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Debating Debates | Lemonade Stand - Ep. 78 Premium [VIDEO] (Patreon)

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Recorded on: October 13th, 2026

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0:00 - Intro

1:45 - UK Opening Itself To The EU

8:44 - Reviewing Aiden's Favorite Movie Sequel

20:59 - Kimberly Guilfoyle "Resigns"

24:54 - New Ambassador Goals

28:01 - Used Playstation 5s for $1300

37:15 - Are Debates Effective Anymore?

43:24 - Breaking Through Mailer Confusion

46:24 - MAGA Money Being Withdrawn

53:50 - Apple HomeView React

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Bduub

What a great intro

dinlaslamark

on the topic of the podcast changing political views, I will say Atrioc really pushed me further right in realizing that the best structure of society is under capitalism with intense competition and strong consumer protection. Whereas before I was more of a believer in UBI and whatnot.

popcornspoon

Kimberly threatened to collapse the Greek economy/gov. Atrioc did not do this crazy story justice

Bailey

Kinda crazy atrioc would keep bringing up the pokemon discussion and not talk about it. Been waiting for that talk for weeks now

Bryan

Unsure if ragebait or didn't learn anything

Nuance

Isn't UBI proposed by capitalists? is this bait

Ian Peratt

You guys have made me way more reactionary and fucked in the head. Thank you for being a chaotic inspiration on my general political outlook!

Dr. DankDabs

I can’t help but laugh at Big A walking out of the social network thinking about how he needs to stop with the bullshit and start grinding. Then he proceeds to no life league for 3 years straight.

Coastalwolf

on political change, I really do feel like over the course of beginning to listen I have shifted many of my views further left, though I still lean republican on some issues. Mostly its been economic issues that ive changed my view on. I think I just never really understood how much of the system worked and it probably helped that donny T is such a lunitic. When I was a kid I listened to lots of far right political podcasts, and they never had the same nuance you do, not even close. Funny tidbit, since I'm registered as independent, I get a crazy number of political candidates knocking at my door and text messages. I feel like the hot kid on the block

Doug Gold

The Big A channel and this podcast have greatly changed how I view politics. I didn't bother finding a real side because I was NEVER presented any information in a way I could understand. It all felt fake and for old people. Generally, I would have said I hold conservative views (not that that I even knew what that meant). But after seeing real consequences in my life due to our boy Trump, I looked for clarity from the only person/group that has ever presented anything political clearly. I still don't think I would say i'm a democrat or anything. But holy sh*t am I ever anti Trump/current systems.

Jonathan Rivas

Bruh Google invented this shit 10 years ago apple is completely out of ideas

Deadpixel

I Love the Pokémon bit, never stop! 😅

Darkhill Duck

You can have both capitalism and large redistribution

zach mattia

Small thing on debating debates, I think from my experience volunteering with DSA, that door knocking is a big reason for our success. It is big to get in person conversations by tabeling at events or knocking on someones door to break through the noise.

Darkhill Duck

As a Dane, I will say no one (that I know) thinks about needing the UK to help "defend Greenland", it's really just that we are tired of getting a huge import tax + "handling fee" when getting stuff from the UK, which we used to buy a lot of stuff from, and still do, but now with annoying delays and fees

Andrew

Did Trump even fire any men at this point?

anthurium

Unrelated to this episode, but I think you guys should consider trying to get Leland Miller on as a guest. He is the CEO of china beige book which provides data about China gathered independetly from the CCP.

Memory Fish

Probably not ragebait, I think I was also further left wing before I watched Atrioc. I previously watched a lot of Hasan and he’s definitely further left than Atrioc, so I don’t think the commenter meant Atrioc made them a republican.

Arya Desai

Aiden, micron is an american company, notably the only major RAM company outside South Korea (the others being SK Hynix and Samsung).

William Ek

As a generally pretty left wing guy I've really appreciated Aiden's perspective especially. Learning more about his views and finding out that we're really not that different. I really admire his empathy, so I hope he'll eventually figure out the issues with wanting to live in a "white paradise".

Colin Doubek

Not defending it, but the Apple HomePod with the display to me feels like a competitor for the Amazon Echo Show. I know everyone in my family loves those devices, direct and cousins. In the kitchen, in offices, etc. I'm sure the demand for these devices is low but as of now there hasn't been an Apple alternative for those devices. My guess is that this will probably effect those sales but I don't think there will be much demand. Again, not defending it, just sharing the perspective that I have on this device. I for sure won't be buying one, I also don't have an Echo.

Joe

I’m not sure if a lot of people experience this, but I am like the informant for my family and friends. I engage with all the debates and politics and tell them about what’s happening. My problem is I know I can’t present both sides as well as they could themselves so that frustrates me when they engage with the clip farmed debates instead

Tempest Liu

Unfortunately I am one of the left leaning audience already agree with many things. But on the optimistic side, I am not American.

NightKnight

My main takeaway from this episode is that Groudon saved apple.

Robert

Ok random side comment, I feel like you guys should watch the Jerry west documentary that just recently came out. Not that it’s some amazing piece of film/documentary or anything but I feel like a lot of the stuff you were talking about with the Facebook movie is that the director did not really care for the true story and it’s meaning and wanted to make his own thing. I think the complete opposite happened with the Jerry west documentary a lot of careful thought and care went into it to talk about 2 sides of a really interesting human being. Just tossing that out there

Mikhail Beresnev

missed opportunity to reference the south park episode at the end to stand for standing

Pineapple Scuddleduck

I feel like he never really has said this. Everything I hear is more related to the importance of equal power distribution as opposed to picking the "correct economic system".

