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Predicting even more of 2026 | Lemonade Stand - Ep. 38 Premium [VIDEO] (Patreon)

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2026-01-09 18:35:02
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Recorded on: January 6th, 2026

Intro

Where is the line with dropshipping?

Vibe coding is actually good now

Epstein Fallout

Midterms....A Third Term?

Mamdani's First Year

Trump's Cabinet

Fan Duel and Draft Kings aren't profitable

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dinlaslamark

had some delicious quaker oats honey nut cereal with 2% milk to this. thank you boys

Scumlord Studio

Man I almost did this exact thing last year but I started to feel scummy, ironic given this dumb name I gave myself 15 years ago, and chose to not do it

Scumlord Studio

Man I could have been rich lmao. Like literally this is exactly what I was gonna do I got all the way to making a website with AI slop lmao

Queleb

10:57 Ludwig also wasn't claiming he made the bidet's himself. I don't think anyone thought that Lud had started a manufacturing company and was producing the bidets himself. I think the big issue (and the conclusion that you all seemed to come to) is that he's lying, making up fake reviews, and (seemingly) promoting the product as his own. White/Private labeling, and even drop shipping can be done in ways that aren't fraudulent. I just feel like this particular person is doing it the fraudulent way.

Queleb

I'm glad you didn't. As they mentioned, this is not a happy person. I don't think 99% of people can actively scam and steal and not have it weigh on their conscience. There is always more money to be made. There is no way to reverse your previous actions or un-hurt people. I hope you go on to make lots of (legit) money. o7

Queleb

I should've kept watching you guys say this exact same thing right after that moment. oop.

Scumlord Studio

100% I agree, me too :) it was interesting to learn how it all worked though and as a side effect I know how Shopify works for legit applications now haha so that's a win

IDK

The vibe coding thing is really cool. Google AI studio already lets you make apps and deploy them as a site and everything for free (you need to add money to your API key and if other people use the app that API key is charged when AI calls are made) and I was able to make a specific kind of tier list app for a game I like and just share the link with friends, also since the site uses no ai I don't need to worry about being charged. I will say in the future I think the biggest hurdle will be understanding object oriented programming practices, those fundamentals don't suddenly disappear if you want a quality preformant app

exgota

2:14 holy shit i do this lol but for men’s facial products. clavicular has been a BLESSING for my ROAS

Umbra Night

“whatever someone is willing to pay” is bullshit and part of why prices are so out of control post pandemic. Its taking advantage of peoples need or ignorance and overpricing it in a way that is not supported by the economy. Its absolutely something that should be audited for.

ikioi no Rafa

Isn't that the dude that potentially killed someone with his car?

Guy Fernando

Atrioc himself is outspoken about how dystopian algorithmic / dynamic pricing —getting people to pay the maximum that they’re willing to pay for a product— for things like Ubers or flights, so I don’t even think he fully agrees with this idea

synth.wav

Why did doug cut his hair? Did he hit a charity milestone?

ChromaLock

what happens when people only vibe-code things and theres nothing real for ai to train off of?

Evan Frejoles

I predict that the San Antonio Spurs will make the NBA finals and lose. I think they will beat OKC, but crumble under the pressure to a more veteran roster, such as Boston (with JT back) or maybe the Knicks.

Real Lightfield

The guy might get sued if he reveals information gicen in confidence maybe? Plus depending on jurisdiction if you acquire information illegaly it cant be used as evidence. Just some guesses from me

Coffinbeans (edited)

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2026-09-07 01:00 Vibe coding honestly just seems awful as a whole. I think theres merit to accessibility to something, but it reaches a certain threshold where opportunity turns to mediocrity. When theres a low barrier of entry it becomes so much harder to stand out and the odds of finding any actual financial success diminish further and further. It just sounds like another barrier in being able to find any kind of prosperity for my generation. My brother spent years building these difficult skills in making games and has a ton of talent but now hes just become so demoralized because the value of those skills he built over a decade are now far less valuable. I think ironically this exact thing was a big source for dougdoug ending his channel. The barrier to entry for content creation became nonexistent so now it can be easily exploited by youtube making it harder and harder to find success.
2026-01-09 20:47

