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Recorded on: August 5th, 2026

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0:00 Intro

4:04 Are Theaters Back?

8:56 Roblox vs Minecraft

20:10 Abdul El-Sayed Wins Primary

34:55 Purchased Citizenships

48:45 1/4 of young men gamble daily

1:06:04 Houston vs San Jose

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Theedoo

glad we're covering the important topics- like roblox vs minecraft.

Mason Witt

Taking out a parley on that controversial Aiden take

Aiden Rosencrants

Note from a Michigander here. Michigan has open primaries and Mike Rogers ran unopposed for the Republican seat. Polling showed Steven’s losing by a much larger margin so not all of those 700,000 Steven’s voters were people who would vote democratic in the November Election. I read an article that said specifically in Detroit areas republican votes came out as less than predicted. All that to say I believe Abdul El Sayed may not have as tough of a time convincing the leftover dem voters to his side as it may seem.

Chandler Farrington

Minecraft bedrock edition is a cross-platform version of Minecraft built on a different engine, and already has monetized mods. It is pretty controversial. At least on the Java edition side, but it's actually the most played version of the game because kids can play it on phones.

Logan Page

I’m a volunteer captain for Abdul, so I’m super excited to here what yall have to say.

UnicornVibes

I'm a single canadian male, working in trades, going to technical college put me into alot of student debt, I'm not dating and trade stocks for fun since the last mortgage payment for a beginner home I calculated turned out to be more than my take home salary. Get me on the podcast 🥲 and I say this while paying for your patreon.

Logan Page

I will also say, Abdul just has the sauce. Mike Rogers does not.

Cole Markusen

When Aiden mentioned the house up on the hill away from people I just had to laugh, that's me. I am incredibly remote. It's not bad but it's definitely not for everyone. Like with most things, it has it's trade-offs.

Fern

Okay that joke about porn at school is real though. A decade all my school gave us all laptops and already once a year some kid would get caught watching it at school.

Somedoood

These guys have not lived in San Jose smh

Pipeman

I do kind of feel like a big oversight of the discussion on the purchased citizenships is that the regulations failing to really apply to anyone wealthy enough to buy the right citizenship was probably the system working as intended. Any action taken on this is almost certainly only happening because of public pressure amidst a right wing drift.

Jared Perttunen

As a viewer from Michigan I’m really quite upset with this election. Yes it is impressive and I’m of course excited about El-Sayed, but the amount of spending the Haley Stevens campaign poured into attack ads has really primed the local electorate against El-Sayed. I’m ready for 3 months straight of communist Muslim attack ads coming from the republicans and all the infighting over the last few months has only made those ads more effective. I can’t wait for the DNC to not reflect on this at all and change nothing if and when El-Sayed loses.

Linus Andersson

We're still genetically adapted to be hunter gatherers, we invented agriculture less than a thousand generations ago. It's a wonder we're navigating modern society as well as we do.

Tyler Katzman

If you guys are actually interested in Eritrea I’d love to get you guys there, probably too dangerous tho

M C

Bruh… Zendaya wasn’t Athena. I won’t spoil it for those who haven’t seen it past that point. But she isn’t. You are lead to believe that in the movie and trailer though. Also - Odyssey is good if you haven’t read nor know the actual story of the Odyssey. If you like the actual Odyssey, you will not like this movie.

Christian Domingo

My anecdotal experience with the cost of dating is that it disproportionately affects men. The guy paying for the date is still very much the norm at least where I live and with the rise of how competitive dating apps are simple coffee dates don’t set you apart. It’s become a real deterrent to my single friends trying to get into a relationship while not being an experience that any of my female friends have mirrored.

Leo

Zendaya could have been Athena or just PTSD, it was left deliberately ambiguous. I don't think you'll find anything from Nolan saying otherwise. And the Odyssey is good - most people who have seen it liked it. No need to pigeon-hole poem enjoyers as 'you will not like this movie', plenty have. You make confident statements in ignorance.

