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Recorded on: March 3rd, 2026

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2:40 - What’s going on in the gaming industry?

9:20 - Riot and Blizzard

20:04 - Things are getting propped up

28:05 - We are not experts

41:15 - SpaceX stories

54:04 - Blackjack story

1:01:15 - House Theory

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Chance Roberson

Honestly, they could actually get Obama on the pod

mrq02

They mention "passionate disagreements in the comments" in this video. I wonder (genuinely) how much of that actually comes down to how text is often read in the worst light. Surely some of it is actually awful; that's just statistics. But I know from previous experience that when people think they and I are having some huge kind of argument through text, I'm really just over here playing my video game listening to k-pop, alt+tabbing to be like "that number is incorrect" and going back to dragging my team down to defeat through my ineptitude. My goal is to bring us both to a greater understanding though conversation and the merging of our knowledge (essentially, I'm stating it for the record), but I convey that poorly and the person on the other end seems to think that I'm trying to insult them, like I'm implying that their research was pointless and that they are stupid because they got one statistic wrong.🤔

mrq02

Also, I like the description of "chatting with your friend who is a little more informed". That's exactly how I view the podcast. I don't expect you guys to be experts on everything; I like the podcast because I expect you to know more than me on topics that I am not an expert on. It's more convenient to hear you guys summarize the topic than it is for me to go do my own research on every single thing. I just don't have that kind of time. 🤣

Nikolai

In regards to the lemonade stand not being experts on topics, I think as long as there is decent amount of research is done to help us the viewers better understand the topic, it accomplishes the goal of the show. From what you guys cover usually is enough for the viewers to ask follow up questions online and do more research on our part if we do have the desire, which is great.

Maxwell Dimensio

All those college educated people claiming they know things are giving people like me, the college dropout self taught tech innovator, a bad name. Tough branding out here.

pnott

Similar thing for me, I'm a college student but I am like actually an expert on all these things. I'm just built different. The other college students claiming to be experts are making it hard for me.

Tynan Gacy

Aidens last point on expertise is insanely spot on. I am a grad student in the biological sciences and let me tell you: the only thing experts like doing more than "correcting" amateurs is "correcting" fellow experts. You do owe the audience a reasonable level of investigation into a topic, but fully satisfying every potential gotcha is impossible.

JZ

I just think you guys are too nice. If it is me I won't address some of the issues at all, seems like a non-issue to me lol.

M C

I just want to say that I’m really proud of you guys. In the last year, you have all really grown in how you communicate and present topics. And it’s just been such an honor to be a part of it. Especially DougDoug, the man who got me here. I know I was one of those critics pretty early on and just seeing that growth and self-reflection has been really beautiful.

Lightknight

When are we getting gerald ford on the pod?

Seppy

Concord actually had a way higher budget than 100M. If you include the to price to aquire the studio estimates are that it cost Sony about 400M. Its the worst flop in the history of media

popcornspoon

I’m a little conflicted on Aiden’s point about expertise, I more or less tune into the show because I happen to like you guys and your content. For you to have to prepare a speech + PowerPoint for every single topic you discuss would be pretty outrageous. Listening to an authentic take that isn’t the most informed is fine too, it’s pretty human in my opinion. I appreciate I get the best of both worlds is all I’m trying to say

Jordyn

yall have done a great job!! ive recently made it a goal to be more aware of current events/tech/politics/economics/business and this show has been like the best place to get those things in one go. kinda glazing here but this is my first (and only) patreon sub and i’ve watched every episode of this show (and big a clips) since i discovered yall!

Jordyn

also coming from the pov of a safety engineer for the beautiful US government, lots of stuff yall talk about i hear from you guys first before my own job tells us lol

Maxwell Dimensio

See I can't know if you're legit or another FRAUD that ruins MY good name.

Kerrin Grosvenor

“I want to make a show that I would want to watch” - love this philosophy, thank you, it comes through

Kerrin Grosvenor

+1 to this, and also that following the process of watching you guys learn and your opinions and world views shift is one of the biggest values of the conversations for me. That isn’t possible if you have a requirement to be correct all the time. It’s the vulnerability to share what you don’t know and your changing perspectives that helps us as listeners on our own intellectual journey

Maxwell Dimensio

I want to add to the rest of the discussion. Ive always valued you guys, even when details or theory are wrong. Your honest perspectives and genuine effort have led to me learning so much about the world. Disagreement is good, because we can all learn why and refine our understanding! P.S. ive been a fan of doug and atriocfrom the beginning and enjoyed their prescence, and Ive grown to love and value aiden as well. Im glad you guys get so much from it, here's to not being kidnapped by Xi Xinping!

itreatthepluglikehulkhoganandjuststraightuplietoem

Try a hero-shooter and fail to establish yourself as unique? You’re studio gets shut down. Take an established brand like, i don’t know, BATTLEFIELD, and make the highest selling game of the year? Believe it or not, your studio also gets shut down. These businessmen ARE kinda ruining the art form.

gurbans

You guys are clones of me sent out into the world to research things that I’m interested in but don’t have time to explore. And you do it with open minds and discuss in good faith. For that, I am grateful.

