's because that's the most agency Freddie has had in awhile so he crammed it full of everything he wanted to do. Idk, I'm rambling now, but I hope the next episode reels it all back together. Love you all, and thank you for the show so far, regardless.

wren.

no one in this comment section enjoys CAMP. no one enjoys DRAMA. interpersonal STRIFE. you can all be boring all you want but these past few episodes have been my favorite in both seasons. do agree that its gotten a lot darker, but its been so consistently funny ['SHES NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE'] that I'm in shock that anyone could view THIS episode as a slog. if this show kept going in the direction it's going, I'd be having the time of my life. literally the highs of the show for me are when the teens are together just arguing and sorting out their shit. that's not going to be the case for everyone, sure, but to each their own! angry people are more likely to comment than happy people, regardless. every opinion is worth having. but literally the only complaint i have is that i want to see the kiddads more and that's not even a complaint i just miss them

Meg

The amount of people who are only just now realizing Willy hasn’t changed is um…wild lmao

wren.

i'm almost certain it was a cop out on purpose. no way to tell, but if a character dies in a cheap way like that in a tv show or a video game, nine times out of ten it's because they're going to come back, there's a puzzle the players have to solve to revive said character, etc etc. the cast is made up of writers, they all know this. if nick was really dead, there'll be a full funeral episode and some heartfelt moments, and then they'd move on. more realistically, i doubt nick is actually dead, especially considering he's a hell demon who has the ability to regenerate in hell. it's odd to me seeing so many people criticizing this specific portion of the story when we've had characters who've had cop out deaths before, and they've always returned a few episodes later. although that being said, you're right, i wish they had paid more attention to the immunities and the mechanical aspects of the game, but ehh they ignore that aspect enough that it isn't really unexpected so oh well

D Cord

The issue is primarily Scary gets a pass for everything and it then results in wild situations (scary gets a long rest but everyone else gets a short rest?) that are completely against the book and only lead the story going into complete butting heads. It’s just a bummer

wren.

eh, i can see that to an extent. scary has been given a lot of passes on account of her being built to be the pseudoboss willy wants her to be. she gets a lot of level ups and a lot of handwaves the other characters don't, but so far i haven't personally found any of those advantages to be to the detriment of the show because it DOES make for more character drama, and the character drama is what I enjoy most. i enjoy linc spiraling. i enjoy seeing normal struggle with keeping the party together. i figure that some point soon there's going to have to be some sort of change in the pace of the story irt scary, probably on the next or last anchor, but as it stands now, it's way too soon after she's done so much for any of these arguments to be immediately resolved, and for as long as scary is working for willy, those kind of advantages are easier for me to excuse in-narrative. not trying to sway you or anything, if you're not enjoying it, you're not enjoying it, but the emotional tension and the teenage angst and the butting heads is fun to me, especially because I'm looking forward to seeing how the teenagers grow, change, and realize how fucked up all this shit is.

jeremy adu-asamani

Honestly I'd enjoy the drama more if Scarys motivation for her actions were more than just being a contrarian. Like if willy had threatened Terry at some point and Scary didn't want to admit her growing attachment to Terry so shes deceitful to the group. Right now she's just being a dick with no clear reason and listening to the one guy everyone called an abusive asshole because he..... Validated her a little bit? And that's wild because her entire gag is that she constantly is seeking validation and honestly she ignores the validation she gets so she can keep complaining. I might have to relisten because I don't actually recall willy doing anything for scary to even act like this. They aren't even related he's straight up just some old guy. So why is scary destroying all her social connections for this? I won't lie even if scary had a redemption arc right now it would be pretty meh since the only lesson she can learn from this is "oh I shouldn't have listened to the guy everyone told me was dangerous" or "I shouldn't seek validation from creepy old guys."

Ruben Blake Espinoza

I enjoy the deep story moments of the pod and I recognize the talent of everyone involved. Just wanted to give my opinion after the last two episodes, I appreciate all of you and the work you do!

