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The Mana Goddess was… dead?

That wasn’t… no, no, it was probably a lie from the fear of Wrongness personified, and it didn’t matter in the middle of a battle either way. 

“You…” Alphonse’s voice faltered, but anger quickly overwhelmed his confusion. “You lie!”

“I don’t,” Valravn replied, his body shifting and duplicating. The demon split into three identical doubles, each of them lunging at a different foe and speaking with one voice. “Carry that knowledge with you to the Worldsoul, failed hero!”

Valravn was fast even in spite of the debuffs Simon put on him, but the Overlord had grown in levels and martial talent since their last encounter. He turned his scepter into a mace and parried his foe’s blade with it, using his superior strength to force his enemy back. 

His other allies adopted different approaches. Alphonse clashed blades with one of the doubles, only to find himself quickly on the backfoot due to his foe’s far greater stats and martial mastery, while Voltobauta patently refused close-combat by turning to mist, put distance between him and the clone, and then fired at Valravn from afar. 

“Shrivel!” He cast on his own Valravn, slightly reducing his Agility compared to the other doubles. 

“I can’t see the real one!” Alphonse warned his allies as he found himself pushed back by a relentless flurry of blows from his current opponent. The three Valravns were clearly trying to disperse the group. “And debuffs don’t spread from one dou—ah!” 

The enemy’s sword had struck at his shoulder so deeply that the blow would have likely sliced him in half without all of his Paladin protections. 

This news annoyed Simon but didn’t surprise him. He could feel otherworldly influence pushing against his mind, trying to worm its way into his senses to lead him astray, only to be swiftly repelled.

Stranger Paradise negated by Indomitable Crown!

“Mind protection?” Valravn grunted as their weapons clashed, his voice a whisper. Paladins were shielded from such trickery, and an undead like Voltobauta had innate resistance against similar effects. “I see you came prepared.” 

They did. Their group had had the foresight of calling on the shades of ancient heroes who fought Valravn in the past, so they had a rough idea of his abilities. He could prevent allies from recognizing each other through illusions, which he usually used in tandem with body doubles to sow chaos and confusion; he could create duplicates of himself, some being mere optical illusions and others solid enough to inflict real damage; he could alter his limbs and form at will; and he could manipulate shadows. 

However, they had little information on Verney’s Techniques beyond what all high-level Fencers could do naturally. Ser Richard had put forward a few guesses based on the days back when they fought on the same side, but he was sure to have missed a few like this Spellsunder. 

Simon had hoped some of the Paladin’s Perks like his Darksense would identify the real Valravn from his doubles, but the Domain’s anti-divination feature probably interfered with that. Not even his own Dark Visionary senses could tell, though that might be the result of his own miasma control being disrupted from that earlier strike. 

At least Simon still knew one spell that didn’t require much miasma control, since it didn’t use his own. 

“Pandemic Bomb.”

His order reverberated to the tune of a dozen goats’ deaths through his Devil Brands, heralding the beginning of the Attic’s collapse. The sudden shift in the Abyssal Domain’s metaphysical weight took the form of a tremor spreading through space itself. 

The rumble took the clone in front of Simon aback, which allowed him to follow through with a Technique of his own. “Underworld Hammer.”

He struck Valravn so hard and so viciously that the ground below his feet sprouted fire. 

A surge of flames erupted from the point of impact as if the Attic’s floor was normal earth, though that was likely the result of Techniques transcending the world’s logic. Valravn dissipated into shadows at the impact, revealing himself to be a copy.

He couldn’t say the same of the one fighting Alphonse. 

“Bladebreaker.”

Valravn shattered Alphonse’s sword with one blow, and then sliced his right arm off. The Paladin’s scream of pain echoed throughout the Attic as blood poured out of his wound. Another slash cut from his right shoulder to his hip and brought him to his knees. 