M C

It was not ambiguous. We see the Zendaya character get killed during the battle of Troy. Zendaya doesn’t do anything akin to Athena as in the poem other than him seeing her. The entire narrative of this movie is about PTSD. You can say it’s me pigeon-holing. But multiple interviews are asking why Nolan why he christianized the movie and completely changed the story. Which Nolan said wa because he wrote the story he wanted then applied the Odyssey lens onto it. Which is fine. Is a decent Nolan story that is the arch and cinematography you would expect from it. Now, if you like the actual poem due to themes, setting, humor, etc. that is all devoid in this movie - which even Nolan agrees to. Any level of historicity of the period (actual things not the comments on actors) weren’t there. Like it’s a good movie if you want a Christian knight story coming home from the crusades with PTSD and a loose Ancient Greek wrapper. So sure, if you love the poem and are fine thinking of this as a different movie entirely and are fine with the name being used specifically to pull ticket sales. Then yeah. I guess you are right. My apologies to that small subset of people for being to general. I am sorry I didn’t say “there is more nuance” in my response.

Neven Blanchard

As a gen Z michigander, you can really tell how authentic and empathetic Abdul is and im excited to see what changes he'll make when we sweep the generals in Nov

Neven Blanchard

What i hate about the electability conversation is that whenever a progressive dem loses to a republican bc centrist dems won't vote for a leftist, the dem party blames progressives for choosing too radical a candidate. But when a centrist dem loses to a republican (ie. Hillary or Kamala vs Trump), progressives are blamed for not voting hard enough

Sam

+1 SJ is a shithole and the only defenders of it I've met were born and raised there

HeyItsSouffle

In regards to the conversation about monetizing the modding scene in Minecraft: Bethesda has tried for and have seemed to fail quite spectacularly. They paid modders who have already created mods for Skyrim or fallout and then put them onto a storefront called a creation club and then used a currency that you had to get by paying real money to download the mods.

Bryan

1:50 - The explicit point of casting well known A listers for Oppenheimer is that the real one was very exposed and intertwined with famous/well-known people of that time. The feeling of recognition you had was exactly why Nolan casted like that It did break the illusion to have that in the Odyssey. Great movie though

Robert

Tipping an extra 5 bucks cause Atrioc said “people hongry for that good good”

Umbra Night

struggling young man here-

Jacob

I have an anecdote im a 28 year old man so not young. Ive been working since I was 18. My first job was in a large green house, family run did a bunch of construction and maintenance. Then I got a part time government job also maintenence for public parks. I had to get a full time job and leave the government job, for health insurance, there where no openings because the men wouldn't retire. Even if they did retire they would just get the part time job I was doing. I did maintenance for about 8ish years total. Ive been out of maintenance for like 2 years now and cant get back in.

Rob Cotter

Also from Michigan, there was a moderately competitive Republican governor race and local races. I could definitely see a bias from swing voters to pick the race that got more press, but I think the importance of Mike Rogers running unopposed is probably overstated. I did read that there was a really high percent of spoiled ballots, I would be curious what those looked like.

Wyatt Wilson

I feel like with the mega celebrity take with Odyssey for me at least it’s like you either have tons of All-Stars or you have none because we’ve all watched a movie and a known a character won’t die because the actor playing him was paid too much and they wouldn’t waste the money by killing him off early

Desert

I remember about 10-15 years ago Minecraft’s owners cracked down on minigame servers with in game purchases. Funny that today they are looking to integrate that into the balance sheet. I believe this was called the “EULA” controversy - could be worth looking into.

dinlaslamark

you guys spent a lot of time discussing the psychological reasons why people get one-shot by gambling but it really is just people are poor. the repealing of gambling laws surely helps but i don't think its the main contributing factor. people are just poor as fuck

Cartriage

I don't see anyone else commenting this but i don't think the boys actually elaborated on where their data point for the Gambling Addiction conversation came from. So i would like to share a link. https://ifstudies.org/report-brief/americas-demoralized-men-part-ii-lost-pathways-greater-struggles I think this is the referenced material. Is it accurate? personally I'm doubtful, i don't know how the report determines what is "gambling". sports betting? sure. stocks? maybe. but do gotcha games count? did that get quantified? anyway. for anyone who wants to actually read the report but doesn't want to actually try to find it.