Logan Reed

I like scary like I like daryl

streetdreams

What an absolutely fantastic episode. One of my favorites!!! Like damn, I admire this group for being able to have PC conflict like this xD I would not be able to take it when I play myself but daaang is it fun to listen to!!! 🥹 I'm also really looking forward to diving more into Oak family and chosen one drama! Matt also became just one of the best people at improv I know across the DnD podcasts I listen to, it's so so good. The way Beth plays Scary is so wonderfully infuriating and I enjoy it immensely. Can't wait to see where this will go. My heart broke so many times this episode in the absolute best ways. 💕

wren.

this is the first time ive seen actually pretty good criticism i agree with on this website, i'm in shock. i'm sure there's more going on between scary and willy considering we know anthony and beth talk about this stuff behind the scenes, but either way, it's hard to fully sympathize with her when we as the audience don't know what her motivations are or what exactly is going on. i feel like we just need an episode sooner than later to flesh this out, but even that might be hard to pull off, because she's such an internal character. i love analyzing characters (my favorite passtime in the world), but scary at this point is such an enigma to me that i can't even be all that mad at people frustrated with her, even when i like her more than most people do. fingers crossed we learn more soon haha

Jordan Tompkins

Ugh, Matt being so contrarian is getting old. I get that he’s playing confused but it feels like he is always the one throwing the team off for no plot-related reason. And his manipulative method in arguments might be realistic for kids, but it’s also annoying and feels cheap coming from an adult actor. Would be nice for Linc to have some nuance and not just be a needy brat.

wren.

say these words in the ring 1v1 fight to the death lincoln is literally the best character in the show and it's not even close

Dr Giggles

This season is going swimmingly! Let characters die! Yes! "Are you not entertained?!?" There are so many of them. Now, we finally get to one of the main courses! To be honest, I hope either Linc or Scary dies just as casually as the beloved Nick (even though I'm confused on how royalty of Hell is extinguished so easily).

Brieaunna Avery

I love Anthony, but damn. Let ‘em play coach. I really liked that we have trying to have what seems like a climax to the tension between Scary and the group. I even liked that Taylor made a good play. But I feel like Anthony isn’t putting in enough or working with the players like he did in the last season. Party gets rowdy and off the rails? Alright I’ll course correct and write a bit to make this feel cohesive. The party is taking interesting directions but I feel like Anthony has been squashing them and I don’t understand why. I agree with another comment about Scary’s motivations getting muddled. I think we need Scary to split from the party a bit and just see her with Willy or something. Or really anything. I can’t keep hearing the party needlessly arguing.

hal

very excited about all the setup happening. what's going on in the world? is there going to be a real party split for a while? is anthony gonna allow another party split? what are the other parents and hero up to? is this turning into a race for the anchors? there are so many ways it can go, i hope they do something weird with it

Tabitha McDonald

In combing through the comments I’m glad to see I’m not alone in my feelings of disappointment. I’ve been a fan and patron for years, but short of Sons & Sonsability, everything else has lacked; the campaign is at episode 30 and the narrative parlour tricks have long since worn thin, shambling in the well worn treads of season one but lacking direction and passion and soul and so many of the elements that made the groups’ works so fantastic, memorable and enjoyable in the first place; other audio content of this second season including one shots, MBICs and Teen Talk have more often than not felt for me as though they are an obligation for the group, rather than something they enjoy doing and have fun creating with their friends and colleagues. I have loved supporting the show and it’s team and creations on Patreon, and hope to do so again in the future.

Joey Masq

He's finishing the job the Aboleths couldn't

Uria, Lord of Searing Games

Man I can’t wait for another week of Scary being a bitch and them constantly infighting about how untrustworthy she is and keeping her around because the plot demands it…yaaaaay

streetdreams

I'll miss Jimmy! 💕 He is always such a wonderful addition to the podcast!!!

MalixCrash

What if Jimmy played Hermie?

Henry Watkins

This season rocks. I like it. Don't listen to the haters (or do if you want)

dagny

Far to much piss in this episode

FishE

works for Glenn

Lazaretto

Damn, what an episode 👀

Daniel Ramos

L opinion from Freddie. The Alchemist is great. Also tired of all the infighting. Glad it’s heading to PVP because the arguing is too much.

Jordan Woodhull

It's becoming a chore listening to this. No one is redeemable, the characters from season one are all tainted, and Link and Scary are so unrealistically awful and unlikable. I'd say everyone is unlikable at this point. The players couldn't even roleplay the parents and grandparents giving a shit about the characters they also play! I'm rooting for the doodler at this point. Or a giant meteor. Kill these awful characters and start over.

