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James Thomas

Goddamnit George, here you go getting me all emotional over a man who roots his sister and pushes children out of windows.

James Thomas

To be fair to Robb, he did the morally righteous thing and did what Ned would've done. Unfortunately, doing a Ned means shooting yourself in the foot. So not an ego motivated decision but aging Robb up in the show does make it a bit less understandable from his perspective. Also this is the best episode of the show that isn't a penultimate or finale episode of the first 4 seasons.

Chris Mark

One of my favourite episodes of this show for Jamie's monologue alone!

Charlyn

There's no wayy! Think about how much the Starks HATEEE the Lannisters, the Lannisters are responsible Neds murder, its the whole reason the war Robb is currently fighting is happening, we as the audience know Loras is gay but Sansa doesnt so from her POV a marriage to the Tyrells are way better than the other option, and we can all agree she's not safe in Kings Landing which a marriage to Tyrion basically cements , sis is like 15/16😭😭😭😭

Flexorcist

Jaime had always long for the favor of great men. His father. Ned, Barristan etc… and they always looked at him with judgement. Poor guy

Funkystar

Killing karstark for treason was maybe not the right choice for the war bc they did leave him for killing thier lord but you can’t compare that to his uncle mistake with the mountain😂😂 not being smart and patient is not the same as killing innocent boys!! Cat on the other side is different bc she did commit treason when she freed Jamie.

JMP

“Reviled by all for my finest act” & ”it was the white cloak that soiled me not the other way around” - Jaime Lannister

Fhd

Jamie Jaime Jamie WHAT A MAN 💔

Funkystar

Hahaha as views Tyrion marrying Sansa isn’t the worst deal for us but you have to try and see it from Sansa perspective, marrying into the family that executed your father and is in open war with your brother. Made her little brother a cripple and her sister is missing all thanks to the Lannister. Sansa has no idea about lore’s sexuality and the Tyrell are a nicer family than the Lannister let’s be real😅 at least she isn’t becoming family with fucking Joffrey and Cersei💀 Tyrion also has to marry a child who is 15 years old, you like the Lannister they are an entertaining family no doubt but they are very bad people😭😭 brilliant move by Tywin tho marrying the key to the north and securing the the lords of the reach, Lannister would be impossible to stop ever.

IcySystem

S4 has way better episodes across the board. Almost every episode in 4 is better than this one.

Funkystar

I don’t blame Robb for executing the karstarks, you have become very used to how brutal this world is and unfortunately the starks are just to good of a people and being honorable, Ned would have made the same decision as Robb about the karstarks. And it’s also the right thing to do, he can’t pardon or let a person who willingly killed children. It was probably not the best move to make but I can’t say it’s the wrong move to make either. Sorry for writing so many comments but i love these discussions, Robb is also a teenager you have to remember that. This season shows us why experience is key and knowing the politics of it all bc Tywin is doing all the right things on that side and Robb has not lost a single battle but he is losing the war😔

Amir Gunn

Keep in mind Jorah is asking if Ser Barristan was on the small council because he's trying to find out if Ser Barristan knew Jorah was spying on Dany at the beginning because Varys and the small council are the only ones who would know about that. He REALLY doesnt want that getting out. It also makes it more hilarious how much he was grilling Ser Barristan over his loyalty in that scene

Luna

Princess Shireen for the queen! She would be the wisest, kindest and most wonderful queen in the seven kingdoms

Licha Reacts!

Yes! Def awkward and weird for Tyrion and Sansa, but from a Lannister perspective... that's an insane play But I think the Tyrells would've been a better fit for Sansa fs

Licha Reacts!

LMAOO IM SORRY!! I DEF think the Tyrells are a better fit for Sansa than the Lannister family but honestly I hate both options... 😭 (you make a very fair point about Sansa finally getting out of the capital tho!) from the Lannister POV tho... that's an insanely smart play that I have to give Tywin props for because he cooked with that one 😭😭

Licha Reacts!

hmm interesting! I def read it as ego because he seemed to snap both times when Karstark made little comments, and the camera shot on him clenching his hand told me he was pissed off (which led me back to his ego haha) But I could def be wrong!! I still stand with I don't think we should've killed him for that. I think Cat had a great idea regarding that matter and once again it hurts to see Robb not listen to her 😭😭😭 But yes this episode was AMAZING!!

Licha Reacts!

Agreed!! Like wow I cant excuse the Bran and Cersei stuff but that was a greattt way to get the audience to sympathize with Jamie on a wholeee different level!

Nikolai

47:05 "That's all it takes?" I'll be honest, Licha, your reputation would suffer in my book were you to sell men into slavery. 😆

Mari

imo jaimes telling of what happened forgives him (to me) of what he did to bran. i know it sounds crazy but if everyone looks at u as a monster when u did the right thing who do u become to save yourself a lil bit of ur pride… the monster everyone think of u as. and i think his travel w brienne taught him what it means to be honorable again.