Marc

You guys are communicators, not scientists. Someone has to make this stuff palatable for people like me. And I genuinely believe you guys are uniquely good at doing so. I mean there's a reason teachers don't just go "don't print money, trust me I know better than you kids" and then move on to the next topic.

Blubmin

Just FYI, it was Joseph Schumpeter who coined and pushed the idea of Creative Destruction, not Smith. I suspect Big A is referring more to Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy rather than the Wealth of Nations.

Dragau4

So apparently the RIot Mmo is releasing literally this August, according to Phreak

Finn

As much as I like you guys, I can’t help but feel the pure cognitive dissonance that drips from each of you. Former tech bros turned YouTube/Twitch personality. Do any of you have any idea what 10% of your yearly income would do to change my life? But yeah, tell me how to feel about geopolitics. This isn’t coming out of nowhere. Over the last few episodes I’ve seen you guys do nothing but glaze your guests and chuckle at the atrocities being committed overseas. Thanks to the tax payers dollar. Revoking my membership.

Leamon Shleamon

hey they aren't being paid by the government

MaiL6

4:35 😈

Appollochan

I feel like a podcast like this for me is an entertaining way to get broad exposure to current topics rather than in depth expertise. Dare I say, kind of like the news. I tend to seek out experts to listen to if I want to know more.

jense

march 3rd might as well watch inauguration of G.F. about as up to date too

SaacAttaac

I disagreed with yall on a lot of things, but I’ve also seen you guys change or adjust your opinions as you get new info or perspectives. That’s as much as I feel reasonable to ask. It’s definitely turtles all the way down no matter the topic

jense

peopel calling themself experts should always make you sceptical

SaacAttaac

For SpaceX, the guy’s description sounds kind of contradictory? Failure is acceptable but it’s super competitive and cutthroat? Maybe that’s the super koolaid he mentioned but I don’t see how that works

Tempest Liu

10:45 I agree with Doug. My friend is working in a Chinese company with the opposite practice. The company develops game purely based on the passion of the team and hardly any of those sell. So they have to layoff, or work overtime even in Chinese standard. The few games make money for the company are the soulless gacha games.

Karan Patel

There is only one expert on all topics, and thats Gerald Ford

Caleb Haaga

You guys always talk about the economy being bad which is reasonable. Could one of you do a presentation on what we should do with this information in our personal financial lives?

ihatepopeyeschicken

You guys got this all wrong. When is Gerald Ford coming on the pod?

Drew Arnason

Hey I would love to see in the future an episode to follow up on stories you guys covered awhile ago. Like a follow up on the war in Sudan or the soy bean farmers or the ketamine stuff Doug talked about lmao

DougDoug

it's funny too since I just started Baldur's Gate 3 for the first time in the last 2 weeks....and holy shit this game fucking ROCKS, i love it, I'm literally dreaming about it every night. Which makes my successful ragebait even funnier

Kvass

College students in particular are often experts in being Dunning-Kruger effect examples

Allan

I feel like the We are not experts segment would've fit better in a regular episode. This felt like a message meant for the whole Lemonade Stand viewership but only a small handful got to hear

Cameron Hancock

Since we're talking about videogames every episode now, what about reading Play Nice for the book club? inside story of Blizzard leading up to the Activision takeover

Eddie H.

So basically Elon was always this crazy, we just didn't get to hear about it as much, which allowed him to continue selling his lucky bets as 'smart investments'. The 'Just Send It' story reveals that SpaceX success is just as much luck as anything else. 0.0000000% chance it has enough capitol to bailout Twitter if they were responsible for Challenger 2.0.

Green0Photon

Me, a socialist and AI Hater: Oh no, they don't follow my beliefs exactly! I wish they were more correct. Big A: Trump bad. I wish the Democrats were doing more. The rich need to be taxed more in order to fix the deficit. I just think that the proposals to do wealth tax in the US aren't very well thought out, and they've had problems elsewhere. Doug: AI is super useful but I recognize that the big AI companies cause serious problems. Aiden: I like Sweden. Me: I guess their politics aren't so different from me after all. Also me: Grrrrr I hate AI and billionaires shouldn't exist grrrrr.

Green0Photon

Maybe it can be a clip added to the main channel?

