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The International Sexy Game Controversy (Patreon)

Published:
2026-08-07 08:00:00
Edited:
2026-08-07 14:44:08
Imported:
2026-08

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This Week on Post Games:

Act 1: The Sexy Game That's Taken Over the World

Act 2: A Werewolf Man, Dung Deliveries, and the Chinese Government

Act 3: Loving a Game That Will One Day Disappear

Patreon Bonus: Just How Bad Is the EA Sale?

Guests:

Ash Parrish: Senior reporter, Kotaku

Natalie Checo: Community + social media manager and writer, Sunset Visitor

Rebekah Valentine: Senior reporter, Kotaku

Closing Song: "Band on the Run (16 Bit, SNES)" by spaceyorick

Act 1: The Sexy Game That's Taken Over the World

In Love And Deepspace, Intimacy Is The Ultimate Gooner Bait (Kotaku)

Nobody Told Me One Of The Biggest Games On The Planet Is Super Horny (Kotaku)

Let Me Tell You About Love and Deepspace (Aftermath)

Hit Romance Gacha Game Love And Deepspace Circumvents Strict NSFW Laws By Using Stick Figures For Horny Scenes (Kotaku)

Love And Deepspace Has Brought Out My Inner Video Game Developer (Kotaku)

The Love And Deepspace Werewolf Man Is Possibly Dead For Good After The Drama’s Latest Twist (Kotaku)

Act 2: A Werewolf Man, Dung Deliveries, and the Chinese Government

Love and Deepspace – Official Valko: Chasing Night Trailer (GameTrailers/YouTube)

Meet My Love and Deepspace Boyfriends: How I’m Juggling a Vampire, a Sea God, and Spacefleet Colonel in This Mobile Dating Game (IGN)

Hearts Continue To Break Over Love And Deepspace (Aftermath)

Characters (Love and Deepspace Wiki)

Gooner (Merriam-Webster)

A Tale Of Two Gooners (Defector)

Yandare (Wiki)

Act 3: Loving a Game That Will One Day Disappear

Love And Deepspace Isn’t Printing Money Like It Used To After Cancelling Werewolf Lover (Kotaku)

Caleb (Love and Deepspace Wiki)

Why date when Love and Deepspace exists? (Mothership)

Spending Money in Free-to-Play Games: Sociodemographic Characteristics, Motives, Impulsivity and Internet Gaming Disorder Specificities (National Library of Medicine)

How do you use workout feature? (and work/study as well) (r/LoveAndDeepspace)

Patreon Bonus: Just How Bad Is the EA Sale?

Electronic Arts Officially Belongs To Saudi Arabia, Private Equity, And Jared Kushner Now (Kotaku)

The Ghouls Who Run EA Deserve To Burn (Aftermath)

After laying off Battlefield 6 devs, EA boss Andrew Wilson's bonus rose $8m to $38m last year, thanks to the game's success across "all milestones" (Eurogamer)

This Week in Video Game Links

Your Guide to August’s Family Friendly Video Games (Crossplay)

BEAST OF REINCARNATION REVIEW: It's not perfect, but this parry-centric scrapper has a distinctive mood and often excellent combat. (PCGamer)

The Steam Library of Babel (Matthew Seiji Burns)

I miss touching my waifu (The Stacks)

Dear Brother, Have Some Sake With Me (Stop Caring)

Free Game of the Week: 500 Finger Filet demo

From the game's summary: 500 STABS. 20 MINUTES TO ESCAPE. A horror roguelite about stabbing yourself in the hand 500 times to escape a deadly trap. Can you make it out with all your fingers? Or will you bleed out on the table? (Steam)

"The demo for 500 FINGER FILLET taught me that none of you should let me anywhere near a kitchen knife, also can someone call a doctor" (RPS)

What Else I’m Enjoying

Inside James Turrell's 100th and most ambitious Skyspace (BBC Global/YouTube)

Fred Armisen & Carrie Brownstein on the Best Music Films | Adventures in Moviegoing (Excerpt) (Criterion)

Antonio Banderas’s Acts of Faith (The New Yorker)

Song of the Week: “Band On The Run (16 Bit, SNES)” by spaceyorick

A cover of "Band on the Run" by Paul McCartney and Wings.