Ethan

I don’t wanna be too critical cause I’ve mostly been into this podcast for the laughs rather than the story but man it’s been the same argument going in circles ever since the Tony thing this is really starting to get on my nerves

Ethan

And the way Anthony kills off nick (though I’m sure he’s not actually dead) really just felt like the cheapest cop out way of saying “I don’t want him to be here for this next part”

finimellin

Idc what the comments are saying, I really enjoyed this episode and I'm sad to see all the negative feedback. I'm thriving off of all the interparty conflict thats happening, its fun and anxiety enducing chaos. I also don't think that Nicky is dead, just feels like too casual a death for such a beloved character

wren.

in one of the more recent teen talks (it mightve even been the most recent one) i remember freddie saying something about how this season seems structured like a jrpg? and my god every episode recently has felt more and more like that. we got our personas in there. we got our final fantasies. maybe thats part of why im enjoying this season so much more than last season [<-- enjoying jrpgs is my number one curse] but this season REALLY takes all the best aspects of that whole vibe without having to suffer through the gameplay and the tropes i could live without. loving it

King Humble

Link and Scary are going to be the real Clash of the Titans, and I'm hanging on by the edge of my seat waiting to see how this shakes out. Link, Normal, Taylor... Im rootin' for you!

Chloe Dyck

I agree with you on the arguing for the most part, but (in my opinion) this is one of the funniest episodes of the season

Chloe Dyck

It’s a little ironic how half of the comments are saying the Same thing about how they are mad the characters said the same things. This episode was great, with lots of plot development from Anthony (Hero, Willie, even with Nick supposedly dying) along with lots of comedy and an upcoming fight. I agree to some level the arguments are getting old but I would rather them because if the group just chose to not do anything about scary killing Tony it would be totally unrealistic. Scary has also contributed to the “death” of Nick so now Taylor has a strong reason to be livid at her and can join Linc if the argument continues which will add a new dynamic to the situation.

Rachel MacArthur

Me too! I hate having to boo the only girl, but MAN, she's asking for it! :)

Wandering Giant

I like the villain within the party thing, though her emotionlessly killing so many people seems pretty intense for a teen who's only faking being tough and emo. I wish they had her grip with that more rather than just thinking its rad

Wandering Giant

Nic better not have died to a CANTRIP good lord. A cantrip that doesn't actually do what was described, cast at a very high-level character

Wandering Giant

Nic has got to be such high level.... to die to a low level cantrip that doesn't do anything that was described by the DM... its gotta be temporary... right?

Wandering Giant

Idk about calling everyone else boring loll that's a bit much. The same argument has been hashed like 8 times now this arc. I don't think liking drama like some reality TV show makes your taste better than everyone else. I've liked these episodes, but I get why people are tired of it and I don't think that's because they're boring

Wandering Giant

People wan't Matt to stop carrying the plot and letting someone else do it, but I feel like he's always been one of the best at pushing the plot forward in ways no one else is willing to. I don't condone this specific instance but I wouldn't want him to stop driving things like he does!

wren.

I definitely don't actually believe someone's boring for being put off by infighting and party drama, don't worry, I was playing it up a bit because I disagreed with so many of the points that had been in the comment section at that point. I loved this episode, and while it's been months for us, it's only been a few episodes since Tony Pepperoni, and so in-universe the fighting hasn't gone on for very long at all. I was a little frustrated that people were trying to just get it over with without any resolution in sight, but it's such a popular opinion that I can kinda see where people are coming from now. loved this episode, thought it was hilarious and loved some of the stuff they did from a character perspective, but I can get why it's so controversial an episode. this season definitely feels like it'd go down smoother being binged after the fact than watching it every other week, but I'm too invested to wait regardless

Jacquelynn Lyon

I have to agree, listening to the podcast has become a chore for the last two episodes. I felt like the first hell episode was really fun and the group found IT again but all the Circle Talk and arguing has made me kinda bummed out. When the dads argued I always felt there was some narrative weight to it since it was often there some reflection on like, parenting styles. Daryl’s more traditional approach vs. Henry’s more modern crunchy approach. That arguing had some points of interest/grounded aspects even if it dragged. This arguing feels like an obligation and has very little relevance for me. Killing the mood.

johanna.elise

I think it's time for Scary to split from the group for a while. I actually really like her character still, but I have to agree that the constant circling infighting is getting a little old, and I'd love to see what kind of development might happen with a separation like what they did when Glenn was in prison. All that being said, this was a great episode- really funny intro, solid jokes, intriguing plot reveals, exciting cliffhanger, and a great reminder that Willy is still Willy.

