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TWC Comic and Poll

  • Would be interested in a comic, would support a Kickstarter 81
  • Would be interested in a comic, would not support a Kickstarter 37
  • Would only be interested in the completed comic 10
  • Would only be interested in a paged (not webtoon/strip) comic 3
  • Would not be interested in any TWC comic 52
  • 2023-10-27
  • 183 votes
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Content

Well... this weekend was supposed to be a big important audiobook release, but Audible has finally screwed me over and not released. -_- So it'll just happen randomly next week, probably? I apologize for the delay in chapters, but I already had this post set up and I really want to get everyone's opinion.

($5 patrons already saw this, but please check out the poll at the bottom!)

You may have recently heard about a lot of western progression fantasy novels getting webtoon adaptations, putting up $100,000+ to have major studios draw them or signing away the adaptation rights to bigger players. Well, I'm afraid I'm not popular enough or well-connected enough to be part of that, but I don't know if that's my style anyway and I have been quietly working on something in the background.

Over the years I have worked with an artist from the Philippines who has always been prompt and professional (he did the anatomy set, by the way). Recently we discussed the idea of doing a webtoon together, as it would have obvious benefits for both of us.

The in-line image is his work, but the real focus should be the attachment (don't miss it!). This would be Episode 2. The first episode in terms of reading order would cover the prologue of Soulhome, but since that's a long and artistically-taxing section (plus the introduction for new readers) I wanted to leave that for later when we have everything refined. But I think this is still representative of the idea.

My vision for the webtoon is not 100% identical to the books, because I already wrote the books. This is an adaptation intended to draw in new readers. The webtoon would be faster paced, less subtle about characterization, and involve faster gratification. On the other hand, it would also allow for leaning into the visual side of things, especially the world and character expressions. We could do amazing things with Krikree, for example.

I want to know what everyone thinks of this so far. Bear in mind my goals above, but you don't have to approve. Indeed, one of the reasons I'm posting this is in case more ardent webtoon fans think that this isn't up to snuff and shouldn't represent the series. But this is one of the things I have been working on in the background, so I hope you enjoy. ^-^

Kickstarter Question

The webtoon economy is grim and turning a profit is not very likely. I can spend a moderate amount trying to start up something like this, but I don't have the combination of wealth and passion it would take to bankroll an entire webtoon. Another author, however, raised the option of Kickstarter funding.

Kickstarter is the hot new thing for authors, but I've stayed out for three reasons: I think it might be too early for me, it isn't necessary for me business-wise, and I prefer to keep my attention on writing. This might be an interesting experiment, though! It could gauge the level of interest in a TWC comic, potentially find a few new readers, and fund a series of comics.

Before that gauging, however, a poll to get everyone's interest. Answers are anonymous, so please vote your preference to let me know! All other feedback is welcome too, of course.

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Mountainking

I probably wouldn't support a Kickstarter, but I think it would probably be one of the better ways to support a webcomic

Desertopa

I'd support a Kickstarter, but I think you might want to feel out how much of a time investment it'd be on your end, since even if the Kickstarter pays for it all, that's still time it'd take from other projects. On the other hand, I think it could be a good experience in terms of building familiarity with visual storytelling. I will say, as far as my personal tastes go, I'm really not a fan of the visual formatting of most Korean endless scroll comics, because I find most of them really ineffective in their use of space. I'd probably prefer a paged format, because I generally find them better composed.

Arcane

While I would certainly be interested, I wouldn't want you to put yourself in financial risk for it.

Jerek Kimble

I care more about getting the next book rather than a webcomic adaptation, personally. Seeing as how my first thought was disappointment over not getting new chapters should illustrate where my values are.

sarahlin

One of the reasons I'm doing a few sample comics is exactly to estimate the time commitment. Going forward with this would actually require finding a way to smooth out a couple issues that appeared with my workflow. Paged comics would be my preference too, but webtoons are the flavor of the day. We have considered the requirements for a compiled version as well.

sarahlin

Don't worry. I make sensible investments in projects that might be interesting, but I'm not the type to bet it all on something new.

Imp

After too many disappointing Kickstarters, even from people I trusted, has made me shy on them. Sorry.

taedirk

Torn between my indifference towards a webcomic on material I'm already familiar with and my hatred for webtoons-style scrolling comics.

Pete

I usually only check the beginning of adaptations and then lose interest because I know the original. So I would not be a backer. I would check the comic out but dunno how long I would stick with it

bcdp

Well, seems I am getting too old. Can't bother with the scrolling comics. Like someone else said, too much waste of space. But that's just a side comment... my poll is that I am not interested in a comic version when there is a well written book. I'd appreciate the occasional picture for setting the atmosphere.

