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Not Actually Saving Our Bacon | Lemonade Stand - Ep. 59 Premium [VIDEO] (Patreon)

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2026-06-06 22:00:10
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Recorded on: June 2nd, 2026

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0:00 - Intro

1:53 - Blue Dot Fever

10:11 - Shipping Companies' Frustration Grows

23:32 - Board of Peace Update

38:55 - Save Our Bacon Act

53:35 - Issue of State's Rights

59:40 - Outro

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Jeff Jefferson

Wait, Aiden’s last name isn’t Calvin??? I’ve been psyopped!

Aidan

The 4 bookmarked League sites on the work laptop is an interesting statement

Lobo

Great video as always guys

Lemonhead

I love watching Tucker Carlsons best friend on The right wing podcast lemonade stand

Alex Martinez

Lemonade Stand? More like The Yard 2

mrq02

Fun fact for Doug: Government Cheese also used to be stored in salt caverns. We have a lot of salt caverns. And they're a good place to store things. lol

mrq02

Netanyahu isn't trying to do a draft. Rather, orthodox practitioners are not subject to the mandatory military service. Netanyahu is trying to remove that exception. Obviously this has upset the orthodox practitioners who, previously, were a big backer for him and his policies. It will likely break his government coalition.

CutNickel

I’m hope they release merch soon of Lemonade Stand and offer the Atrioc size shirts

Noah Ganter

Just graduated with and ag degree worked at a Missouri sow farm last year farrowing crates are bad but if the crate was no longer implanted wasn’t many of the piglets would die from being squished hitting there bottom line also disease is a huge concern in pork industry which could wipe the whole industry in the United States to even enter the sow barns we would Need to shower and put on new cloths. It’s just a bad situation overall wish we could have better animal welfare practices but pork being a cheaper meat compared to the rising beef prices. Will always create a market.

EthanT

Great pod glizzy glizzy glizzy A) yall should read “How not to feed the world” cause the ag industry is whack man and B) if we’re passing that bill can we please pass a bill to get rid of dry counties, it’s so rude that these pesky local governments can stop me from getting a cold beer regardless of the factory conditions it was raised in

KD

Aiden Netanyahu

Paulie

Go vegetarian 💚

Chad

I got my mom to watch the show she said she had to stop, southern Christian trump voter has never swears She had to stop because "she didn't like how they were mean to the skinny guy"

James f

Aiden carlson

Zack

Aren't we going to have to refill the reserves? What are prices gonna do when we refill them?

Tynan Gacy

If Iran and the US are Ken and Azen, does that make Chudat Israel? I'd pay unthinkable amounts of money to see Netanyahu hit a 'Yayuhzz'

Bryan

Doug did a great job with the save our bacon segment

CObteAs

I dont understand how voters choose to have higher pork prices, this would only be true if you needed 100% consensus. What you are saying is that you are fine with the minority suffering if the majority decides for them.

Sonam

Same my world is rocked

Wix Wix

gas near me has dropped 60 cents in the past 2~ weeks so I thought that there was some level of return to flow

JayRoozy

You have described “democracy”

Arden

There are farrowing setups studied that allow the sows to leave what are basically farrowing crates and interact with other sows and have more space, that don't lead to higher piglet death but they would be very expensive to implement.However at least the Massachusetts bill allows farrowing crates and just bans gestation crates which are the largest problem. The MassachusettsThere are farrowing setups studied that allow the sows to leave what are basically farrowing crates and interact with other sows and have more space, that don't lead to higher piglet death but they would be very expensive to implement. However at least the Massachusetts bill allows farrowing crates and just bans gestation crates which are the largest problem. The Massachusetts bill would also effect chickens and veal calves. It's also not out of this world that farmers would change how they house animals, for example in recent years many dairy farmers have been moving to free stalls from tie stalls because the cows produce more milk when housed in free stalls. These changes do occur over large periods of time, but the Massachusetts law (idk abt the California one I only read the Massachusetts one for a school project) built in a time period for change which gave 6 years from 2016 for the changes to occur, and i believe has since been pushed back further

Arden

I did so much research on this

Alexanderhyperbeam

For Aiden's question at 54:20, I think the answer is yes, this is actually the perfect time to push for something like this. The idea is that the end goal is to actually try to push people away from meat period. The idea of a perfect vegan future doesn't exist but I think it is important and possible for people to move towards a culinary future that treats meat as more of a luxury than necessary part of the diet. For example before I moved out of my parents' house I ate all manners of meat regularly but after living on my own I basically stopped eating beef because I realized how expensive it was. I still like eating beef but it's just not as much of a priority anymore given the price. And I think it is a good time to shift the public perception's of pork in a similar way. If our goal is truly to move to a more moral future, I think we have to start with changing public perception of the necessity of meat. Especially since vegetarian and vegan meals have become more accessible than ever. Rather than turn it into a moral argument with vegans on their high horses giving ethics lectures, we would get much faster results with just conditioning people into treating meat as a more luxury product to dis-incentivize its production.