Silent Rain

Scary gives off Evil Morty vibes but if Evil Morty was wrong in the end

Trevor Dorsey

Holy shit the phub intro had me dying. I've listened to the episode 3 times and still can't get over it 🤣

Michelle McCartney

Wait, wait, wait so Normal supposedly only got sub par doodler powers because he was Sparrow's second kid... but if he really is Lark's son then he's just as much a contender for chosen one as Hero, right??? Ohmigawd I hope this is the case, that's so exciting!!! 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞

renaeisgae

its good to here another great episode from our favorite brunch boys

renaeisgae

i love that in the beginning normal says "you four are the only people i have" finally acknowledging hermie

Taco Dragons

I'm still singing the outro theme music. It's such a banger

Mortimer Lunch

I love *good* conflict, *good* camp, *good* strife. This is none of those.

Brandon Sifuentez

This new dynamic is crazy! I love everything happening between link and scary! I really look forward to where this is going!!! TBH I hadn’t got fully invested in this story until the Tony Pepperoni death RIPTP 😂

wren.

good is subjective and im having a blast. sorry you aren't, i guess?

Morrighan

The mental image of Tallest Brunch Boy Linc wearing Normal's Short King Khakis has had me cackling for two days now.

Jubilee

I hope you do something with nick… sort of took me out of the episode tbh

Corn

That Scary and Willy scene is just chefs kiss

Giselle

i’m somewhat surprised & interested to read the comments !! i don’t personally fall into the opinion that the podcast has gotten bad & i actually do like it a lot !! for what it’s worth though - it has been really difficult for me to listen to this season, esp as it’s progressed. i personally attribute it to my anxiety, & my reluctance to consume media that is more anxiety-inducing… with each new episode, i usually have to wait a week or so before i can start it, & then it takes me a few days to get through it b/c i press pause during stressful moments & such (eg im paused mid episode right now) so i guess the texture of this season is pretty different from the first, but i still think the creators are still just as amazing as ever (they just decided to go a different direction w/ this project) which is why i am still trying to keep up with it even if its totally not my preferred genre >< i hope that makes sense! tldr i still greatly admire the group & think they have lots of reasons to feel proud of this season! its just not for me but i will continue to listen & hopefully in doing so will expand my horizons :’)

Robbie

Anyone else unable to download this episode?

Ben Sokol

I'm not sure if Freddie is doing his Howard Cossell impression or if he's doing his impression of Futurama's Howard Cossell impression.

Tessa Bell

This show is my safe space and I love every episode. It's different then the first season but that doesn't mean it's worse. The story is more complicated.Teenagers are often very dramatic since they are dealing with these emotions for the first time. The character are more dynamic then the dad's from the first season, and their motives are messier bc they didnt choose to be in this situation (wheres as the dad's where given outs at certain points in the plot and chose to stay and fight). Sometimes it's hars to process a whole story/character arc episode by episode when you're listening to it for the first time. There were section in the first season I thought dragged on (like the pyramid and the deck of many things) that I didn't enjoy until the second listening since I had a better understanding of why that scene was important and where it was going. I would compliment how Anthony is DMing and his storytelling but I know he doesn't like that lol. Instead I'll compliment how the story is pushing boundaries. There's a consistent theme of trust, motive, and what it means to be "good". Because the world the teens live in is much more complicated then the black and white world the dads' lived in. I can't help but questionable whether I think Link is "good" because his morals align in way that is actually justifiable or if it's just easier to get behind. Is Scary wrong because I'm applying my morals and logic to a situation that is actually much more convoluted then good and evil.