Bald Can’t

Aiden's friend's take on the "American Dream" seems to make sense to me as a Aussie looking at the US from the outside. We've got our own problems with Tall Poppy syndrome, but overall things are fairly stable here with decent social security. Overall many tend to be humble or understated because living conditions are comfortable enough that we don't need to always stand out. To me, Americans can often come across as louder, boastful and more likely to interact with you for self benefit or to be able to leverage connections. Which comes across as rude as an outsider, but I also kind of get it because everything seems more competetive over there and there's less social safety nets. As in you're forced to put yourself out there just to survive (to an extent). That way I'm not surprised by the sentiment about the end goal being about getting your home on the hill away from everyone, cause I imagine eventually plenty of people would get sick of having to self advocate or put up with unlikeable people for the sake of career advancement.

Jonah Goff

I went to MS Hq this last week for a conference and the on campus store was about 1/4 copilot, 1/3 Minecraft, 1/3 Xbox and then the rest was random MS stuff

Joy

Just to put in my 2 cents as a female, I see the frustration with dating from both sides. I generally make more than most men in my age group and have seen that cause some friction. A guy said that I was expensive after a first date dinner. Yes, we split the bill. I was taken aback because the tier of restaurant is somewhere I would just go with girl friends since its a nice vibe. For the record, I ended up dating this guy, so its not to say that this was a deal breaker. I was surprised by the comment and the fact that he thought it was okay to say it. I had gone on another date where the guy had lost all his early retirement money in the stock market and was looking for someone who would "rebuild" with him. At the same time, he was really flexing that he was a homeowner and not looking for a gold-digger. A thought that my girl friends and I do laugh at is when guys say that they don't want a gold-digger, but don't have any gold to dig? Asking a girl to split the bills 50/50, but then having maybe a subconscious expectation for invisible and unpaid labor is, in our opinion, gold-digging guys. Cleaning, maintaining a house, tracking where things are kept, keeping a house stocked or tracking when things might run out are all things that keep our heads whirling, but so rarely appreciated. So please at the very least try to be aware of and appreciate the mental load. Chats with my girl friends always end up going back to the fact that we are looking for is effort, emotional maturity. We don't mind lower-cost dates, as long as there is thought and effort. It would be nice for all dates to be thoughtful. We don't mind picnics with maybe some of our favorite fast food. Or a movie night in with our favorite snacks from the grocery store, maybe just arranged so that we don't have to constantly get up. Or small, "I saw this and thought of you" gifts. A lot of my female friends also successful in their careers and I think something we think about is what a partner would bring to the relationship. We can already financially support our own lives and have built up friend groups and cozy home, etc. Men are more a want than a need now. I do want to say and I hope you've read to this point. I do think it has gotten harder for men. There are fewer well-paid blue-collar jobs, and higher education is not for everyone (I'm not looking down on anyone, our education system really only works for a people who work a certain way and filters out a lot of talent and intelligence if its even a bit different). Videogames and social media are literally made to be addictive and all-consuming. I think the way media has portrayed men and what "manliness" means is unhealthy, etc. Not trying to start a war here and this is all with the caveat that these are my personal thoughts, but I am curious to hear to what people think.

Tanner Retzlaff

The idea of being a struggling young man but still making sure I spend $5 a month on a podcast subscription.

Steven Winkler

They came for San Jose, I said nothing. They came for Houston, I said nothing. They came for my home, Scottsdale. I agree it sucks - old rich ass holes, hot weather, bad clubs.

Michael B

As a Sioux Falls resident, it is NOT going great! We basically lost our own Kathy Hochul by 4 votes. Now most people are convinced the republican mayor is going to find a place to put a data center that no one wants. No one owns a house, and we have the highest rate of people working 2 jobs in nearly the entire country!