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Comments

Sierra

Great episode! Love Ash's and Natalie's perspective about the LaDS controversy and why this game has such a hold on player emotions. Literally nobody is catering to this market except for LaDS (there is one competitor I'm aware of on the horizon, but there is no release date yet) and I feel like this is a major reason why this controversy has gotten so much scrutiny - for better and worse, Infold is setting the precident for this untapped "girl gooner game" market (and yes I do mean "and" because they do some great things and some stupid things). One of the limiting things about producing such a high quality podcast is that it can only ever be a snapshot in time. This conversation does a great job of covering a specific time period in the controversy, but the situation has evolved! Long story short, in subsequent weeks, due in part to positive actions by pro-Valko fans (like raising money for wolf conservation organizations), more discussion has come out from branches of the Chinese government and media about how while Valko's marketing was a miss, upon further investigation the character itself wasn't "guilty" of promoting things like domestic abuse. There has also been reporting about how while the game is rated 18+ in China, minors have been going to some wild measures to get accounts, and then spending thousands of their parents money on the game, leading to more discussions about how to keep kids out of spaces they're not supposed to be in. If this fantastic episode piqued your interest in the situation, I highly recommend checking out the @AngelsCornerr YouTube channel. She has a few episodes out explaining the situation as it progresses, what it means for the lore and creative integrity of the game, and the evolving conversation in China. While this whole situation is bleak, honestly, I'm not ready to bury my werewolf husband's code yet. I think the Chinese game market could seriously suffer if harassment campaigns like this end up controlling what developers can and can't release.

Robert Secundus

Excellent episode. If any patreon-exclusive is made freely available in the near future, I think it should be this one with a bullet. Important information for this audience to have. The one thing I think I'd add is just that EA Sports specifically isn't just attractive because of how big it is, but also because SA has pursued sports in general extremely aggressively (and, unfortunately, Sports Entertainment, in their ongoing relationship with the WWE). Concerning the first half of the show: extremely informative, and a nice followup to some of the ongoing concerns of this show (specifically the erotic games series). Hard to address topics like this without supporting American anti-China propaganda (or the reverse), but i think the line was very nicely walked here.

James W.

Am *I* a discerning gooner? 🤔 I read an article about this a month or two back, but this was an excellent deep dive into what's going on.

Elyse

Great episode! I’ve never played LaDS but I downloaded it onto my iPad today thanks to this fun discussion! Can’t wait to try it out today! In the years just after high school, I would play a lot of emulated, fan-translated otome games and the mention of them is what got me on board. And while the gacha aspect is a bit of a turn off for me, I think Ash and Natalie are right that there just really isn’t anything else out there, at this scale and in this way, catering to the dark romance fans or romance fans in general— which, as we can see by how big this game is— is a huge oversight. Im a library worker and the biggest draw toward reading right now, aside from the typical James Patterson bestseller thrillers, is Dark Romance and Romantasy! The EA discussion was indeed bleak! Aside from the obvious ethical problems with the whole thing, on a selfish level, I am a huge fan of BioWare’s games and I just can’t see a scenario where this bodes well for them. Already they have struggled with their most recent two releases— Veilguard already being a victim of pressure to make a live service game (and as I understand it— a few other scrapped iterations) before reverting to a single player experience that feels a bit hollow. I cannot imagine a future in which that doesn’t get WORSE with this new move.

Kel Bennett

Game? Downloaded. Tea? Spilled to anyone who would listen to me go on a half hour tangent. Ash and Natalie were amazing, thank you both so much!!