“No wonder you had to submit to the Overlord.” Valravn raised his sword for a lightning-fast decapitation strike. “A weakling like you is no match for hi—”

The Zodiac Fiend growled in pain rather than finish his strike as he and his double’s free hands reached for their chests in perfect coordination. A terrible buzzing noise resonated throughout the entire Domain while the closed doors above their heads cracked under the pressure of countless flies filling the corridors.

Both Simon and Voltobauta seized their chance. The former transformed his Overlord mace into a sheathed sword with Warmonger and triggered his Quickdraw Technique, while the Necromancer shot his own opponent straight in the head. 

Simon closed the gap separating him from the Valravn about to kill Alphonse in the blink of an eye and cut him in two, reducing him to shadows. The one Voltobauta shot stumbled back as the manalith projectile exploded. The blow would have blown off a normal person’s head, but only left the demon with a wound dripping with liquid quicksilver.

“I’ve got the real one!” Voltobauta shouted, only for another tremor to follow. He looked up to see poison corroding the doors above. “Uh oh…”

The portals shattered, and a flood of flies fell upon the Attic in a tide of vermin. The bugs swarmed the sky and corridors, delivering death and destruction to all the Cobweb’s hideouts across the world and causing the pocket dimension to start collapsing under its own spiritual weight. The anti-teleportation effect of the Abyssal Domain had already been deactivated.

The wounded Valravn looked up to the army of hungry flies rushing down on him, and did what any coward would: he summoned a shadowy door and rushed to it in an attempt to escape. 

“This whole place is going to blow!” Voltobauta shouted. The door sky had begun to collapse into pieces upon them. 

“Take Alphonse and teleport out to Belzemine!” Simon ordered the Necromancer as he pursued Valravn. “We’ll regroup after he gets some healing!”

Valravn opened the door and rushed through with Simon hot on his tail, while Voltobauta grabbed Alphonse and used a teleport gem to disappear. No sooner had the Overlord crossed the threshold that he felt the pocket dimension collapsing on itself behind them.

The door led into an underground and dimly-lit crypt, likely located below Verney’s castle. Tremors shook the walls from distant explosions. Valravn ran into darkened tunnels while Simon followed, his steely footsteps echoing throughout the passages. It wasn’t long before he lost sight of the demon, much to his annoyance.

“There’s nowhere to run to!" Simon shouted. He could feel his miasma control was starting to return. “You are cornered!”

“That I may be,” Valravn’s voice echoed from the shadows, “but this snake still has his fangs!”

Simon grunted and tested his restored magic by renewing his cursebuffs, including the illusion-piercing Clear Eyes, then picked up on a noise coming from deeper in the crypt. He warily followed the trail until he entered some kind of large mausoleum vault supported by four wide pillars of piled up bones. The walls were lined with skeletons caked in mud, and the floor covered in a mosaic representing Prophetess Pharis herself.

A battle was already underway there. Ser Richard and Alcyone were clashing blades with three of Verney’s clones, the echoes resounding across the crypt. It only took Simon a glance to realize the issue at hand. 

“A little help here?” Alcyone asked upon spotting Simon. 

“As you wish,” Simon replied. 

He activated Hellfire Gaze and blasted every person there with his unholy sight. 

It was true his Dark Visionary vision couldn’t tell Valravn apart from his doubles… but it could detect the small, nearly imperceptible whiff of miasma radiating from them, even when disguised. It was true shapeshifting rather than illusions, or his spell would have seen through the disguises, but the demon’s deception was still no match for his third eye. 

Since all of them were impostors, he burned them to a crisp with Hellfire Gaze. He watched the Valravns and his fake teammates dissipate into smokeless flames and shadows, before quickly realizing his error.

The real one wasn’t among them.

He snuck behind me! Simon immediately turned while preparing to cast Chaos Wave to throw the enemy back, when a detail left him frozen in place: pink petals falling from nowhere. Cherry blossoms?

“Crimson Blossom.”

Valravn’s sword struck him like a whip from a thousand directions.

The onslaught of slices was so quick and violent it seemed to come from everywhere at once. Valravn’s blade moved at such a terrible speed it appeared to multiply, his sword shifting into six iron fangs biting relentlessly. The cuts reached through the chinks in his armor with swift violence and drew his poisonous blood. 