CObteAs

I know what I described. My issue is, we know oppressing minorities is bad, but when you call it democracy it's suddenly justifiable?

APPLE GUY

I used to be employed by the largest dairy farm in Canada. Three thousand cows, all milked three times a day. I had guilt while working there, I knew the system and conditions were not what the animals truly wanted or needed. Forced impregnating, separation of mother cow and baby calf. They aren’t stuffed together like the boys described that the pigs are. However I’m sure they would still rather live outside than in crap filled barns. Unfortunately the farm got in a huge animal abuse scandal some years before I worked there. The video contained horrible methods of pain infliction towards cows. This was all discovered by an undercover animal rights activist. While I was there nothing like that occurred but workers would still punch and kick cows to make them move. I never physically abused any of the cows but I was still complicit in the whole situation. It seems like farms like this will continue to be demanded, no matter what type of info comes out about them. I doubt the world will go vegan any time soon so I wonder what will happen to businesses like these. Loved this episode!

Jubess

How about a bill against all Omnibus bills ?

JayRoozy

The “minority” of people who want pigs to suffer so we can have slightly cheaper meat?

CObteAs

The "minority" of people who want or need to put their resources to something else then improving living conditions of pigs. They might want to improve living conditions for their close ones and kids first for example. You and me do not have so little resources where the increased cost will significantly lower our life, but there are undeniably people, whose lives will get noticeably worse because of it. Is it justifiable to force a minority that cant afford it to follow the morals of the majority that can afford it? The same argument can be extended to you and Chinese or African kids, some people can afford to avoid products that involve coercion or slavery somewhere along the supply chain, but most of us cant. Should we be banned from buying cheap electronics or clothes?

BobGoblin

Bro I’m a local rural handyman in south GA and I’m spending 150 a week in gas. It’s rough out here.

Benjamin Fields

Most people in Iowa already want major changes in big pork. From what I understand the Pork industry there produces so much nitrogen through the pigs and is leaching into ground water causing much much higher cancer rates there with nobody answering for it.

Kellen

Too many Americans want that to happen so they would never pass it

Kellen

I’m hoping for a lab grown meat future, personally. Factory farming is one of the great moral failings of our time, but I don’t think people are going to stop eating meat. Even I, who understands that vegans/vegetarians are “right”, eat meat every day.

Kellen

I think you’re being a bit extreme here, this isn’t a ban on pork, it’s a ban on some of the most abhorrent animal rights abuses ever, and then market forces would cause prices to rise because of that. No one is banning you from eating your bacon. We *should* use market forces to disincentivize some of the greatest evils mankind has ever invented.

Alex Musselman

I work for Saab if anyone from the pod wants to chat defense

ThomasMand

How do you justify eating meat every day, when the only actionable way of getting change is by voting with your dollar. What good is hoping for lab grown meat when you’re actively fighting it

ThomasMand

If you’re in any way at all concerned for the wellbeing of pigs, which most people are if they were witness to what happens to them, just stop eating meat. Genuinely, it takes like a month to get used to and then you’re fine. I do not understand how you can judge yourself to be a moral human being but eat meat You’re acting as if you find it sad that dogs are getting kicked, and then paying the dogkicker

Eira

It was fantastic and I think Doug gave a thoughtful response to Aiden’s point about pricing (which was also a good point). I really enjoyed this episode.

Hunter Ramsey

Would love to see more stories like the factory farming one on the main episode

Gil

I didn't like that you didn't mention that israel bombed Beirut because Hezbollah fired on israel because they explicitly rejected the ceasefire deal. I think that's very important because ignoring terrorism ends up making israeli actions seem unmotivated and motivated by hate rather than security. Otherwise rationale of what Israel's goals with extending the war is fair and uncontested - they want a better deal particularly one with an end of Iran support of Hezzbolah, Hamas, and Houtthis - things that are not currently top negotiating positions by Trump because terrorism against israelis doesn't effect Americans.

