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Welcome to the "Battle That Never Was"... Henry VIII vs Hillary Clinton.

[This video is for Patron eyes only. No sharing to the wider fanbase or there will be trouble]

Here’s a little backstory, from what I can remember, which is not everything…

It was sometime in Oct/Nov 2011. Lloyd had just quit his job at a theater to work full time on ERB; we got a larger crew, some new producers, the whole machine had got bigger.  

We wrote, recorded, and filmed a chunk of new battles, and that itself was a first for us. We had always made them one at a time from start to finish. I think this particular chunk was Nice Peter vs EpicLLOYD, Vader vs Hitler 2, Henry VIII vs Hillary Clinton and Masterchief vs Leonidas.

So this video was slated to be Season 2 Episode 2. At the time, we felt pretty good about the writing but looking back it’s pretttttty dated. I still think Shay Carl did an amazing job overall and the actress playing Hillary Clinton did a rock solid Hillary Clinton impression. 

But, right there is where it all starts to crumble. A rock solid Hillary Clinton acting impression is pretty irritating, at best. It certainly doesn’t lend itself well to making a good catchy song.  

It was during the music editing and mixing process that I first started to realize the truth. I just could not make the song sound good. I was trying every trick I knew at the time, including more chops and screws than we normally use (“J-J-J- John McCain” type stuff)

Nothing was working. It just wasn’t a good song.

Especially when I looked at the upcoming running order: Vader Hitler 2 , Bad Song, Masterchief vs Leonidas. It made no sense for the series, no sense for the channel, and no sense for the fans.

We made the decision to shelve the battle, always thinking we’d find the right time to release it to the right people somehow. 

Here is that right time, and you are one of those right people. I hope you enjoy this peek into our process, and I think you’ll understand why the decision was made. :) 

-nice peter

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Henry VIII vs Hillary Clinton

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Comments

Foxdoc

Well, that was certainly... something

Eric Forsman

Press F for Peter in that video

Jamfris

Yeah, all right… it's not BAD baaaaaaaad… but it's not good either. i don't really like the personality of Hilary. I prefer the one of the trump battle by far.

Mx Alan

Buuuuuuuuuuut Henry VIII isn't off the table for a battle right?

Reddishf0x

Welp, Hilary could have tried... I guess. But it shows how far you have come. Because goddam, I still love the Joker one. Looks like Nancy Pelosi may be giving you some upcoming material :).

Laxxius

well it wouldn't be the worst ERB if it was released. Definitely towards the bottom though.

Jad Seif

Sorry, but I don’t think this battle is terrible. It’s not good, we have better battles, but it’s not terrible.

erb

No he's not off the table. :)

Patrick Munroe

Finally! I've been waiting for the truth for years! Ever since season 2 aired without any Shaycarl, who was teased at the end of season 1. Wow!

James Seeley

Vader cs hitler for fucks sake

Zontafer

This was actually super cool and really different. I love the way Shaycarl played Hillary especially at the end, Henry VIII was awesome too, and in terms of the lyrics themselves, they were great and it all had potential. It felt like, the vision was there for sure, just felt kind of off beat at times!

PaperAlchemist

Thank you for sharing! This was awesome to see how you've learned and grown from this battle and the thought process behind deciding to shelve it (which couldn't have been easy). Nice to know if you ever bring Henry VIII back you've got a dead ringer for him ready to go too :3

Sean

Hoo Lordy it’s like finding videos of those old elementary school plays you were in as a kid

erb

And so it should ;)

erb

You want vader vs hitler 4?

Ben Dow

I don't think it was one of the greats... but there were a bunch of things I liked about this (some of the lines were pretty good).

M.F. Cortez

I’ll take this secret to the grave. You have my word. If you ever do choose to bring Rodham back, make her sound like DMX or something. Just say “ah fuck it, we don’t need to be true to the character.” Give her some true gangsta rap lyrics about murder and selling drugs. Nothing to do with her opponent. That would be hilarious! Try that once. Or don’t. Or do it for patrons only. 😉

James Seeley

Yes lmfao. I always post it haha. Another boba vs deadpool would be tits too

Bryan Bennica

Well, for what it’s worth, it was a good try. Are you going to do another Trump one?

Sean Perkins

I've had several ideas have been sitting on since season one. ERB: oddjob vs kung Lao The mask vs beetleguise Inspector gadget vs pink panther Alpha 5 vs C3PO machete vs zohan Loki vs Ares Dennis mitchell vs kevin mcalester Ace ventura vs cruella de'vil I get that some of them might not be very good but I think some of these ideas would also be amazing. Like Ace Ventura versus Cruella de Vil?

The Nuclear Reactor (edited)

Comment edits

2026-10-18 20:00 How do I add a battle suggestion again ? Sorry I forgot.
2020-02-07 05:13

erb

Current round of makethisbattle is closed. But new round will open up in a few days. But you can post suggestions here. We read everything.

The Nuclear Reactor

I’ve had the idea for a long while of the most beautiful mortal in history (supposedly) vs the most beautiful immortal! Helen of Troy vs Aphrodite! I really really hope you guys will pick that soon! I want to Troy isn’t a must but Aphrodite is! Although I think the concept would be good with Helen of Troy

Paul Saxberg

I've seen worse. I've written worse. I agree, it's nowhere near ERB's current standards, but it's cool to get this glimpse back in time anyways!

Asher Rasco

Haha i got my cringe goggle on. Let's go! **Quick update. It was decent actually. That hillary voice was on point I was impressed. I think the only thing the song was missing was "dynamic flows" the pace was even throughout the song. I can tell you guys worked hard on slow to quick transitions since. Thanks for releasing this from the crypt. :)

Daniel Allen Barnes

Some lines were funny but the execution was not good pun kind of intended

erb

Not sure yet. We will obviously consider it.

Callum Stott

Brilliant prequel to Trump vs Hillary 10/10

GWSTREAMS

If y’all still have King Henry the 8th on the table then I think King Henry the 8th be Queen Elizabeth the 2nd would be cool to see.

Augustus Gigous

I came across an early version of this video on YouTube many years ago. If this is a re-edit, well done. If it's possible, perhaps do a redemption video, rewrite and reshoot it.

MaviKartal2003

Not the best ERB but still enjoyable. As a S2 ERB

ConsumerBreak App

Wow, really interesting to watch! I can see why you chose to shelf it, almost feels like an early Season 1 ERB. But thanks for sharing! Any reason you didn't bring this woman back for Trump v Hilary? Both Hilary's were rock solid impressions regardless.

Binnoc9

Imagine if King Henry VIII takes on King George III in a rap battle

RachelVarious

Definitely needs an update. I feel this could be really good with the care and attention 2020 ERB can bring

Phoenician

Another sequel battle would be awesome, but I'd throw my vote for a duo other than Vader vs. Hitler. Spread the sequel love!! d:

Phoenician

Just have Abe and his Eagle throw down on Donald in some promo/ERB news bit -- save us all time and the trouble, lol.

Last Rookie

But what else would they gave to say about each other that hasn't already been said in the 3 we have? I think the only one who would have any new material against would be Vader, since his canon is ever changing. There's maybe a couple things about Hitler left to say, but he's hard to make new material without going back on the old.