Critical hit! Critical hit! Critical hit! Bleed ailment transferred by Love–Bleed ailment!

The onslaught of slices left Simon little room to free himself from the combo, but his acidic blood dulled the enemy blade enough to provide an opening. He managed to activate Devil’s Arm and grabbed Valravn by the chest. He immediately activated Crown of Pain, the sight of it briefly causing the demon to falter. 

“Suffer!”

He ripped the veil between dimensions open and attempted to cast Valravn into Hell.

It suddenly occurred to Simon that he hadn’t checked whether the imp he stuck there in the previous reign was still there, but the demiplane appeared empty enough to hunger for Valravn. He could taste the fear in the Zodiac Fiend’s voice. 

“No…” Valravn’s heart pulsated with darkness. “No!”

The Twins’ crystal unleashed a wave of miasma that threw them both away from each other and cancelled out Simon’s ability. However, he immediately exploited the opportunity to cast Ruin. Patches of black sores appeared on Valravn’s skin, to Simon’s delight. 

There was something darkly amusing about how everyone seemed to have a counter to the Poison ailment, but not Disease. 

The weakened archfiend rushed at him once again, using the very exact same Technique he used to disrupt Darkbound earlier, but Simon blasted him across the mausoleum with Chaos Wave. He crashed through a bone pillar. 

I’ve learned my lesson. You’re never getting close enough to do that again. Simon activated Hellfire Gaze and forced Valravn to vanish back into the shadows to avoid being incinerated. He also drained some of his remaining livestock to heal himself a bit, while pitying the poor imperial spy Shabram selected to marry him. That woman must have suffered a lot across the reigns. Mages are helpless with disrupted magic, but so is a swordsman who can’t reach their target.

Unfortunately, Valravan still had a few ranged options. He danced around Simon, waving crescent-shaped blades of light with his sword and firing shadowy orbs from his hand. Simon transformed his mace into a shield to protect himself while retaliating with Ectoplasmer. 

“This crown… it’s Nodens’ power…” Valravn hid behind one of the remaining pillars. His voice wavered. “Is that what you are after, Overlord? My strength?”

“Your head will suffice.” Simon blasted the pillar apart with a burst of Hellfire, only to find nothing behind it. He quickly cast Chaos Wave and repelled Valravn as he emerged from the shadows once more. He might have managed to land a blow had he not been so drastically slowed down. 

The disease, debuffs, and his Domain’s loss are taking their toll. Simon grunted at the poisonous blood dripping between his fingers. The Crown of Pain thankfully didn’t affect him personally, but he was still a little hurt a bit from that last Technique. I can outlast him. 

Then a hole opened up in the ceiling.

Both Simon and Valravn looked up to see a knight falling upon the latter, a copy of the Mana Sword in his hands. The archfiend barely had time to raise his own weapon to protect himself, but his attacker shattered it on impact with the very same Technique he used to defeat Alphonse earlier. Another swing nearly gutted Verney and threw him back a few feet. 

Valravn growled upon rising back up, his tunic drenched in oozing shadow and quicksilver. “Richard.”

“What have you done to yourself, Thomas?” Ser Richard raised a hand when Simon took a step forward to assist. “Where is the man of the people I so admired?”

“There was once a time when this vessel of mine dreamed of a better world.” Valravn summoned another sword from the darkness itself. “But humans are weak of heart, Richard. The powerful laugh at the misery of those dying in the gutters, whereas the lowborn would rather have slaves of their own rather than seek freedom and equality.” 

Richard tightened his grip on his weapon. “Is there anything left of you inside this thing?”

“Only bitter hatred, I’m afraid.” Valravn wreathed his sword in blue flames and adopted a fighting stance. “All I care about now, is to plunge this world into an abyss of terror and to dance among screams.”

Ser Richard let out a sigh of resignation. “Why did you have to say that?”

