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*Unedited* First Time Watching GOT History & Lore Szn 2! (Patreon)

Published:
2025-09-15 21:13:51
Edited:
2025-09-29 20:18:33
Imported:
2026-06

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A longgg one today but so fun!! I love learning about the GoT world!

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MKF1004

I swear I thought I was going crazy and saw a notification for this an hour ago, then logged in to find nothing. Maybe I was having a fever dream 🤣

Licha Reacts!

haha you're not crazy!! I made episode 2x5 accessible to the Top Tier peeps so that's probably what the notif was hehe

Nkanyezi

you're the first person i've seen have so much empathy for theon and his situation after watching season 2, it's really refreshing😂

Kawaii Leonard

About Theon losing his head, that's just his point of view. Knowing what we know of Ned, he would pick family over duty. I don't think Ned would murder a innocent boy.

Nick Jones

Seeing someone else's Youtube Ad algorithm is actually kinda funny.

Cat Indigo

To garrison a castle is to have troops/soldiers and knights. A castle that big would need 10s of thousands of troops and their supporters.

Licha Reacts!

Interesting!! I thought it was maybe mandatory but that would make sense too!

Licha Reacts!

Yay!! I'm happy y'all aren't mad at me for sympathizing with him! He's such a complex character I really like his story (just not his actions haha)!

kiki

Theon's problem at Winterfell (and with the iron islanders in general) was that he approached it as if the Islanders were northerners or just regular soldiers from the mainland, people that had honour and respect people born into positions of power, rather than those who fight for it. As much as Theon wanted to be accepted by his own people, he clearly didnt know enough about them or their customs and that was his undoing in the end. He was naive, and honestly not very smart. If Theon had behaved like a proper Iron Islander rather than tried to pose as a conquering mainland Lord, he would have robbed Winterfell of all its gold/wealth and then left instead of trying to hold it and getting his men killed. He probably would have gotten his father's approval from that, and Yara's respect. Robb probably still would have wanted him dead, but the rest of the north probably wouldn't have been as up in arms as they are now thinking that he killed Bran and Rickon.

kiki

I disagree. I think we view Ned through rose tinted glasses to be honest. Ned proved his ruthlessness in the first episode of season 1, when he beheaded the deserter. He also killed Sansa's wolf on the King's orders, when he could have done as Arya did and let her escape. Ned would have done his duty. I doubt he would have taken pleasure in it, but duty always came first for him and as much as we'd like to pretend otherwise, Theon wasn't family to him. He would have had no issue taking his head. Only Sansa and Arya's safety ever put Ned's obsession with duty and honour at risk. The Starks are "the good guys" but they also aren't weak. They wouldn't have remained Lords in the north for so long if they were weak. As Sandor Clegane said to Sansa "your father is a killer and your brother is a killer".

Kawaii Leonard

Theon was basically a hostage, to keep his father Balon from doing anything stupid. Ned didn't really have to take care of Theon, as he was a hostage, but he did. He raised him up with all his kids. That's why Theon and Robb see each other as brothers.

Kawaii Leonard

Beheading a deserter is not the same as killing an innocent kid, like Theon or Dany. The guy broke his oath.

kiki

I think its easy to forget that Theon was a captive and a hostage. He wasn’t Ned's son, he was his ward. Basically his servant almost. Theon and Jon probably faced similar issues fitting in with the Stark boys, albeit for different reasons. Theon went with his actual blood family over the Starks. As much as people hate that he did that, it makes sense. It was a bad decision, but it wasn't some completely random betrayal that a lot of people paint it to be. He just wanted his actual family to accept him.

Cat Indigo

On magic: What I got from the books, magic did exist until the dragons died out. Now it's back because Danys brought back the dragons.

Cat Indigo

I typed that before you finished talking, you got it.

bloodraven

The Free Cities are cities located in Essos, the big continent at the other side of the Narrow Sea, many of these cities were part of the Valyrian Freehold, the capital was the city of Valyria, now that Valyria no longer exists each city governs itself.

NF

Storms End is the ancestral home of the Baratheons, and it was the castle Stannis nearly starved to death to defend so he felt it was a slight to see Robert give his ancestral home and castle away to Renly. And knowing Robert and his temper you know he basically insulted Stannis while “rewarding” him with Dragonstone. That’s why Stannis resented (though accepted) being given Dragonstone over Storms End. Yes Dragonstone was a castle typically given to the heirs, but this was a Targaryen custom since Dragonstone was the ancestral home of the Targaryens. But Stannis had zero emotional connection to Dragonstone. So it was like being shipped off to some shitty island of rocks, while Renly gets to be lord of their home and rule over an actual kingdom in the Stormlands.

bloodraven

It was a Targaryen tradition that the crown prince would own Dragonstone, but it still belonged to the King. Dragonstone is good if you're the heir to the throne. Stannis technically was because Robert didn't have any sons yet, but that was about to change. Storm Ends has more bannermen than Dragonstone, Storm Ends rules over more territory, which means more money and your army will be bigger. There are more people living in the Stormlands than on Dragonstone and the islands around it.

