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*Unedited* First Time Watching GoT 4x8 (Patreon)

Published:
2025-10-27 21:30:04
Edited:
2025-11-10 22:15:40
Imported:
2026-09

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I never in my life thought I would see something like that....

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Scott S

Congrats on the new camera, super generous gift!!

Licha Reacts!

I agree!! It was an amazing gift! I'm so excited about it!

Flexorcist

I guess in Jaime’s defense, what if your brother is accused of killing your kid?

Patty Lenz

Come to the dark side Sansa, we have lemon cake.

Funkystar

Alright the Jon snow one i understood bc Jon snow was just hanging around in S2 and but Tyrion dying not having in impact hurts my soul😭😭 he is the best of the Lannister come on now without him kinglanding storyline would suck bc Tywin wasn’t there until S3 and Jamie came back in S4, Cersei would not be alba to carry the kinglanding storyline im sorry but no way, he owned S2 this season he has been a prisoner soo what he is expected to do🤷🏾‍♂️ remember S2 Tyrion and also he brings the comedy justice for Tyrion🙏🏾 Tyrion has been consistenty too 3 characters in the show the whole series imma let you dwell on that statement for a while licha

Cat Indigo

What does Tyrion do for the plot? He drinks and he knows things.

IcySystem

Brace yourself for the Tyrion simps, LOL. How dare you not caring that much about their favorite character. This is so hilarious :D I love that you speak your mind. Keep being real! Waiting for the guy, who suggests you better cut this out of the YT-edit to avoid that shitstorm. 😂😂

Paul Huffman

It only partially hurts to hear you a bit indifferent towards Tyrion lol, but at the same time I know where you're coming from. Love me some Tyrion, but in the show, who he has been the whole show up to now has sort of been set it stone. We see a lot more growth and layers from pretty much every one else.

IcySystem

He has more layers than the onion knight and his growth is a sensitive subject.

Licha Reacts!

hehe Yea! I don't mean it in a bad way but I do feel like his character has kind of stalled plot wise so I'm just thinking of plot significance if he dies! It would still be a bummer to see him go though! 😂♡

Paul Huffman

No yeah, definitely know what you mean! I'm just over here getting a kick out of your pure disgust for Littlefinger. Lol.

IcySystem

Rough when she despises your favorite character. Littlefinger is just misunderstood. Such a nice guy with passionate love.

Deke_HFX

Bring on any and all shit storms

Timebomb_

Orson’s Beatles is one of my favourite scenes in the show. Tyrion is talking about the ‘gods’ as in the nature of humanity and the universe itself, but he’s also talking about his father, about Aegon the conquerer and every other person in history who sacrificed others for their own ambitions. It’s the most important question in ASOIAF, and arguably in real history… you read about all these atrocities and you wonder, why is the world this way? Does it have to be? Are we fated to spark conflict wherever we go?

Alexander Ocean

Haha what does Tyrion do for the plot??? His death wouldn't hit hard?? Noooooo Licha 😭😭😭

Chris Mark

RIP my fav Oberyn😔

Timebomb_

Tbf, what has Tyrion done in the last two seasons? He did some stuff as master of coin, he married Sansa… and he got imprisoned. Not the most exciting character arc in the story

dFlect

Are you sure about that? I remember someone talking few years ago about that scene in youtube and it was said that the showrunners wrote that scene with the desire of talk shit about some other producer named Orson (Or something like that, cant remember exactly). I mean, I also really liked that scene back in the day until I found out this, thats why am asking you.

IcySystem

Interesting, I always thought Tyrion was talking about beetles, not the famous 60s rock band. Jokes aside, I think the scene is mainly about the randomness and cruelty of life and death, rather than about humans acting with logical motives. This stands in contrast to Orson and the gods. Licha did a great job picking up on that. Comparing this to Tywin or Aegon completely misses the point, in my opinion. Tywin has clear motives, such as preserving the family legacy. Aegon had his reasons for conquest. Their actions are not random; they are understandable to Tyrion. He even says, “Turns out, far too much has been written about great men and not nearly enough about morons.” That line alone suggests the scene is not about great men like Tywin or Aegon. “Father droned on about the family legacy, and I thought about Orson’s beetles. I read the histories of Targaryen conquests. Did I hear dragon wings? No. I heard ‘khuu, khuu, khuu,’ and I still couldn’t figure out why he was doing it.” The point is that Tyrion does not think about the family legacy or the Targaryen conquest, because he understands those things. What he cannot understand is Orson. Randomness, cruelty and ambitions are certainly big parts of ASOIAF, but I don't think it's the most important question of the story. And if it was, you shouldn't tell the reactor in season 4.

