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The Abyss of Life | Shogun: 1x8 | FULL Reaction (Patreon)

Published:
2026-06-22 22:10:22
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2026-06

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I DON'T LIKE THIS PLAN

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David Trumble

The art of Shogun is to show you values and choices that feel unthinkable to you but that make total sense to the characters in question. For Hiromatsu, sacrificing his life in that pantomime, of his own volition, was no different than giving it on the battle field in a way that would have caused greater loss of life and not achieved the objective. He was a soldier for his lord, and he was a chess piece that had to fall for the chess game to enter check. As humans, we despair for his choice, but it's not simply that Torunaga was ruthless, it's that, for Hiromatsu, he was in a war no matter where he was, and he went out on a battlefield of his own choosing.

Alecta's Shadow

Thank you for the reaction, and for sharing your emotions with us. It's a hard-hitting episode. The show did a great job by putting us in the same position as his vassals, refusing to believe his surrender is real until we are presented with what looks like incontrovertible evidence - Hiromatsu's sacrifice. Only after that we get clued in that this was part of the plan to sell the surrender as believable.

Soopa

Brutal. 2 episodes to go...plots within plots within plots.

PP82

You already learned why Ochiba hates Toranaga near the end of episode six. She believes he masterminded the plan that resulted in Mariko's father, Akechi Jinsai, killing her father (the despotic ruler of Japan before the Taiko). And he absolutely did. She's not wrong.