Deke_HFX

The Jorah Mormont Robb was referring to, is indeed the same Jorah that is with Daenerys. Robert nade him a knight because of his contributions to the Battle at Pyke. Jorah also fought for Robert during the rebellion, he was there at the Battle of the Trident when Rhaegar Targaryen was killed by Robert. It was after these events he married Lynesse Hightower. About four years later Ned came to take his head for slavery, but Jorah and his wife already fled across the sea, where he sacrificed for her while she spent all their money and eventually left him to be a concubine to a rich man. His father, Lord Commander Jeor Mormont became a man of the Nights Watch before Robert's Rebellion.

Flexorcist

I hope you change your mind on not doing this moving forward. It adds a lot more color to the season

Mobius

Not sure why reactors watch history and lore before the series. It changes the experience. GOT is meant to be watched without any context for an authentic experience.

Flexorcist

A lot do watch them after every season. It was designed for it to be that way. If i remember correctly History and Lore is on the blue ray release and after each season

Flexorcist

Theon will definitely be beheaded. The king will order Ned to do so, and if not Ned its Ilyn Payne

Deke_HFX

I don't blame Ned one bit, he was married for a single day, then had to go back to war. War is hell.

Deke_HFX

Damn shame what happened to ser Davos. He was a real one. In the books his wife is still alive at Cape Wrath, the keep Davos was given when knighted.

Deke_HFX

Stannis is uncompromising. 'Uncompromising men are easy to admire. He has courage; so does a dog.' - Braveheart

Conzi

Robert was a bad king because he was reckless and didn’t care, but pardoning the Tyrell’s makes sense because they were keeping their oath to the king by defending him. Their honor was treated with honor. The Greyjoys, on the other hand… yeah.

Deke_HFX

Robert seemed to follow Aegon's playbook. Respected the willingness to fight, but when defeated, if they bent the knee, all was forgiven. Robert would defeat you, then sit down and get drunk with you. Robert just straight up loved the battle, remember, to him this was about punishing Targaryens first, being king just happened to be the result.

Licha Reacts!

ohhh wowww!! I thought it was his dad!! Poor Jorah man, his wife didn't sound like a very good lady :((

Licha Reacts!

yea that's fair, as a woman tho... I'd crashout (imma jealous queen)

Deke_HFX

Ya, he was Lord Mormont of Bear Island. A true warrior who was there for everything, even showed up after the Lannisters sacked Kings Landing. But he threw it all away trying to please his (trash) wife, annnnd he been snitching yo! Capturing poachers, making em slaves, running from justice, snitching. Poor Jorah, lol.

NF

I reckon the decisions Robert made to pardon the Tyrells (and later the Greyjoys) was advised by Jon Arryn. The rebellion was meant to break Targaryen rule but maintain a united seven kingdoms. I think Jon Arrn would have told Robert the best way to keep the kingdoms from fracturing and seeing him as a usurper would be to keep the old houses in esteem and power as long as they bent the knee. Destroying old families - and seeding whatever resentment and power vacuums that would create - was probably viewed as just as much of a risk as keeping them around …provided they pledged loyalty. This continuity is likely also why he kept the old kingsguard like Baristan Selmy, even though he literally fought against him on the battlefield. To this point, Robert probably felt those that fought for the Targaryens had more honor and loyalty than those that waited and turned cloak.

Deke_HFX

Agreed,makes total sense.

Deke_HFX

Let me tell ya about the Corpse Queen and the Night King... Actually no, enjoy reading it in the books.

Flexorcist

Bobby B (Robert Baratheon used to really be forgiving) that is why Ned was so surprised/disappointed when Bobby B ordered the death of Dany.

Marcell

You heard that wrong when Robb was talking about The Greyjoy Rebellion. He didn't say that Ned thought Balon hadn't healed from the wounds of the Mad King. He said the Balon thought the seven kingdoms hadn't healed from the Mad King, and that's why he decided to rebel. Basically reiterating what Stannis said about Balon. So Ned wasn't being generous to Balon. P.S. please keeping doing these!! It's so great to watch react to them.

IcySystem

I don't think Ned was surprised by Roberts hatred towards Targaryens at all. Tywin gave Robert the bodies of Elia, Rhaenys, and baby Aegon. Robert was glad they were dead, but Ned called it murder, saying they were just children. Robert replied: “I see no babes, only dragonspawn.”. He has been like this for many years.

Kurtis Keith

Saying that a show that is an adaptation of a book series is meant to be watched without context is kind of crazy. I assume your experience with the show was without context, thus why you value that experience. That is totally valid. But that doesn't make it the "proper" viewing experience.

Mari

if i can make a suggestion and you just watch season 3 i think after that thats when they start getting deeper into book lore while the first three still help set the show up imo

fritz

WDYM? this is all book lore, this is your highly subjective opinion, that only after season 3 does it go "deep" into book lore, whatever that means

Mari

yes imo the last 5 history and lores goes deep into what they talk abt in the books while the first 3 is good for the show everything in the books is not in the show… one in season 5 history and lore literally tells the whole dance of the dragon story so yess the first 3 dont go too deep… also never said it was my highly suggested opinion just a suggestion this is why no one likes GoT fans

Cube Pylum

You're literally just making that up, if that was true why did they make histories and lore? It's all context and information that was in the original story it should be included in the adaptation too

Cube Pylum

I hope you keep doing these

Cube Pylum

"this is why no one likes GoT fans" why do you need to be such a pretentious jerk to someone who was just pointing that when all the information comes from the books it's weird to say some of it is deeper than rest