Tessa Bell

This is full of typos bc I typed this on my phone. Apologies

Kenny

I'm just upset scary did all that talk to realize she was out of spell slots just for Anthony to be like "yeah a red vine will do it"🤣

Lethal Stinky

I have to say, I was worried when the second season started because as they have pointed out multiple times, its almost impossible to catch lightning in a bottle twice in a row. But I definitely agree with you about the seasons feeling different. Last season felt like the dads had such a clear goal in mind of "get our children back" but this season is messier and more emotional (no like cry emotional but it feels like the characters don't have a handle of their own emotions nearly as well as the dads did, but that makes sense because teenagers). I think that season 1 was certainly goofier and but I think that I am starting to like season 2 more (starting with this episode) because it feels like the kids are more REAL somehow. I DM my own games and I allow conflict between players but I have a hard limit against inter-party violence because there really is no going back from it. Scary absolutely terrifies me because at times my heart breaks for her thinking that she just wants to be loved so she is almost daring herself to go darker to prove herself to Willy, but at other times she seems to genuinely enjoy to pain she is causing the rest of the group. I feel so frustrated with Link for the end of last episode but I can see how a real kid would do that to try to make amends and keep things together. I find that I am personally closest to being Normal, he reminds me a lot of myself when I started high school of wanting to be liked so desperately that I would sit on the fence of any argument just so I didn't upset anybody but you can feel that there is such a lake of real emotions and opinions that he is trying to not not rock the boat on. Taylor is..... just Taylor. A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, all in a weeb. But at the end of the day, the interpersonal complexity between the characters truly makes for a more interesting and tense season. Granted there was a lot at stake in season 1, but throughout 2, it feels like at literally ANY moment Scary is gonna just snap and it's gonna get messy. (sorry for the long rambling reply. TL;DR I agree)

Jake Lee

Scary is honestly insufferable. Lol

Angela Shrader

Relistening and this opening just really gets me every time. Freddie’s bridge section…it’s just so good. Lol

welcometojen

“Do you wanna blow this popsicle salesman?” 🍦

Carlos Sepeda

I fell like Nick did need to go at some point, but the way he went just felt lazy! Maybe it’s just because I love the character but cmon a hell demon who’s been through all he has just gets cut in half because a tween with daddy issues sprayed one of the weakest cantrips Into his face and he out of sheer stupidity and lack of special awareness leans forwards into his own portal only to knock himself out and cut himself in half. Besides that I think this was an amazing episode, it was one of the many time I was actually mad at what scary was doing which just shows how amazing Beth is at playing her character. Hats off to you all! (Just got to the next episode and dang I was bamboozled, I love this podcasts)

Div

Its linc for me

Hyperdriven

Man the comments were really harrowed back in the day. Why is no one laughing their ass off about the feral delivery of “she’s not supposed to BE IN THEEERE” by the GOAT Matt

ISwearImNotAnElk

3rd listen through and I still can't figure out if Will called Jimmy 'Will' in the intro

Nick

he called him will lmao

Jess Caskinette

The Scary subplot feels contrived. Them all ganging up on Normal early on had me shaking my fist in the air. Did not like.

Noah Fields

yo if you don't like it don't listen

Daniel

I was drinking water when Lincoln yelled “SHES NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IN THERE” so thank you Matt for making water go out my nose

Div

Matt is hilarious, but linc is so insufferable

FusRohNahSon

dude relistening why the fuck is Lincoln so mean to Normal? I dont get that logic

ez ra

people are so mad about the teens lmfaooooo i'm just like 🎧😌🍿

Marissa Y.

Dear future listeners, if you have largely enjoyed this season, but you get to the end of this episode and want to quit, I have to encourage you to push past the annoyance. ESPECIALLY if you like Scary (or the other teens tbh). (For context, my first time listening to this season, I had to take a break after this episode because I was annoyed. I spoiled myself on some things for the rest of the season (I love spoilers, okay!), and continued. 10/10 would recommend. I think the rest of the season was worth it, and the episodes after this definitely make up for it. I understand the criticism, and obviously it's fine to not like things, but I feel like a lot of these comments missed the message of "it's okay to be angry, it's not okay to be cruel." If the decisions of a (traumatized) fictional teenage girl have you this up in arms (no Nick pun intended)... idk, man. Just be kind.)

Joshua northrip

Will's flashback bit killed me!!!🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀

SterlingJT

Ugh. I love this podcast.

Ryan Frederick

all the comments on here and no one mentioning anthony saying the iss will be crashed in 2031 so it's still around but the show takes place in 2044 or 2045 😭

Eoin Warne

Yikes, reading old comments about people hating Scary is wild. I've been loving her character.

Eoin Warne

God damn Willy Stampler is such a damn good villain

Eoin Warne

Currently going through this for the first time and I am enjoying Scary as a character but helps to know that it actually goes somewhere like I've been hoping.