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*Unedited* First Time Watching GoT 4x7 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-10-24 19:34:47
Edited:
2025-11-07 22:15:46
Imported:
2026-09

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HOLY CRAPPP!!

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Flexorcist

If Yara lets the hounds chase them and Ramsey is awake. Then the whole Bolton guards will catch up and f them up. I would imagine that not a lot of commoners know the nobles or what they look like

kiki

Quick one on Yara's rescue mission: considering they were going right into the heart of the Boltons' stronghold, I'm not sure if they were willing to chance having to try and make a quick exit pursued by the Bolton forces while carrying an unconscious Theon back with them. They would be far too slow and whoever was tasked with carrying him would almost definitely get captured. I do agree that it makes more sense to try than to just leave him there, but at the same time when they set out they probably had planned on Theon not being Reek and being able to run away with them. As for the dog thing, absolutely not a chance in hell would they have been able to kill those dogs. One of the reasons why is a bit of a spoiler, but the other reason is that in close quarters like that (a narrow hallway) they would have been ripped to shreds immediately before they had a chance to draw a weapon or get any kind of distance. A large pack of vicious, angry hounds in a narrow pathway is not something you want to try and fight against. Yara chose to flee to protect her men, and she chose right.

fritz

No, I don't think it follows from what Tywin said, that Jamie has to father sons named Lannister, that Tywin knows about the incest. Actually, in my mind quite the opposite. If he thinks Cerceis kids are Robert's, then they would be Baratheons after the supposed father. But Tywin wants the Lannister name and his bloodline to live on, so a male Lannister needs to produce legitimite offspring, Jamie or Tyrion.

James Thomas

But she just stands there while he slowly opens the cage, SHIRTLESS!

Funkystar

That scene with oberyn and Tyrion is maybe my top 5 favourite scene in the whole show. Emotional and heartbreaking and then such a lift up when he decided to be Tyrion champion🥹 absolute perfection and to think that was Pedro parcels first acting scene in the show🤩 phenomenal performance! I shed a tear every single time just based of Tyrions facial expressions

Cat Indigo

About 12 years ago my gf at the time wanted a kitten, so of course I got her one. When we went to name her, we were watching this. I said to name her Aria, to give her that bad a$$energy. My ex vetoed that and named her Sansa. Now I'm kinda glad otherwise I don't think any glass, knick knack would be safe, you know, cats with wild energy.

IcySystem

Not the first time I heard/read the idea after this scene, that Tywin knew about the twincest. I think both theories make sense. A man so cunning and observant as Tywin (he knew Arya was a girl for example) would probably know about his children banging each other for 15+ years. Let's wait and see what the story might bring :)

fritz

But if there is basically no chance for Jamie to win, then both Jamie and Tyrion would die for nothing. At that point there was still a chance that Bronn would do it. Jamie knows that Bronn would have a much better chance. So it wouldn't even make sense for Tyrion, that Jamie fights for him. Maybe Jamie would have changed his mind, if Tyrion found no one shortly before the trial, who knows. I get though that the conversation could have been a bit different, even though the end result would have been the same.

IcySystem

Here is another one for your GoT vocabulary: Twincest

Michael West

First, love the Lannister fit. This episode was so good. So much going on. Epic scene with Tyrion and Oberyn. The whole story about baby Tyrion was heart wrenching. The second you clocked that Oberyn’s revenge was perfectly set up was vintage Licha. Such a great reaction. Then the ending scene with Littlefinger was the icing on the cake. Season 4 is so good.

Licha Reacts!

I definitely agree it just hurts my heart! I like the idea that he may have volunteered at the end tho 🥹

Licha Reacts!

Yess that scene was so good and definitely hurt my heart 🥹🥹

Marcell

I mean, the shirtless thing is neither here nor there. Ramsey's a good fighter on his own, plus he's surrounded by his men who aren't just gonna stand there while Yara attacks Ramsey. And even if she managed to kill Ramsey, she's still in the dreadfort surrounded by hundreds of Bolton men who are now aware of her presence, she's not making it out. This was supposed to be a stealth mission, and that goes out the window when Reek alerts everyone.