SuspiciousReader

Honestly, my interest in a webcomic would depend a lot on the artstyle. I'd like to point out that you should be careful of the workload it'll be to you. I don't know if you intend to be closely involved with the production, but adapting it to a comic format might require heavy rewriting of the flow of events. It could end up being very taxing to you, especially with the length of TWC, and the result might not be satisfying (to you or to the readers). Edit: I did not see the attached pdf at first. I like the artstyle and I think this could be nice to follow the story in that format.

David Johnson

The comic looks good, but I probably wouldn't back a Kickstarter. If you haven't already it might be worth talking to MelasD (Salvos) and Selkie Moon (Beneath the Dragoneye Moons) about the process and financing for these things. Salvos has a webtoon adaptation running already, and I know Selkie's been working on getting one going for a while and has mentioned it's taking a lot longer than they'd like.

Desertopa

Completely random aside, looking over the art again, I'm wondering if the characters all being about the same height is actually canon to their designs, or if they're just scaled that way for illustrative purposes.

MediumGray

Ya, I second this. It's the sort of thing that I might check out initially but I wouldn't spend any money on it. Not that it doesn't look great/isn't worth money or anything, it's just not the sort of thing I spend my money on.

sarahlin

I believe that MelasD is just financing his himself, but don't know about Selkie Moon.

sarahlin

Scaled that way. Theo > Nauda > Fiyu, but none are unusually tall or short.

Robin

The art is quite decent, maybe a bit too manga like(makes characters look similar to other manga characters and it does not distinguishyou from the crowd very well). I think leaning into the vertical format for webtoons is very smart(as more people are likely to read them on a mobile these days), but you do have to be a bit smarter about using the space, if you go for paged comics check out some of the dresden codak ones for novel page layouts and for changer the direction of reading in a natural way. Some toons that stood out to me had a bit of animation every so often you could consider. Consistently putting out new pages with a good story that is not too slow moving is what would keep people coming back. So the main question is whether you and your artist are willing to put in the investment of time and money to try and gather a larger audience, which might not happen. Good luck!

The Freigh

I really love the webcomic personally and I think it would be neat to see the characters/scenarios on the page. With that said, I’m ambivalent about paying for a kickstarter given that I’ve already read the books, as others have noted, and I’m worried about the financial viability given how saturated the market is. Selfishly, given how many more books it feels like are left before the series is finished, I also worry that work on this might delay/impact progress on the book series, (or even just cause the perception that it’s doing so) which could impact your Patreon and have the opposite effect you were looking for. And starting the comic without the main series being finished might be risky if the comic eventually catches up to the books. On the other hand, if you finish the books first and try this again, it could be a fun thing for book fans to relive the series, and you’d have some buzz coming into it if the assuming people loved the ending. Just my two cents. But again, the comic itself was top notch and Ignis seems like a fantastic artist. Unrelated, but have you considered including more art within the books itself ala Stormlight Archives?

sarahlin

Thanks for your detailed thoughts. There's basically zero chance the comic could ever catch up, even with faster pacing, but worrying about ongoing progress is a valid concern. While I'd hoped that a comic might draw in new readers while the series was ongoing, attempting it after the conclusion is at least a possibility. Art in the books is a non-starter, I'm afraid. Amazon charges by file size and my profit margins are low, given the price of the books. If you want supplemental art, Patreon is the place where you'll find it.

The Freigh

Thanks for the insight. I wasn’t aware of how Amazon charged, so that makes total sense. Also that makes sense about trying to draw in a new audience to the books while they’re ongoing. I’ve only read a few web comics and have always been a text-first kind of person, so I can’t speak to how many people you’d be able to draw in, but I guess it comes down to whether the extra effort and expenditure would justify the projected growth.

Runcible Technician

If the comics are going to be limited overall, you should just have a two or three page worldbuilding splash that you could add to each book. White Wolf publishing has done that for the Exalted and Aeon Trinity series of gaming books and it really did set the stage for the content past that point. A notable example that springs to my mind is in Return of the Scarlet Empress where the beginning of the book has a surreal dream sequence comic that is revealed to be the dying thoughts of a major character in the game narrative as he is murdered, setting the stage for the end of the Time of Troubles.

Laggmaster

Was not expecting an omnibus audiobook of books 1-3. I figured book 4 was about to launch.

sarahlin

The omnibus is out BECAUSE the fourth audiobook is about to launch.

Inv7ctus

I would love a Comic, I just wish I had the money to help fund it.

sarahlin

These responses are also useful, thank you!