Malcolm

You’ve definitely changed my mind - I used to think Brandon was skinny, Aiden loved “The Sound of Music” & Doug had hair. Thanks Mr Stands

Spenser Leise

This show has changed opinions fs! I think this show (and Atrioc) have made me shift politically. I think it has made me moderate some of my super Liberal views, and helped me understand more about the world, what I care about, & why economics are super important. I think shifting from my old media diet (Pod Save America, Hasan, & PDS) to my current one (Lemonade Stand, Big A, Tangle, The Daily, etc.) has helped me convey my worldview to others & enabled me to be part of political discussions. This show is cool & has helped me inform friends, challenge people’s beliefs & figure out where I stand on some of these things.

Steven Winkler

I worked at Best Buy when the Facebook portal came out. We had to set up a full end cap for it where it was on display and we had units under for sale. No joke, we did not sell one and it was taken down within the year. I can’t believe that they’re doing it again, every conversation I had with a customer about it, even ones that were just genuinely curious, almost ended comically. I work in smart home full-time now, not at Best Buy but still in the industry. I still think the sentiment around these types of devices are neutral if not, leaning negative. I can’t believe Apple has decided to go this route. Seems so weird to me.

nickyyo

atrioc has pushed me further right in realising the 2020 election was stolen

M C

Idk. I think the debate can have a pretty serious impact. I wasn’t sure if Trump was going to have my vote for the 5th time, but seeing Genocide Joe unable to come up with a coherent thought really made me feel like I made my right decision. Edit: be in all reality. I only watched any full debate this political cycle because I watched like Hasan or Mike from PA watch it on stream. And it’s honestly the same thing like Ezra having a debate on his channel, if no one mentions it on the vast amount of political content I consume, I figure it’s not worth watching. And for the ad sense, it’s for the boomer. I think the Massie primary is a great example, same thing with Texas right now with Freako himself. As long as you are allowed to use AI deepfakes in political ads, then ad buy will always make sense if all you are trying to do is convince boomers or suppress voter turnout (which is the actual benefit of attack ads, not so much changing someone’s mind)

BoxofMeltedCrayons

Clips and short form content only exist to affirm what you already believe or get you angry at the opposing side. If you can change your beliefs overnight you clearly had very weak beliefs. When you hear about something though a short or a clip the default assumption should be that this information is being twisted to fit someone's agenda. The act of making a clip ensures this is the case. This podcast has changed my views on some issues but there isn't a single moment when I flipped. I slowly learned new information, and saw things from different perspectives. I was only able to do that because your discussions allows for nuance, disagreement, and differing perspectives and all of these things take time.

ThatDanMan

@Grok, how do I feel about people using conservative backed LLMs to pick who they vote for? Podcasters aren't worried, so that's the way I'm leaning - make no mistakes

retrogr8de

Lebron James facts gif

Buddy

I wonder if the new purpose of the debates or political ads is more just a way to drum up voter turnout?

Miko

My manager has an apple sticker over his Dell laptop I think hes standing up to something

Jack Kelly

as far as the purpose of debates and the rise of what is basically clip farming in politics go, I think while they may not be swaying anybody from either side to change their position I think it is furthering some of the polarization that is already happening in the country and keep pushing the content that people will agree with and continuously show you one highly polarized side so you never have to ask questions or have doubt in your beliefs.

Drake15712

Just watched the episode today, I never comment on things, but I did want to say I’m considered right wing, and for a lot of things that’s true. But many years ago now I’ve stepped away from the idea that you have to stand behind everything a political party says. I think having to choose “right” or “left” has thrown nuance and critical thinking away to rot and it feels crazy to not actively be looking at both sides of anything. There’s usually some sort of middle ground, there’s usually some sort of misunderstanding and there’s usually some sort of justification on both sides. I appreciate what all three of you bring to the table here greatly and everyone behind the scenes and the unseen work they do. If you read this I appreciate your time but unfortunately like Aiden I’m from Canada so my opinion doesn’t really matter 🫡

J LeBrun

Does the idea matter if it's proposed by some camp or another? A good idea is good, a bad idea is bad. Plenty or horrible people have had good ideas, and plenty of good have had bad. Focusing on who said it instead of what was said is what is causing our current political tribalism

Gabriel Boquimpani

Hey, I feel like the quality of the Premium episodes doesn't stand up to standard of the free stuff. After watching 78 eps, I'd like a refund. Here's my crypto wallet: 3FZbgi29cpjq2GjdwV8eyHuJJnkLtktZc5. My lawyers will be contacting you.

Jason Snell

Big A has definitely helped me to view the left in a more positive light. From a conservative family I tended to always lean a bit further left than them… but through effective conservative messaging and familial influence I thought the left essentially didn’t care about finances because they wanted to spend government money on social programs. I like that Big A is able to be in favor of leftist ideals that can work in a capitalist economy. That really resonated with me.

RedLychee

I am a little late but I have certainly changed some opinions based on the information and presentation the podcast has shown me, whether it was a Ai being not fully bad while also having flaws issues that need to be fixed or showing the importance of trade relations, debt, and inflation and why they matter and need to be balanced. Basically I want to say: Now I am become nuance, the lacker of opinions.

Josh Truff

Hilarious ending talking about the Duo in retrospect.

Pulta Ragrwine

I paid attention to politics before and hasn't changed my views, but this show has significantly improved my awareness of historical context for the articles I see from different outlets. You guys do an awesome job diving into things like the history of Iran, the investing bubble leading up to the .com collapse and subsequent investing in AI afterward. Things I don't have the time to research and find interesting, but am not interested enough I want to do a wikipedia deep-dive to understand individual players.