IcySystem

@dFlect You are right. This conflict aparently started about 20 years ago when D&D worked on Ender's Game and Orson started throwing shade their way. Orson Scott Card wrote this in 2011 after the release of season 1: "I've now watched the first two episodes of HBO's adaptation of George R.R. Martin's glorious epic fantasy A Game of Thrones, and I must confess to disappointment bordering on disgust. They poured so much money into a lavish production, and engaged the services of so many talented actors, that it's deplorable that they're working with a script that is so very, very bad. [...]" While Orson seems to be a c*nt, so are D&D honestly, not only for this petty revenge scene.

IcySystem

Good point. He is also kingsguard and would defend someone who is accused of killing the king. What a mess. That's what happens when you bang your sister.

Timebomb_

I guess there’s something to be said about independent interpretation. I actually think *you* miss the point in a huge way. Tyrion himself admits that Orson isn’t smashing the Beatles for no logical reason, he’s doing it for a very particular reason, one that Tyrion can’t understand despite the fact that it should be so simple… it’s because he wants to. Is that supposed to be illogical? dim-witted? chaotic? Of course not, it’s the most logical concept in all of human history. You say that bringing up Tywin and Aegon is supposed to contrast Orson, and life with its ‘randomness’ but I completely disagree. Tywin, Orson, Aegon, The Gods, nature and fate are all the same. There is no ‘chaos’ in life, almost everything is predetermined, things just *happen.* Aegon didn’t conquer Westeros because he had to do it, he did it because he likes smashing Beatles. His rock was Balerion. Why would Tyrion be questioning randomness and cruelty and what-not, when he is in a position because of the actions of his house members? Tywin? Cersei? Everyone in Westeros? They don’t act with random cruelty, according to you, they act with logic. But it’s logic that, fundamentally, can’t be understood. Why Tywin is the way he is, why he hates Tyrion just for being born. Why Cersei blames Tyrion despite all logic being pointed against it. As a human being, you can understand. But if you read enough into it… it doesn’t make any sense. That’s what Tyrion was thinking about.

Brian

Truthfully I was so wasn’t that sad when Oberyn got watermeloned bro made the number one mistake and got owned because of it so how people felt bad for him is beyond me but Pedro played another amazing role

DEKU

Tyrion is the best character in the series according to 95% of Game of Thrones fans. May God help you with them For your information, I am one of them.🤣🤣

qweXz

Bro lost to plot😭😭

dFlect

"Today is not the day I die" -Oberyn, the day he died. I never get tired of this quote 😂😭

My_Cousin_Mose

Regarding the Jaime thing do you talk about it or not talk about it- Always the answer is yes please talk about it! I'm here watching you to hear all of your thoughts and to see your genuine reactions. Even if you hate my favorite character or movie its ok. Just please tell me why so I can tell you exactly why you are wrong lol! And I think Cersei would let Jaime die if he volunteered for Tyrion but I think you are right and Tywin would have intervened. He could have made some sort of deal to force Cersei to pick someone besides The Mountain if Jaime swore not to stand for Tyrion.

Funkystar

Well he got framed for killing the king in episode 2 so he can’t do much but his scene always are top notch in S4, S3 was his weakest season bc of the Tywin return and all but without him no one would care for the crown storyline bc there are no other likeable characters in kinglanding.

IcySystem

"There is no ‘chaos’ in life, almost everything is predetermined" You seem rather set on determinism in life. I'm curious what you think about chaos theory and intrinsic randomness in quantum mechanics? I get your point, you go deep, reject free will and boarder on nihilism. Everything is kind of the same. Tywin, Orson, Aegon, The Gods, nature and fate are all the same. That might be true for the real world. I don't believe in free will for the real world myself. There's just no place for it between randomness, determinism or a combination of the two. However, do you think an author like GRRM would reject free will in a story that's about the human heart in conflict with itself. He said it so many times in interviews: "I've always agreed with William Faulkner - he said that the human heart in conflict with itself is the only thing worth writing about. I've always taken that as my guiding principle, and the rest is just set dressing." - George RR Martin. Your interpretation would remove a lot of meaning from the characters. Is it even possible to have morally good, bad or grey characters in your interpretation? How can this be "the most important question in ASOIAF", when it undermines the guiding principle and isn't even written by GRRM but two hacks like D&D? What would it mean to break a vow in a deterministic universe. Can you hold it against them? Is it their fault? All these questions lose their meaning. btw: Why do you still call them the Beatles with a capital B? 😂