A pillar of light burst through from the ceiling and smote Valravn. 

The archfiend screamed in pain as holy radiance incinerated him. It seemed the very sun had burst into the crypt and set it ablaze. Simon himself had to raise his hand to protect his eyes, though he distinguished two forms descending from above. 

Frea floated above them while clad in her Sage outfit, her staff raining holy light keeping the archfiend firmly pinned in one place and away from any shadows. Belzemine floated down behind her, her fingers flickering with fire. 

“Teraburn.”

Blue flames blasted Valravn’s skin and clothes, leaving his misshapen, faceless body exposed. He had no mouth to scream with, and yet his wail had grown louder than a company’s worth of minstrels. 

Simon quickly realized that Ser Richard had simply sought to distract Valravn, and he quickly joined in on the effort with Hellfire Gaze. The demon tried to crawl away, but there was no shadow left for his thieving self to take refuge in. Soon, all that remained of him were ashes, the Zodiac crystal of the Twins, and a small rush of experience. 

Thomas Verney had been slain by the very same light he so adored. 

Level 72 Overlord Perk: Unyielding Essence V (Passive): You gain immunity to Bleed, Slow, Blind, Stasis, and Silence. 

That…

That was it? 

Ailment immunities—though it could have come earlier and made a few Titles redundant—but… only one level after slaying him? Even taking into account the fact that his experience was split between multiple people, Simon had hoped to gain at least one more level from slaying such a dangerous foe.

Could it be a trick? Simon wondered as he quickly moved to grab the Twins crystal. The malice and power inside was unmistakable. No, no, this is no forgery. 

Valravn, hidden leader of the Cobweb and extraordinary thorn in Simon’s foot, was finally dead. 

—----------

As Simon had guessed, the crypt Valravn had fled to had been located inside his castle. It was likely full of traps or holding a secret vault for him to hide in emergencies. They would have some time to explore the premises. 

It turned out Alcyone and the others had been busy while Simon’s group confronted Verney. A fetch impostor had replaced the count during the dinner while the castle’s staff was entirely made of the Cobweb’s Fangs, murderous mannequins, and automatons. Alcyone had had little trouble handling them, and it pleased Simon to learn that Renal had been among the casualties. 

As for Alphonse, he would live, though he would have perished already without Belzemine and his Paladin Perks. 

“Paladins are quite hardy,” Alcyone commented. “The one that gave the White Unicorn its name fought Gargauth for days on end. She healed almost faster than he could hurt her.”

“I’ve heard the tales.” Though Alphonse still had a long way to go before he could even meaningfully contribute to any Zodiac Fiend confrontation. “Did Voltobauta tell you?”

“About that claim that the Mana Goddess is dead?” Alcyone scoffed. “That’s just not possible.”  

“I agree, it doesn’t add up.” Besides the fact that Simon knew better than to believe a master liar, there were some pretty big inconsistencies in his claim. “She’s the Worldtree’s dryad. She can only dies if it does, and that would have destroyed the world's balance already.”

“Yeah, not to mention she answers Prayers all the time.” Doubt suddenly crept on Alcyone’s face. “Huh.”

Simon raised an eyebrow, before he quickly guessed what was on her mind. “We know of at least one case of Prayer impersonation.”

“Yes… yes, it wouldn’t hurt to confront Frea over it once we’ve finished scouring this cursed castle of its rats. I’ve always wondered why the Mana Goddess hasn’t been seen in centuries…” Alcyone crossed her arms. “Illusea has some pretty big explaining to do for hiding the Zodiac Fiends from us.”

So they were finally starting to believe. Simon had allowed Alcyone’s crew and the others to keep the Twins crystal for study, largely because he couldn’t devour it at this time and he needed them to confirm it was indeed a Zodiac Fiend. 

“Is Valravn truly dead?” Simon wondered. 

“He seemed as pretty dead as one can possibly be, though I’ll have Volto check by summoning Verney’s soul.” Alcyone crossed her arms. “Didn’t you say that he could create duplicates?”