Marcell

Jaime admitted that he can't fight anymore without his right hand, and if he loses against the mountain, not only does he die but Tyrion dies too. It would be suicide for Tyrion to name Jaime, in addition to it killing Jaime also. If Jaime was whole, of course he would defend his brother. It's also unfair to expect people to line up to die for Tyrion, when we know he wouldn't do the same.

IcySystem

I have to respectfully disagree with you and that sequence is a total clown fiesta by the showrunners. I'm gonna go on a bit of a rant here mostly criticizing the show. First Yara sails across the entire continent south and north again... okay, I guess. But maybe she should bring more men or a better plan. Then sails miles up the river (weeping water) to the Dreadford without being noticed by anyone from the north? In the kennel the Ironborn are stacked shoulder-to-shoulder in a narrow hallway with shields, helmets and armor ready to fight. Meanwhile, shirtless-grinning-bleeding Ramsay jumps at them with a dagger and a mace? He should have instantly had 2 axes in his body in that scene. Somehow, both groups swap positions during the fighting with only half of them dying. Remember, Yara brought her best men. That’s not how an experienced, shielded group fights. The positioning and equipment here actually give them a huge advantage against the dogs, not a disadvantage. Narrow pathways aren’t bad against animals that small, when you are geared. And the key… seriously? A comically oversized key pulled from his pocket while grinning? Who designs dog kennels with lockable doors anyway? A simple latch or bar is more than enough to keep dogs in. As for the claim that they "absolutely could not kill the dogs": how many were there, really? I counted one visible dog, heard two, maybe three tops. An Ironborn Reaver with a shield and battle axe isn’t going to be fazed by that. Worst case, a dog lunges for someone’s weapon hand - the guy next to him crushes it with his shield or weapon. If a dog bites an armored leg, that’s nothing a sharp axe can’t fix. These dogs aren’t armored - they’re meat and bone. The threat is far less than you or the show make it seem. The moment Ramsay opens the door it cuts to the Ironborn running on the shore. You think you would get away like that? They climbed the wall with a grappling hook up earlier. How do you get down, when Boltons are chasing you maybe 3 meters behind you? They are in leather armor (or shirtless) and probably run faster than you. They would just cut the rope or shoot arrows at you. So in that regard I have to agree, carrying Theon with you was probably not an option without killing the boltons in the kennel first. Bottom line is: the show's portrayal is dramatic, not tactical or believable at all.

IcySystem

@Marcell Have you seen how Ramsay charged into the Ironborn? He was dead on my screen and he should have been really.

NF

You can't marry your way into possession of a bloodline castle/inheritance. So technically, The Vale/The Eyrie belongs to Robyn Arryn, not Littlefinger. But what characters can do, and Tyrion mentioned it this episode, is they can rule in the name of their spouse or child. This is what Lysa was doing as she was Lysa Tully and married Jon Arryn, but when Jon Arryn died, she became regent over Robyn since he was too young to rule in his own name. But Robyn is the Lord of this kingdom.

swilkins08

Regarding Jamie not fighting for Tyrion, worth remembering that Jamie has spent the last months getting smacked around by Bronn, who he thinks of as the other option. He's not saying "You're not worth me fighting", he's saying "I'm not your best chance to live". Neither he nor Tyrion knew Bronn will refuse in the next scene.

IcySystem

I think it makes a lot of sense for Jaime to fight. Imagine what Cersei and Tywin would do to save their golden boy Jaime. They would probably poison the mountain, bribe him to lose or find some loophole to save Jaime. Maybe order the Mountain to lose on purpose and cancel the fight early and allow mercy for the Mountain? A trial by combat does not, necessarily, need to be fought to the death. Depending on the way it's done, that would also push Jaime's reputation as a great fighter. Cersei could probably even unname the mountain and send in some dummy for Jaime. Kill Tyrion in a different way.