VelvetTornado (Enrico)

I will probably never heal from that final scene in this episode. 😭 I was rooting so much for Oberyn and felt so bad for Tyrion. 💔 As always, thumbs up for the great authentic reactions. 👍🏼

James Thomas

OHHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIT WATCHERS NEXT! I have my issues with this season but ep9 is probably my favourite episode of the whole show, right up with baelor, kissed by fire and blackwater. GET HYPE!!!

James Thomas

I hate to say it but I can get kind of agree with your view on Tyrion. Obviously, hes a phenomenal character, pretty much the main character of the story, and I can definitely understand why he's a fan favourite but i've never found him as compelling as Jaime or Cersei.

AboFawzi

😭😭😭

fritz

"This episode was insane, but so good" - You are starting to repeat yourself ;). Season 4 is one of the best.

SpacePotato

Oof went to watch the next one and realized I finally caught up 🥲

Coral of Bread

So Orson… was drawn up to make fun of a critic of the show. The shows creators are kinda pieces of shit… so to speak. Example? The beetle story. When you know they did that ON PURPOSE just because they are petty babies… it’s disgusting. Stupid shoe horned plot just to be massive bullies. Yay. What was it all about Tyrion? Stupid plot devices idk

Michael West

First off, love the new camera. The scene with Oberyn is one of those that gets burned into your brain and never forget. I still shiver when I think about it. Welcome to “the game” Dark Sansa. Arya laughing at the Hound is great. Summer Child Licha “ they will never kill Ned Stark. Fast forward, four seasons: Tyrion’s going to die! Well, if he dies he dies, no biggie. You’ve come a long way. I know others have said it, but the way your mind works is amazing. The way you quickly dissect all the “plottin” is masterful. Your reactions are so much fun. Thanks for letting us come along for the ride.

Funkystar

You have issues im all ears please tell me😭😭 S4 is elite

Fyre SPell

I believe it is written almost exactly the way the scene showed in the books. Am I wrong?

Fyre SPell

New camera is amazing. Once again loved the reaction.

James Thomas

Don't get me wrong it's still a top 3 season I just personally think it suffers from having to adapt the back half of storm. When it's accurate its phenomenal but the show stuff doesn't have a whole lot going for it in terms of actual interesting developments. Jon's story in the middle of the season doesn't amount to much beyond action. In fact from like ep3-6 i'd say is a big downturn but the rest of the season makes up for it. Giving extra time to the trial, arya and sandor and oberyn however is great though. I don't wanna waffle too much but those are a few of my issues.

WanderingBecauseLostLol

I enjoy the fact they had Sam promise Gilly that he won't die in the very next episode.

dFlect

There is no Orson Lannister in the books, I believe that the scene only appears in the show

dFlect

Shiiiiit never thought about that hahaha ma boy Samwell is really cooked isn't he? 😭😭

dWr

ngl, sophie turner is absolutely gorgeous 😍

Timebomb_

George can write a story about one thing, and its readers can interpret it in a different way. But even regardless of individual interpretation, the best kind of writing comes from equally contrasting views, not just ones in favour of a dogma. Maybe by the end of the series, Tyrion will understand why… or maybe he won’t, it doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is what HE believes, it matters even more than what’s true. Me personally, I do think most things, or everything in life is predetermined… but I don’t *know* that it is, and that’s my hope. You can talk about things like Quantum Stochasticity, but those things are like formless beings that might bear an affect on our lives, yet it’s an affect that I can’t possibly base any belief system off of, so I ignore them. If the human heart is doomed to be forever in conflict with itself, than so is free will and determinism. British autocorrect.

Amanda Hill

It’s always so frustrating to see Oberyn lose because he’s trying to get that confession. But once people broke down to me that Oberyn wanted the confession because, as we know, it would have implicated Tywin and Dorne could have declared war against the Lannisters officially.