Allan

At some point during the Factory farms it turned into Animal farm

Festus Five

YO KEN AND AZEN REFERENCE IM IN THAT SMALL AUDIENCE LOOK ATRIOC AND IM PROUD

Claiming Light

Iowa boy here. Obviously the state of meat production and packing is nasty business. And the industry has more problems than just the welfare of the animals-- storm runoff from rain can wash both filth and ag pesticides, nitrates, etc into waterways, making them totally un-swimmable and contributing in a massive way to the dead zone in the Gulf as it all washes out from the Mississippi. Things absolutely do need to change in food production, and over the decades, they've gotten better. It's challenging, though: I can't remember the last time I've seen a legitimate contender for the Democrats here. The ones they wheel out always come off as whiny, uninteresting, uncharismatic and/or incompetent. We don't have a Gavin or a Bernie or a Zohran or a Barack. We get Joe Shmoes with no speaking ability, no fire under their ass-- just whoever they want to sacrifice to at least pretend they're putting up a fight. And that's because, while Iowa is a purple state in it's heart, the DNC doesn't care to dig too hard here to fund legit challengers. We see presidential candidates come through at the start of the election season, a whirlwind of activity and political money-- then that's it for the next four years. To return to the point: there's perhaps an argument to be made that people from other states like California have the right to make demands of products that enter their state. But... what does it even mean to be a federalized nation if interstate disagreements are handled by games of chicken, rather than through the federal institutions we've built and agreed to honor? Pitting the government of one state against the government of another is a sloppy shortcut that undermines federalization. But from a certain viewpoint, I obviously get it: if you're a state rep and your national lobbying isn't working because you're facing too much opposition, I can totally understand the temptation to try and force your agenda through with the levers you have. The thing is, the national lobbying isn't working for this and other issues because the people who get sent to the national stage are getting there without facing legitimate opposition, without having to moderate to bring people in from the left, without having to fear losing to a charismatic contender. If we want to see progressive movement in Iowa and states like it, we need to be funding progressives in those places and scouting for talent more rigorously. Do that, and issues like this are going to become less impossible to tackle across the board.

nickyyo

big pork is what i call atrioc

Paul

I know it’s a dumb argument but I feel like with the pig argument, you said it’s not fair for Iowa to dictate what Californian’s pork is like. If I were in Iowa I would say it’s not fair for California to tell me how to raise my pigs. So I fully understand why Iowa is saying fuck you, the other 47 states don’t give a shit how we raise pigs and now we have to charge more to these people and it isn’t fair to them. All that being said I agree with you guys. I just feel like exploring the Iowan arguments more could’ve made your point stronger. If I had to argue for Iowa I would say it’s a weird hill to die on, “we are still cool with the pigs being tortured, we just want them tortured slightly less, and in such a way that costs you a bunch of money.” “How much happier is the pig really going to be now that it can turn around? It only knows the condition it’s in. This seems like a law to make California people feel marginally better about their food. Maybe it’s better to go after ending factory farming all together if you actually care about the pigs welfare” Eviscerate me. Haha

Jesse

As

Jesse

XXX

Ruben

I know this doesn't really matter, but the quote "we have 2 parties that don't know what the fuck they're doing" was related to the Ukraine and Russia war, when he thought he was getting close to a cease fire at first.

hv085

If you didnt know about salt caverns for oil wait until you learn about nuclear waste lmao

Parker Gardner

Would love it if you guys added the ability to listen to the premium episodes on Spotify! I usually listen at night and I like to have music auto-play after the episode is over if I’m not asleep yet! I’m subscribed to the yard as well and they have the feature to listen through Spotify

Mhoy

Like 3 days before the Post Malone concert in Charlotte they just started giving away completely free tickets

Ryan

I would have thought Atrioc would be against pork prices increasing given his extensive history of glizzy consumption

Martijn Boer

I would like to hear your opinions and reasons why the US seems so unable to steer Israel. In the aid to Gaza story from Aiden, the US needed to set up a sea port just to get aid into Gaza, while Israel is right there with all the possibilities to open a border post to send in aid. But for some reason the US had to go the very expensive and slow route of building a new port. The US bullies every country around, except with Israel it is the other way around. Why?

EP

The factory farming conversation was a welcome surprise. Though, I feel it fails to ask the question why does a system this destructive persist with very little serious resistance? Industrial animal agriculture is designed to distribute its costs so widely that no single participant ever feels the full weight of what they are a part of. The moral cost of killing sentient animals, regardless of their conditions, is fragmented across billions of individual purchasing decisions until it becomes, effectively, unremarkable. We have built institutional infrastructure through subsidies, supply chains, zoning laws, and decades of lobbying around a practice that most people would struggle to endorse if they encountered it directly. Distributed wrongdoing is still wrongdoing. It is simply harder to see, and therefore easier to excuse. I am not trying to blame individuals. I ate meat for most of my life. The cultures we are born into, the families we are raised in, and the options made available to us all shape our behavior in a way that makes collective condemnation both unfair and unproductive. The problem is systematic. All this to say, I think Aidan’s point about choosing other options deserved more time. The premise that meat is a dietary necessity is recent and parochial. For most of human history, it was a luxury. This current moment is one of the few times that economic logic pushes people in the right direction. Plant based options are not only significantly cheaper but much healthier. A 15oz block of tofu at my local store costs $1.99, has 45g of protein, is leaner than any comparable meat, and contains all essential amino acids. Nobody has to overhaul their life overnight like I did (and they probably shouldn’t). Replacing animal products a few times a week would save most households money and reduce their exposure to the downstream risks of industrial animal agriculture (waste runoff, zoonotic disease, antibiotic resistance).

Kerblam!!1!

Salt is the gift that keeps on giving. They actually included white as the stripes and stars in the flag because one of the dounding father's constituents, Morphe McCallister, created a small mining team for a major salt cavity found in northeaster Virginia.

Brian Duffy

That whole idea of a pig farm as a metaphor for communism is a good idea, someone should write that book