“Yes, and split at least one person in two different individuals.” Could that be connected to the fact his host’s name didn’t appear when he used his Domain? “You think he could have one more body double hidden somewhere?”

“You tell me. What’s bothering you about this?”

“It’s just… I only got a single level out of Verney’s death.”

“Welcome to the life of a high-level person!” Alcyone laughed at him. “Hear me out. You know Muse, the country full of engineers?”

“Yes, I can read a map.”

“Their Arithmancers spent years studying the exp curve to figure out how it works, and they’ve gotten close enough to learn this startling fact: it takes as much experience to bring a level 1 person to level 54, for a level 73 fighter to reach level 74.”

Simon remained silent as the enormity of that statement sank in. It was no wonder Louis was so eager to start a civil war. Nothing short of tearing down their family’s own empire would give him that rush. 

“It blows the mind, doesn’t it? And the exp difference between level 89 and 90 is the same gulf that separates level 1 from 71.” Alcyone kept rubbing salt on his wounds. “Once you hit the seventies, you either live out your archetype every single second of your life, or you pray for an elven lifespan. I wouldn’t be where I am if I wasn’t constantly on the lookout for fabled lost continents.”

“You don’t want me to live every day of my life as the Overlord, Alcyone.”

“I don’t, for sure.” Alcyone smiled at him. “You’re right though, it’s too early to celebrate. The Rogue, that Ludwig Bert, and Chrom Cruak were nowhere to be found today, so we’ll have to assume they’re stranded somewhere. They might cause us some trouble in the future.” 

True. The Attic’s destruction and the Twins’ capture had mostly destroyed the Cobweb as an organization, but it still left a few loose ends. “The Rogue is likely in Valne at this moment, and Bert has a trap-filled mansion in Muse, but I’ve no idea where Chrom Cruak could be. I could create a device compelling Valravn to answer us.” 

“I’m sure we’ll find a clue somewhere in these dusty old crypts.” Alcyone patted him on the shoulder. “Let’s rob some graves while Volto isn’t here to complain about it.”

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Shs123

My drugs have been delivered! Thank you!

Greenstar Player

Thanks for the chapter. Anyway, Valravn can wait a bit for me personally beucase DELTARUNE TODAY!!! IN 30 MINUTES!!! Neither Light, Dark, God, Demon nor Overlord shall deny me!

Mihai

TFTC

Hive Tyrant

Hurrah for a level. Boo for only one level!

Diego Urbina

Lol Simon's exp complaint is funny.

bro dood

agh i can't decide whether alcyone and simon are going to get together romantically or just be besties

Zihjam

I’m guessing that the moment Mardok and Grampa Magnos succeeded in the Overlord ritual, Abraxas became the one that holds up the metaphysics of the world, replacing the Mana Goddess. That’s probably why she can’t interact with prayers anymore, the entire world is encircled in a gigantic Abyssal Domain and she’s stuck outside.

Randoudo

I see someone is inspired by Mother of Learning lol

Flufflez

On the one hand, Simon didn't get to hog xp by 1v1ing Valravn. On the other hand, Nodens' title changed from Painbringer to Flayer of Worlds when he was boosted by Abraxas, so maybe a boosted Valravn would be different enough for Simon to potentially 1v1 him and get all the xp.

mhaj58

I’m kind of underwhelmed considering how much trouble Valravn gave Simon in Lux Vult, although I wonder if Simon could devour his crestone

George R

Great chapter

alejandrox

Thank you for the chapter!!!! Finally!!! VALRAVN is dead!!!! Justice for the MILFs!!!!

Michael

The ol' 92 is halfway to 99 problem

Jasus

So has Alphonse lost his Hand or can Belzamine regrow hands?

Alibhai

Louis is the other half isn't he? He has to have some connection! There are too many references for it be a red herring.

Noxx

If Simon 1v1 Valravn now he'd get flatted. Quite literally depending on how big he'll get. On a safe estimate, Simon would have to be in the early 90's to try and at that point it wouldn't be worth it.