Rachel Cunningham

Jan 7 shooting proves Lemonade Stand effect is still powerful : (

Preston Marusyk

The bit has to stop at some point😭 lemonade stand soyjack after every bad event past Wednesday is not good lmao

Nikolai

As someone with 10 years of full stack programming experience and spent the time to understand as much as I could about everything in regards to cloud and on-prem hosting, databases, apis, frameworks, UX design, best practices, security, etc. etc. I cry from the lack of effort and appreciation vibe coders have for the applications "they built" as they show me what they built in an afternoon. I sit here constantly searching for work wondering wtf I did wrong in my life to have spent so much dedication and time suddenly be so worthless to so many people.

Julio Cubillas Flores

I think Atrioc has mentioned multiple time over that capitalism at its best state (as how it should be) is when you have the ability to walk away. That you are free to go get a better deal. In this case overcharging is not a problem as long you have that ability (unlike in housing or health care) and they are not in a monopolistic industry. He did mention he was against algorithmic pricing, but that's a different discussion.

Umbra Night

i agree on that, but we are long past that point. Advertising and lying go hand in hand now. Artful deception is an essential part pf sales and Im sure Atrioc is aware of this as a marketing guy. At the end of the day we have to adjust for human greed or capitalism collapses like any other economic world view

Brayden Allen

Generally conservative myself and my parents more so. Specifically on the point of trump promising to not start more wars, they don’t view Iran or Venezuela as wars (which they are technically not since there was no declaration from Congress and the executive can act for 90 days without one). They have cooled a lot on Israel over the last few years, but still supported Iran strikes bc Israel is still our main ally in the region. That and Iran is a huge adversary. With Venezuela, they see it as purely positive. Maduro is a war criminal and was disposed, no American casualties, and they even like that the operation cost us nothing bc of the oil companies/ seized oil. They see trumps actions as effective foreign policy to further American aims. That he got what he wanted without dragging us into a prolonged war. Their main concern is a repeat of the decades long war on terror, but are supportive of short and effective operations. As long as we’re in and out, they love it, and so far we have been.

Xavier Hernandez

I wanted to say something about how avatar makes money. My 75-year-old Uncle absolutely loves them, in his mind he doesn’t understand how this is possibly real. He is always blown away. He has seen fire and ash four times.

Malcolm Delgado Monay

Couple of points. Vibe coding should be rebranded as Slop Code; Atrioc should make his slop coded calendar available to the public, I feel that it would be a great tool to increment my scroll rate per hour on Instagram Reels over a reasonable amount of time. Also, you guys have been quite outspoken about gambling addiction and insider trading regarding sports betting and prediction markets, but given the current Fan Duel and Draft kings situation I think you fail to take into account the great suffering of the investors and share holders of these type of companies :)

ゴミの河童

"Their main concern is a repeat of the decades long war on terror, but are supportive of short and effective operations. As long as we’re in and out, they love it, and so far we have been." This is interesting. To my understanding, post-Bush, the DoD generally operated very similarly under both Democrat and Republican presidents (though Obama, after being branded "the drone strike president," saw a significant increase in oversight during the latter half of his presidency— unfortunately when Trump undid these regulations, we lost the ability to properly track metrics). Their M.O. was these quick, strategic in-and-out operations. Until Russia invaded Ukraine, I figured that was just the state of modern warfare and we'd been grandfathered into war in the middle east. Were there legitimate concerns that an actual invasion (e.g. troops stationed in enemy territory) would happen under either presidential candidate? Also, I like the use of the phrase "effective foreign policy" to describe military action, as Clausewitz is famous for describing war as "the continuation of politics by other means."