NF

I don't think Jaime's decision was about him being afraid of losing his life. We've seen that Jaime is brave, not a coward, and will put his life on the line to save those he cares about, for instance jumping in a pit with a Bear to save Brienne. I just think his training proved to him he stands no chance against any trained fighter, let alone the Mountain. He probably thought Tyrion would be better off asking Bronn. As Jaime said, Tyrion needs to be a realist about this. I imagine even admitting that out loud had to be tough for Jaime as it really crystalizes for him that he can't swordfight his way through obstacles anymore. He has to find a way to matter beyond fights.

IcySystem

You are not imagining the Oberyn things, something was said, yes. Shall I quote it or give you the episode?

Licha Reacts!

Yes pleaseee!! A quote would be great! Sometimes I feel like I get lines mixed up with each other because of the editing so I start to question myself haha ♡

IcySystem

S4 E5 OBERYN: Which joke is that? CERSEI: You're a prince of Dorne. A legendary fighter. A brilliant man feared throughout Westeros. But you could not save your sister. I'm a Lannister. Queen for nineteen years. Daughter of the most powerful man alive. But I could not save my son. What good is power if you cannot protect the ones you love? OBERYN: We can avenge them. CERSEI: Yes, we can avenge them. Also S4 E1 DORNISH LORD: The prince's health forces him to remain at Sunspear. He sends his brother Prince Oberyn to attend the royal wedding in his stead. TYRION: (Nods.) Yes, the king will be delighted to enjoy the company of a warrior as renowned as Prince Oberyn at his wedding feast.

Mel

I agree, that what i think Tywin is getting at too.

Spritzgulasch

I don't think Littlefinger loved Cat at all. He loved the opportunity that came with a marriage with her. Same with Lysa or Sansa - I really doubt he knows what love really is in the first place. He just loves to use that word in his speeches but doesn't actually know the meaning of it.

IcySystem

Let us take a moment of silence to remember Flysa. Her heart was not the only thing that was broken that day. I loved her like a mother in law. She always made sure her son was well fed. She fell³ for Littlefinger. He really let her down. RIP in pieces - tiny pieces. On the bright side... Robin can finally get his vaccinations :D

IcySystem

Not at all, huh? Why would he lie to Ros when he is very honest otherwise in the scene - basically telling her about his plan to f*ck Ned. Or risk his life in a duel with Brandon Stark? Littlefinger is one of the nice guys sadly in the friendzone ;) But jokes aside... I'm very sure he loved Cat more than anything. It's his one weakness and tragic humanizing quality. Why would he tell Lysa in her last moments? Was that only show for Sansa, you think? Season 1: Ros: I do believe my lord's in love. Petyr Baelish: For many years. Most of my life really. Season 2: LITTLEFINGER: Cat, I've I've loved you since I was a boy. It seems to me that fate has given us this chance

Monet Shanta

From my understanding Jamie is lord commander of the kings guard. So he would be fighting on behalf of the king not Tyrion.

Rob

Maybe don't include the part about Jamie not fighting in the youtube edit to save yourself some pain. I know you're just a girl but if you need to understand why try writing a paragraph with your left hand. Then maybe consider entering a writing competition where the penalty for losing is death...against the strongest writer in the world. Then imagine someone saying you suck and you're disappointing for not entering.

Kayla

She said that she understands it from Jaime's perspective. Two things can be true at once. You can understand why someone is making the decision they are, and still want a different outcome from the scenario. Also it's her first time watching, she's allowed to have differing opinions from the vast majority of viewers. She doesn't know the ins and outs like all of us do.

Rob

Of course she can have her own opinion, this is just mine. If you were triggered by me saying she's just a girl that's a meme she has said a few times herself. It's hard to have a popular channel on the internet without either thick skin like a Stark or political savvy like a Lannister. She has said herself she likes the Lannister's the most. So I suggest that she edit that part out unless she wants to grow thick skin too because it is kind of a dumb opinion, (and she is definitely smart enough to realize that).

My_Cousin_Mose

You still work a normal job? Raise your prices lol!