Leedie

Poor Simon, no piling levels for him

alejandrox

You can only devour the zodiac demons when the comet is above them, in their respective constellation and at its maximum strength; you have to defeat it there and then Simon can devour them.

MasterofNova

This latest perk truly feels like a spit in the face. Think it makes three of his titles outright useless now.

alejandrox

I suppose Belzemine and Frea have advanced spells to heal his hand; with magic, anything is possible, and Belzemine is a level 70+ healer.

Big I

Nice, immunity to Bleed and Stasis.

Randoudo

At least we won't have that annoying bleed anymore.

Randoudo

Yeah, i like to trash talk Nodens but Simon was carried hard by Alcyone sacrifice there, so Valravn would be very difficult without Louis/Euphemia right now.

hi angus

Surely Voidy would have mentioned Adventurer romance in the description of this reign... unless he secretly WANTED the vampire reign! You have been caught!

MasterofNova

Highly doubt it. The only connections we really have is the fact that Louis killed the real Count Verney and Valvran has just been impersonating the guy. At most it's been noted multiple times that Louis is more demonic or draconic in his mentality than human. That's about it. Also Louis was the host of a different Zodiac Fiend so it just wouldn't make sense for him to be Valvran's other half. He'd atleast have to be the host of the demon he's split from.

Flufflez

The way I see it is that Simon could level up by doing Overlord stuff like ruling and deceiving. He can also defeat defeatable foes. Then, he can start 1v1ing Abraxas-boosted Zodiac Fiends once he's strong enough. You are correct that, now, he probably couldn't 1v1 Zodiacs when the comet shines in their constellation. My point is that with xp requirements growing exponentially, Simon's gotta grind carefully. Ending up in a situation where there isn't enough xp in the world to level up would be bad. Though, perhaps he could go to other planets or planes. Other people have also suggested simply waiting a couple centuries until new enemies are around. Some social engineering could also support the development of new Eidolans and Simon can experiment across the reigns. Whatever the case, Simon is a growing Overlord and he needs to think about his leveling nutrition!

Randoudo

A link maybe, the other half? it would make no sense or Louis would have not opposed Helel.

Antony444

Gonna say, Alcyone has her priorities in order. Next chapter: Alcyone and SImon: Tomb Raiders!

Dazerg

Besties all the way!

Black Rose

He needs to ask chrom where the djinn is

Ikra

Well Overlord class is evil, even towards its user

Nightmare Lore

I wouldn't be happy about it either. My stat plan with 9 of the other Noble Crestones requires him to be level 100 in the Overlord. And to repeat that feat 9 more times.

Nightmare Lore

Immunity to Bleed, Blind, and Slow. He already had immunity to Silence and Stasis, as well as resistance to Blind. 4 out of 24 of Simon's Titles are rendered redundant in this case. Poison and Blind resistance and Stasis and Silence immunity.

SkullduggeryJ

Not sure if anyone else has already said this but I’m guessing that Belzemine is the Manna Goddesses’ reincarnation just like Anna is the prophet’s. With the fact that she might be dead being brought up and the comparisons between the two’s holy auras with Belzemines being much stronger.

Dazerg

Louis was clear he killed Verney. It always baffled me how he could miss Verney having a zodiac crystal and then merging with it before dying. My guess is that Verney was split by Valravn before he fought Louis, one of his half was left near Valravn and fused with him upon dying. Simon and party have received only half exp for killing only half of Verney, while the other half was long ago received by Louis

Josiah

Lol Simon getting another immunity to silence is gonna piss off that one commenter so much

Josiah

I hope he gets a title that makes him immune to bleed that would be so funny

Nightmare Lore

Title's probably don't work that way. If you died to something you don't have immunity or resistance to, it'll fix that. But if you're already immune to it then it didn't play a part in your death, ergo it'll give you something else. Or rather, the title the Overlords give has a different effect.