ゴミの河童

I feel we as a people really, really need to figure out how to handle job displacement. It's not a remotely new issue, but the economy is currently propped up on the PROMISE of job displacement and the only things being said about this seem to be Elon Musk's hand-waving "no one will need money" and occasional comments about a UBI no US politician has campaigned on in the past decade.

Paweł Bliźniak

My issue with the "vibe coding will let people be entrepreneurs" narrative is the question: what stops other people from vibe coding a copy of your app? Even if you have a successful idea it's going to get buried under a pile of clones made by randos. If we take this thinking even further the same is true of your potential clients. Why pay you if they can vibe code a copy of your app for personal use? The only people that will make money on this are the corpos selling the shovels.

Andrew Chen

As someone is working in Software the main problem is that while LLMs are great at adding to code and extending they often don’t look back and rework or remove older code. Or they struggle to make use of existing architectures (rarely but can be seriously annoying). Also the amount that can be vibed in a short amount of time sometimes makes it hard to pin down precisely what is being done. I’m working on a specific feature that integrates LLMs with writing code and I wish it worked perfectly.

Alberto Rolandi

Omg, i was that Minecraft server hosting guy of the friends group. That's also was got me interested into coding But i was very happy when then it was made easy and seamless later on.

Jack

"There's millions of dollars on this" Doug is looking at trading volumes and mistaking it for actual capital being bet. The actual bets are significantly lower

Milo_v2B

The vibe coding stuff hurts me really badly. I've got over 10 years of experience but feel helpless since I'm not really a full stack developer. I built full apps/sites using BaaS stuff like Firebase, so I don't really consider myself experienced with backend and am mostly a front end guy. I've recently had to start looking for a new job and it just feels like my skills are worthless to people and I should switch industries. I want to stay in tech, but it feels too late to learn the things I'm missing for development and too late to start learning AI development. Honestly I'm not sure what to do.

Brayden Allen

There was certainly fear mongering about how any conflict could start WW3. I guess this is true but, besides the war in Ukraine being the one potential exception, I would say it is unlikely that WW3 would start based on recent military opperations, tho hindsight makes this a lot easier to say. Based on conversations I've had, especially with my friends in the military, the only real likelihood of a larger scale war would be with China over Taiwan. Countries like Venezuela or Iran simply lack the means to defend themselves from American aggression long enough for other powers to get involved. I know the right was worried about Kamala being too weak to handle aggression from our adversaries (same argument about how a weak Biden let the war in Ukraine start), which could lead to more war abroad that the US might be dragged into. The left was worried about Trump's aggression sparking larger conflicts as the war escalates. I could not say how legitimate these concerns were or if they were more talking points, but this is the discourse I remember leading up to the election. Drone strikes were consistent between administrations, but I would say there is a difference between containing bombing to the war on terror and expanding them to places like Venezuela. However, at least among the right, I would say the word "war" more refers to a prolonged conflict with long term occupation rather than simply acts of aggression against another country. I would call my parents anti-war under the definition I gave above, but they are supportive of these in and out opperations. They would say that so far Trump has mostly kept his promise to keep us out of more wars because all the potential wars ended before they could really start, which they view as effective foreign policy

RetroFlame

“We Live in Loony Tunes if it Had Pedophiles” -Aiden Calvin, 2026

Pinwin

Record on Wednesday, major news happens on thursday.... Record on Tuesday major news happens on Wednesday.

Make3333

Work on becoming very very good at one thing instead of a generalist. AI sucks at being a real expert with depth etc. As a senior+ eng., I can tell you that even Claude Opus 4.5 can do kind of ok at everything as long as it's not complicated, but it's like good junior level. Obviously you have to pick that thing very well, and we can't know it'll stay that way.