mariahcareyfan

About two years ago I was working at Crumbl Cookie in the Suburbs of Chicago. I was 20 years old, upwards of 260LBS, ordering Doordash 5X a week, no car, no savings, no social life, and perpetually waiting for the next semester to enroll in community college. I started every morning with a large Chocolate Chip Cookie I would eat in the work bathroom while scrolling Instagram. I would watch Caleb Hammer videos out of a subconscious urge to deny myself the temptation of taking consumer debt and for schadenfreude dopamine. My life looks very different now. I decided to take a loan on a car because I couldn't bear to have my father drive me to work any longer. I do not regret my decision and find that the monthly payment forces me to be more disciplined and ambitious at work. I have lost 90lbs, have a functioning social life, exercise regularly, eat cleaner, and have a positive relationship with myself. I am soon moving to the Northern Peninsula in Wisconsin with my family and will be working at a confectionery as I finish my degree online. These are only a few of the positive changes I've made over the past two years. I've also been in therapy. I am not perfect, but things are trending in the right direction for me. The catalyst for this change was the removal of all algorithmic social media feeds from my life besides YouTube and Reddit (with heavy curation and time restriction). Not having my neurons violated by Mark Zuckerberg's perverted machinations gave me the mental clarity necessary to get my life back on track before I would become the spitting archetype of the downwardly mobile modern man: Fat, disaffected, and in constant search of dopamine from external sources. I think the negative traits Social Media promotes within oneself (laziness, lack of agency, distrust of others) intersects poorly with a man's expected role in the patriarchy (disciplined, forward thinking, stoic). Perhaps this dissonance causes men to feel impotent, isolated, and ultimately disgusted with themselves, forcing them further into the spiral of Pay in Four Doordash, Kalshi, Gooning, and being angry at people on your phone. At least it did for me.

Alyssa Bacon

Tell that to my mom (rip) and soldier and my the manipulative mommies trope (really just tell me please)

Alyssa Bacon

Oh no the men want my men to…. I just want my squishy and the evil hoes to shushhhhhhh but now I look evil and the internet would have a fucking hay day with my 5’5 German and French wisconsite ass WHY DID I START AN LLC AT 15 AND DUMB MYSELF DOWN TO GET PUT INTO AN ALT SCHOOL JUST TO TRANSFER ONLINE AND LOSE MY SURVIVOR BENEFITS (shout out madre AND FUCK MY FELLOW WOMAN

Alyssa Bacon

Also sorry I didn’t vote, there harder to understand and I didn’t know it was voting time…. sleeps been rough I sprayed metal 10 a day and all I saw were numbers and colors and a paint gun all day everyday around Mother’s Day after losing what I now see as the key access to happiness (with several debates ofc) pps I hope this paywall works as cooked as that sounds I’m spooked I feel like I’m saying things wrong

Alyssa Bacon

46:11 (howdy it’s nice to comment I’m OVER yapping again tho shush ik dumb blonde flat and muscular woman)

Alyssa Bacon

CHEESES HEAD CHEESE HEAD CHHESE HEAD (but it’s a lil lady, ps uhhhh ma grew up on the farm and ion have car to go see my grandparents so idk how much help I’ll really be with the whole farming stats and female representation outside of manual labor cause I’m .5 of all 4 variations you can make with that)

Alyssa Bacon

Nvm Aiden came in clutch and summed up some of my big points for me W Aiden

Callahan

It's important to note that the Stevens campaign didn't put any money into attack ads it was super pacs that did so the campaign would have no ability to coordinate with them. Also the infighting is expected seeing as how it's a primary which is literally an intra-party contest.

Gogs 70000

On the topic of Minecraft, the game has 2 main versions, Java (PC only) and Bedrock (PC, Mobile and consoles with crossplay). I say this because Bedrock already has paid mods, while regular free mods still exist for Bedrock, the mods on Market place on Bedrock don't require external tools and Microsoft gets a cut from it. This side of Minecraft is mostly ignored/frowned upon in the community but is something that has existed for like... 7 years now I think? Might be a little more tbh. Btw, the modding scene on bedrock is waaay smaller compared to Java, and mods from Java aren't compatible with Bedrock, so while Minecraft videos are 90% played on Java, most players probably play on Bedrock.

Refrays

If you have to upsell above a coffee date, they were never interested in the first place. If a girl genuinely wants to be around you and spend time with you, she'll make it easy and not turn down a coffee date.

Emmanuel Alagbala

I'd go to the cinema every week if there was a new good movie. It's a lovely experience and the issue has always been quality

Emmanuel Alagbala

This is an example of the literary crisis. The god athena could have taken the image of the innocent girl he killed. Simple