Alibhai

The three references I can think of start with the fact that Simon commented multiple times that they feel similar specifically in their aura, vibe, and fighting style. Next is the clue that Louis was the last person to see the original Thomas Verney. Louis knew how to contact Verney at the drop of a hat, and they had enough of a mutual understanding that Verney agreed to help pretty easily. ​Granted, we don't know how he did it, but the fact that it was so quick is still suspect. And just to be clear, I don't think that Louis is a fake or anything. I think he consumed or controls the other half of Verney. Verney's comment on how there is only bitterness left in him mirrors Silk's dialogue, and it all but confirms the existence of a clone. So what I am proposing is that the clone is with Louis.

Nightmare Lore

My thoughts on Simon using the Noble Crestones would technically work by eventual avalanche. Say he fights each of the Zodiac Fiends during the Parade and gets to Overlord Lv 100. The next time he fights them with a Noble Crestone to level it, say that manages to kill his way to 100 in it; he has both the stats of his Overlord and the 50% from whatever Noble he used. Then he does it again and again, each time becomes easier due to the increase in Stats. He's tougher, finally a lot more faster, his spells cost far less and is lucker (which I believe affects Accuracy and Evasion). But that requires the ability to even survive speed running this plan, which leads back to leveling the Overlord. Which would be easier if he had more stats. An annoying predicament.

Diego H.T.

Hermano, que buen capitulo, enserio espero que el demonio se haya separado, sería un buen enemigo para este reino tener a este tipo detrás

Nightmare Lore

Or the Overlord's themselves, they're the ones voting then. Maybe a Title's name would be the same but the effects different if you already have immunity to what it's trying to give you.

Noxx

I also have this train of thought Nightmare, but more along the lines of when it starts becoming too hard to level up without going on a Bloodlust-Reign, it would be better to focus on levelling up one Noble Class each as much as possible in each individual Reign focusing on trying to level up, to squeeze as much stats as possible out of them, since it'd be too hard/run into the same issue of high level caps as Overlord. In a roundabout way, it's sacrificing side classes so Simon gets extra free stats so he can use them to level up Overlord faster since it's the main class, and the one that will matter in the long run.

granndfunk

friends with benefits

Rodmin

That's a very good guess!

asa..lollipop

Spoiler much? I was planning on reading it soon

awreeohs

it almost felt specifically for him after last chapter 😭

awreeohs

The key theme of titles here has never truly been about empowering or helping Simon though, more so for the dead overlords to troll him and the Crimson Throne to protect itself. Leveling up and receiving immunities to things he already did 40+ levels ago is the kind of long-term fuck-you those ghosts specialize in.

The lord of cats

On reign 100 simon will exit the time loop and defeat red robe

Mark Roudabush

Shouldn't double immunity flip over to absorption?

Expital

Lv 50 paladin vs Lv 50 overload. Which is stronger? Seems to be paladin because I doubt lv 50 Simon would have lasted this long in front of Valravn duplicate as much Alphonse did... Though i am not sure but valravn/verny are able to match Louis to some extent and the way Louis has come and one shot Simon a few times in arc ends makes you wonder if overload is not that strong as everyone believes.

Randoudo

Let's compare: Level 57 Simon dealt with the Cobweb in Overlord of crime, yes he didn't fight him as much but he destroyed his attic while Valravn was backed by the rogue(and his zodiac fiend). Alphonse is pretty much at the same level here but was backed with Simon(71) and volto + Valravn was without minion. Here Alphonse would have died, with a crippling injury and no escape (can't break the attic).

Randoudo

And i feel like i'm becoming Louis defender 😂 but he is still much stronger than Simon right now (let's not talk about genocide Louis) and from the fight it seems Simon is pretty close to 1vs1 Valravn now.