Stehlampe

The thing with the Vibe Coding Start Ups is getting a lot of evaluation. If someone without coding knowledge could do this with AI in a couple of hours, the wall for competition to come in and steal it is practically nonexistent. How can anything be of higher value if practically anyone can just copy it even quicker than it was originally made (since you now know exactly what you want) and replicate it at no cost or with the requirement of knowledge or skill? The app or thing made can be useful, yes, but from an economic standpoint, if something doesn't cost anything to make and requires no higher skill, and everyone can do it, it's not only without cost, but without value (in monetary terms). Would love to hear what you think about this. <3

Conner Paul

The frustrating part of the Trump admin is how sloppy they do everything. Releasing the Epstein files "redacted" and having everyone able to edit the files to see what wanted to hide is just so lazy.

Nate

Example for the vibe coding thing: I setup a Linux home server this year as a NAS and Media Server prettymuch using AI Chatbots to help me with every step of the process. It works and now I'm learning more advanced functionality for it. Would have been way harder without it. Now it's a new hobby of mine and I can keep building on it. Really cool.

Jared Perttunen

On the topic on the impact individual mayors can have on their cities I would recommend looking at Mayor Mike Duggan of Detroit. He is currently running as an independent for Governor of Michigan and has a real chance of winning due to his great track record in revitalizing Detroit.

DjHalk45

Link your accounts

DjHalk45

Sports betting apps losing money was very surprising.

Evan Dybvig

One thing that I have encountered with vibe coding is a wall when it comes to smaller/more specialized applications. I work within an enterprise software that uses a custom language somewhat similar to JavaScript and AI continues to make trivial mistakes and attempts to gaslight me when debugging. This is likely due to lack of data (e.g. stack overflow answers) for the specific language

ma ka

it almost like Trump started the whole venuelza thing and greenland thing to distract from the whole epstein situation. as you guys said. people talked about it a lot less since

Ruben

I don't think insider trading on prediction markets is the part that's worth being worried about. It's so transparent whether a prediction can be easily affected by someone influencing it. If you are worried that someone is going to influence your prediction, and that it is unfair, then don't bet. I think it's much more concerning that there is a rise in gambling as a whole, not that it is unfair. Most other ways of gambling are just as unfair anyways.

SxK

Learning AI development will be 10x easier than the stuff you already learnt, since it seems to boil down to "use this or that tool", you just have to cut through the noise to find out what those tools are. I'll wager (ultimately i don't know) that you can learn everything about prompt "engineering" in an afternoon. The whole topic is also so filled with hype and fearmongering ("SE is over, you are behind if you dont use this tool!!?!!??"), i do think its a useful technology but the person who says he's 10x more productive probably just wants to feel that he is, regardless of if he really is

SxK

Yeah, its the same problem for all AI output (images, music, etc.), even in the best case (for AI) where the output is perfect there will be such an oversaturation that AI output as a whole will be as worthless as a pile of dirt, less than that since it takes resources to generate stuff

SxK

Be careful with platforms that do everything for you, because if they want to they will jack up prices in the long run (or do other shady stuff like stealing your costumer data) which could be really difficult to get out of if you don't know anything. Not a problem for your small toy project but something to keep in mind

Chef_Moquin

What Swipe and Ludwig did is a very common practice called Private Labeling. My company does the same thing where we are buying an existing product and putting our name on it and selling it as ours. It's all legal and under contract with the supplier. We are in different markets so we are selling to a customer base that the supplier wouldn't have access to other wise.

itreatthepluglikehulkhoganandjuststraightuplietoem

The whole “vibe coding will let people be entrepreneurs thing” falls about for me when the segment is preceded by an league player committing fraud. It’s less likely it’s going to be used by people to make a valuable product and more likely it will be used to scam people.

Growing Carrot

BRO the "are you a pedo if you just traffic the kids". . . He is drop a shipping entrepreneur!!!

Edgar Antunes

I'm not acive on social media so I might have missed something, but is there a reason there's no patreon special this week?

Emmanuel Alagbala

Please report the fake dropshipping guy. This is a scam on at least 2 legal levels

Gabriel Stringam

Maybe the dude who plays league and does drop shipping is jus mad at the boomers like Doug so that’s why he scams them