James Thomas

I personally disagree, there are few other episodes are that this consistently strong on a moment to moment basis aside from s1. Don't get me wrong I still love s4, ep2 and ep9 of that season are all timer episodes, but I feel the middle of the season is weak. That's just my opinion though.

James Thomas

I mean to be fair, he doesn't go around murdering children as a habit. If Bran had told others what he had seen that would've meant the death of Jaime, Cersei and the kids. From his perspective he made a hard, but justifiable choice.

Mari

true im just saying i dont think he wouldve done it if ppl didnt see him as a monster already

Mari

and maybe forgive is a strong word for that scenario but he served king robert loyally for the most part for more time than he ever served the MAD king and everyone hated the king and ppl still see him as this horrible person??? i guess i’m just saying i understand him better.

Bahd Boy

Awesome can’t wait to watch this after work😍

Charlyn

😂😂😂, tbh I hear you too with hating both options Sansa deserves better than both of them even if the Tyrells are better let me not be biased 😭 & oh 100% Tywin is cooking with the idea the man just grinds my gears but hes such a great complex character, I'm enjoying these episodes so much

Temujin

I have great admiration and respect for Tywin. He's playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers and he's really good at it. At least Tyrion would treat Sansa well even if she doesn't realize it at first. Trouble is at this point she's still only 15 or 16 so still a child in many ways. Also everytime Balish you he's Sansa it creeps me out. Rob keeps making horrible choices. He's a great tactician on a battlefield but he just doesn't see enough of the big picture to be a great strategist. Tywin is so many moves ahead of Rob it's painful to watch. Can't wait to here your thoughts before the next episode, keep up the great work.

Coral of Bread

The cave where the Hound and Berric fought is the same cave where Ygritte and Jon boned

Coral of Bread

Estimates have Jamie “The Kingslayer” saving around 500,000-2,000,000 people 😳

PropheticSage

To be fair to Edmure he wasn't told of Robbs plan until after he took the Mill so Robb getting mad at him really makes no sense

Don Seaton

I f Bran were your son, would you still feel this way?

bloodraven

In Westeros, slavery is prohibited and frowned upon; it is not honorable to be a slave master, which is why Jorah's reputation fell so low and Ned had to kill him.

My_Cousin_Mose

Robb ordered Edmure to wait until the Mountain came to him. It still makes sense that Robb was angry. It's not treason like Licha said but he did disobey Robb's orders.

My_Cousin_Mose

You were not very impressed with Robb this episode haha. I don't think it was Lord Karstark's words that sealed his fate. Robb is too much like Ned and was honor bound to execute Lord Karstark. Yes he is a hypocrite when it comes to his mom. Most people would be I think especially a teenager. And Edmure should have been in more trouble yes, but he didn't betray Robb or murder anyone. He just fucked up.

Marcell

Edmure's orders were to wait. Then as Robb says, at that meeting he would've explained what the plan is and the entire strategy. Even if he saw a great opportunity, Edmure should've followed orders and just waited.

fritz

Robb should have had you as an advisor. I think if he heard your argument(s), he would have decided the other way. And he would probably already have won the war ;)

August Banks

From Robb’s perspective, his uncle disobeyed orders and ruined months of planning. From Edmure’s, he was defending the Riverlands from pillage. From my perspective, it would have taken 10 seconds to give Edmure the context that might have delayed Tywin’s army long enough to tip the balance at the Blackwater. Robb’s secrecy and assumption of blind obedience made him partly responsible for the blunder.

Timebomb_

Hell nah Robb is as rigid as his father

Deke_HFX

Choosing Bran vs my own children is an easy choice. Out the windiw he goes.

BloodyBen

A gay man who isn't going to touch her is infinitely better than a man twice her age, who she isn't attracted to, and whose family is warring with her family. Tyrion is in no way better than Loras when it comes to Sansa being married

Jermaine Lee

Karstark undermined Robb's leadership multiple times & killed kids 😒. There is no comparison to his mom. I wouldn't have listened to his irresponsible mom, incompetent cousin, or wife.

Paul

The problem with Robb and his father is they're cursed to live in a world filled to the brim with duplicitous schemers. They are honorable, honest, filled with integrity to a fault and sometimes to their bitter end. Robb didn't execute Lord Karstark because of ego, he did it because he feels compelled to deliver justice swiftly. Starks simply aren't conniving, even when they should be. It's sad how reflective of the real world this is though, isn't it?

Paul

I do think there's a strong difference in degree of crime between murdering two innocent boys, vs freeing a political prisoner.

Paul

I am in Stannis's camp on that. Jaime's action of saving the city should be commended, but it doesn't give him a free pass at attempted child murder.

My_Cousin_Mose

Sure I'd agree with that morally. As far as the war effort goes freeing Jaime was far more detrimental than killing the Lanister boys.

Andrew

Rob has honor but not enough to not marry another girl. Bro tries his best lmao