Jon Moody

When I listen to TLS I always go into as I’m listening to hear an introduction of various topics that I may not be aware of which gives me the opportunity to do my own deeper research on the topics that stick out. Obviously these guys aren’t going to be right 1000% of the time, that’s just basic media literacy.

johnny

The hell was that jumpcut to the blackjack story? It cut off atrioc mid sentence then the topic of elon is totally dropped and their talking about a gambling story.

Jon Moody

To be fair to the TLS crew it’s way more than an introduction to these topics haha

Mikey Storied

I don't think they can do that legally

Lardex Buffets

As a college student, you guys are waaay outta your league talking about how high horsed college kids are. I mean come on, you can't just watch a CNN evening broadcast and call yourself an "expert" and call me dumb after I dedicate my life to studying. I really feel disillusioned when I realized just how wrong (and potentially European) the points you make on this show are. But okay, keep shilling out to the establishment dems + platformings your wannabe swede. Cancelling my patreon over this btw.

Zach Lafleche

Who knows if this is satire or not, some people are nuts

Cade

As someone who works at spacex we dont care if you make a mistake or fail, just that you don’t fail or make the same mistake twice. It can make it difficult when still learning everything but that is part of the culture when you get hired and you know what you are getting into during your interviews. It definitely can seem a little contradictory if you don’t know the culture super well

Alan Liang

Saying cancelling my patreon over this is genuinely such a soy boy comment. Probably coulda gotten your point across a whole lot better and I’d expect it from someone who “dedicated my life to studying”

Claiming Light

There are dive bars and raver bars and places like that where someone can go wild. But those places aren't my scene. They're loud, chaotic and overwhelming. They lean into hot emotions, fights, and uncomfortable levels of disorder. In my mind, Lemonade Stand is the sort of bar or coffee shop I like. A place for smart people to hold court. That can mean deep dives and it can mean crude jokes. It's meant to be higher brow without being snooty. At it's platonic ideal, that sort of vibe is meant to be a speakeasy for graceful thinking.

Claiming Light

I so want this to be real, but I don't buy it.

Emmanuel Alagbala

As an uneducated backseat expert its disgusting hearing you guys talk about my life, reality abd experiences. MY CULTURE IS NOT YOUR COSTUME!!

Emmanuel Alagbala

Can you get me on the pod? I'm just a guy who gets all his opinions from this pod so I'll actually have nothing to offer. But im british i guess

Ztrawby

My patreon glitched and took forever to fix so for like 3 minutes it was just Doug talking about how the Space X team tries to get Elon off.

Alan Liang

Well played gang 🙏

Michael Knight

This is total speculation, and obviously he had some level of what he is showing us these days back then, but I also think in the times relative to the story Doug was telling, Elon was not super ultra mega wealthy like he is today. Obviously he was super wealthy, but I bet anything that once he had broad success with Tesla and SpaceX and became more and more wealthy, became more of a public figure, he inflated his ego more. He also probably got more close with politicians, other billionaires, lobbyists, etc. that warped his mind more and probably made him get an even more inflated ego. And that’s ultimately what we see today and why he seems to have gone off the deep end.

Chad

I don't think it was the wealth so much as the fame. He became addicted to the attention and started chasing it at any cost.

Michael Knight

Yeah, I would ultimately agree. I guess I was trying to say that largely his fame came with increasing money as it got him into more circles with more fame or control of fame. But yeah, it all goes back to money ultimately, it controls the world.

Umbra Night

Eh I wouldnt worry about it too much I disagree with at least 2 things you guys say every week if people are here just to eat up your opinions theyve lost the sauce already. Its like having a political conversation with someone who “always votes blue/red”

Dragau4

The reason why Arcane is over is because the story is over, they're not going to ever do Arcane 3, it wasn't to jeep pumping seasons of Arcane, the story is evoluing and the story will take place in probably nexus or Ionia, just under a different name (wouldn't make sense to call it Arcane if the Arcane was dealt with already)

William

DOUG PLEASE GET YOUR BROTHER ON

Jenn

as a 3d game artist, working on failed games like concord or highguard doesn't really change much on the practical side of things. the fact that the game failed is separate from the visual beauty of it (most of the time), so we can still show the stuff we worked on for failed games in our portfolio. our artistic work isn't diminished because the game failed, but obviously it sucks to work on something for years and then have it be cancelled or trashed. or even worse like aiden mentioned about riot's undercover game- to work on a game that won't ever be announced nor finished, so you can never show people your work because it's probably nda. it's more of a mental hit than anything else

MochyTushi

The discussion about Riot and Blizard made me think about Ubisoft. I work at the Montreal studio and its been the same story. In the 2010s, Ubi was the place where to work. I remember when I was in university people taliking about how working there was the best place, but then management changed and now its just a husk of what it was, moral is low and creativity is at its lowest its ever been. There's talented people in all these major studios, and they are being crushed by greed and bad management.