IcySystem

I think you’re misunderstanding what Kayla was saying. She wasn’t triggered - she was pointing out that two things can be true at once, which you seem to have missed. Licha said several times that she understands why Jaime didn’t fight. There’s no reason she should hide her opinion. It’s actually refreshing to see a unique perspective. Her reactions are valuable because they’re authentic, even when they don’t match fandom consensus. And honestly, it’s not controversial to have the Lannisters as favorites. They include four of the most complex and brilliantly written characters in the show - Tyrion, Cersei, Jaime, and Tywin. It's a testament of her great understanding of the show and it proves she understands nuance. As for Jaime, it’s not even unreasonable to imagine him choosing self-sacrifice. Think of Katniss in The Hunger Games - self-sacrifice is one of the most heroic acts possible. Knights in Westeros vow to defend the innocent and protect the weak, so it's thematically consistent. Consistent for Jaime? Maybe if Tyrion had no other options and Jaime thought he had a small chance. And knowing Jaime and the Lannisters, they might even find a way to manipulate the fight and turn it to their advantage. I shared the ideas in another post. Basically the idea is to manipulate the fight one way or another (bribe, poison etc.). If Jaime wins, that would even boost his fighting reputation in a time where it's questionable. If you disagree, you lack imagination :)

fritz

Not sure Cercei would do anything, at this point killing Tyrion could be more important to her than saving Jamie. As for Tywin, sure, he would probably do something to save Jamie. But in the exact same scene you hear Jamie saying, Tywin would sacrifice anyone, even him. So, he does not think Tywin would care to that level or at least he is not sure about it. And for Jamie to make the decision it does not matter what Tywin thinks, but Jamies interpretation of Tywin. Also don't forget we as a viewer have seen some scenes with Tywin that Jamie isn't aware of. So, since at that point there are possible other options, it would just be suicide for Jamie to immediately volunteer, without certain assurances.

Cole Troutman

lol idk if she's watched the next one yet. But in s3 Jamie says there's maybe 3 people in the country who could beat him, one of those people were Oberyn

Timebomb_

I disagree. At some point Jaime says “I’ve never seen him fight” meaning he has no idea about his skills. Two of the three he was talking about were definitely Barristen, (who he thinks is still in the realm) and the Blackfish. The third is probably Sandor or Gregor.

Timebomb_

I think if it got to the point where Tyrion literally had to fight the mountain himself, Jaime would’ve stepped in before the trial. It was more of a pragmatic “I won’t be able to win this for you.” When he told Tyrion he can’t fight.

Timebomb_

That’s not how it works. In a trial by combat, a nobleman can elect anyone to fight in their stead, and as long as they agree, anyone can fight in the stead of anyone. George hasn’t elaborated on the Law too much, but I’m pretty sure even the king himself can fight in a trial if he accepts, there’s no law against it as far as I’m aware.

Timebomb_

Littlefinger developed a complex for Cat when they were children because he grew up reading stories about underdog lowborn knights wooing beautiful highborn princesses. Combine that with the ‘games’ they played and it’s easy to see how he developed those feelings. His dual with Brandon Stark broke him out of that and turned him into the callous person he is today. But the complex never went away. But you’re right, it’s not love. It’s the obsession with a dream that he thinks could make him happy.

My_Cousin_Mose

Yes this is a new and the final recast for The Mountain. He is Hafþór Björnsson the 2018 World's Strongest Man winner.

My_Cousin_Mose

I feel his love more of an obsession than real love. I'm not sure how you could love a woman and treat her and her family like he did to Cat. He made no effort to get Sansa out of Kings Landing until after Cat died. In season 2 he lies to Cat about Arya being alive and in kings Landing. Again not the actions of someone in love.

Michael Bond (AKA codemonkey85) - PKMDS Developer

My read on Varys looking at the throne is that he simply wants the best person to have it, for the sake of the realm. I think he is dedicating his life to ensuring whoever rules the seven kingdoms is the best ruler they can have. And I really don’t think he thinks it’s him.

IcySystem

yeah, I can agree with that. I wouldn't even say my hypotheticals are the most likely. It's just possibilities or considerations with low chance. I just feel like people who have seen the show get so tunnel-visioned on the actual plot, that they become hostile to creative thinking that doesn't go in the right direction of the plot.