Nightmare Lore

Noxx: technically would and wouldn't work. The way the Overlord handles Exp from the Reigns is that whatever they kill once doesn't grant exp again, with one exception being the Paladin, due to the Herobane title. This includes any exp split with others, so any experience gained from fighting together is diminished. Same with Simon using two classes. If he kills something he's not killed with both the Overlord and the Warrior, the Warrior will eat up part of the exp that the Overlord could have had. However the opposite is also true. Should he kill the same thing the next Reign (and say he never used the Warrior, since he can only level them up once before causality issues) the Warrior would gain full exp while the Overlord would have nothing. That's why I want the Overlord at 100 before Simon start grinding out the Noble Crestones. It's just more effective. I wouldn't argue with him using any Paladin or Berserker vassals, but otherwise it'd be a waste of potential. Vassals give 20% in comparison to their Noble's 50%.

Zenmeerkat

I am looking forward to the questioning of Frea, getting the Vibe that the Elves are just straight bad guys all around

JJ

Is not really much of a spoiler… time loop mechanics.

Sam

Come on, Simon. Consume the crystal before something else stops you and you lose the opportunity

Roden

He can’t. He has to beat a Zodiac Fiend under their sign when they’re at their strongest to devour their creststone

Expital

Yeah, that's why it's slightly tough to compare because we never had a lv50 Simon vs lv 70ish someone else .. (what is valravn's level though...? I think i missed..) Though that fight with monk students did show that he had a slight tough fight with multiple similar level opponents then, but I think he might have been holding back then (don't remember now) With Louis, it was more about that, that after defeating nodens (Lv 66 simon), Louis defeated Simon too easily. Which should definitely not happen, unless Louis is in a very very different league . Though the mana sword might have been one of the reasons Simon getting easily defeated by Louis every time. Without the sword, maybe Simon could have lasted a lot more time against Louis.

Windjigo

While he was able to match Louis somewhat, the fact he has a vassal creststone means that, despite their similar level, he only half as much perk and worse stats across the board. It's not really a fair comparison.

Juice

I think Simon already settled the debate by beating Alphonse twice before. He also gets dispatched pretty quickly once Volto and Simon are preoccupied, I don’t think anything he shows here is all that impressive. Now Louis vs Verney? I gotta go Louis, we haven’t even seen him fight all out other than against Helel and she had hacks on so I don’t count that. I don’t think it’d be low diff but I doubt it’s higher than mid

Randoudo

And you forget that's Louis i like to call "genocide route", he killed Euphemia and gained a lot of level with his wars in Valne (the mana sword don't help true but he is at a much higher level at that moment). He isn't at all the Louis who fought Verney at the time or even the Louis who fought Helel, he was much stronger (one of his best empowered move is his giant sword).

BramBora

Bias detected

Zenmeerkat

Patterns ≠ bias automatically

Wilson Olmedo

Did you see the last Mother of Learning AU chapter?

Dazerg

I think sketchy would be a better word. Anyway! It’s likely that Belzemine is related to anything that’s going on with Mana Goddess. Frea questioning promises to be very interesting

The lord of cats

All stuff you know from reading the premiese its no spoiler

Doofenshmirtz

I mean that's kind of the problem with the titles right? Spend a reign dying to poison and you probably get poison immunity. Any reign with a bit of overlap with future level buffs will probably become less useful.

Doofenshmirtz

I mean they said Louis killed the real Count Verney already. Could just be Valvarn split them in two and the other half of the exp already got taken by Louis years ago.

Nightmare Lore

It also implies that the Overlords don't have as much control over either the Reigns or Titles as we thought they did.

Diego Urbina

Bro, I think there have been a total of like 5 max level people. Elios/Oracle/Mana Goddess

Expital

Ahh.. fair. I completely forgot about Simon vs Alphonse and Louis's level increase in genocide route.

Nightmare Lore

Technically the Paladin has an advantage due to both having super effective damage against the Overlord as well as Prayers. The Overlord has the Reigns. You decide.

Nightmare Lore

I don't think she counts as having a class so much as a estimated threat level. She counts as a level 100 creature naturally.

Nightmare Lore

Doubtful. But apparently there are monsters out there that can bypass an immunity. Perhaps they will find Simon harder to Silence then they otherwise would. Or even if they penetrate past his poison immunity the damage is still halved due to his resistance.