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154 - When Dobson Met Bundy… (feat. I Hate James Dobson) [Whit’s Endless Summer 38] (Patreon)

Published:
2024-09-04 06:00:05
Edited:
2025-04-22 13:27:13
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2026-06
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Jake from the I Hate James Dobson podcast joins the lads for a Whit’s Endless Summer: Origins as they zero in on Focus on the Family founder James Dobson and his interview with one of the most vicious monsters in American history: Ted Bundy. Topics include the psychopathy of Bundy, the narcissism of Dobson, and the horrific societal implications of trying to ban Santa from your phone sexline.

I Hate James Dobson: Join therapists Jake (a former Evangelical) and Brooke (who knows almost nothing about Evangelical culture) as they read and tear apart Dobson’s works. Get ready to laugh, cry, and rip your hair out as we explore the very many reasons why I Hate James Dobson.

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Media Referenced in this Episode:

The Playlist

WHMB-TV Indianapolis Ted Bundy Final Interview & Panel Discussion, 1989

January 23, 1989 Dr James Dobson press conference on eve of Ted Bundy’s execution

Dr. James Dobson Interview About Pornography & Ted Bundy

Dr James Dobson - Pornography: Addictive, Progressive and Deadly

Ted Bundy Dr. James Dobson on the 30th anniversary of Bundy's execution

The Research

“3 state attorneys leaving: Tanner didn't run from controversy” by Dana Treen. The Florida-Times Union. Jan. 4th, 2009.

“Anti-pornography groups reportedly got profits from Ted Bundy tape” Tampa Bay Times, April 7, 1990

Attorney General's Commission on Pornography, Final Report

The Historical Timeline of Focus on the Family

Defending the Devil : My Story as Ted Bundy's Last Lawyer by Polly Nelson. William Morrow and Company. 1952.

James Dobson's War on America by Gil Alexander-Moegerle. Prometheus Books. 1997.

“Last Bundy Interview Called ‘Con Game’” Deseret News, September 12, 1989

The Only Living Witness: The True Story of Serial Sex Killer Ted Bundy by Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth. Authorlink Press. 1999.

“The Root of James Dobson’s Political Power Is Decades of Parenting Advice” by Sarah McCammon. Time. July 25th, 2024.

The Stranger Beside Me by Ann Rule. Pocket Books. 2009.

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Commercial: “The Interview” // Written by A.J. Ditty // Starring Zac Moon as “Ted Tindale” and James Fouhey as “Kerrin J. Wyatt” // Feat. “Fleetwood Mac - The Chain: violin cover” by Steve Bingham.

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Comments

LogalogJack

At work, deciding to listen to aio for some self-flagellating reason for the first time in months, 10 minutes in I accidentally sweep up a leaflet about “why jesus died” and immediately got the notification for this episode. Someone is watching me and I’m scared. But also hella excited for this topic

Zipzapzop

A note about the comics panic most of it’s claims about comic books came from another shitty psychologist fredich wertham and his book seduction of the innocent

Amy Godliman

Wait a minute, RAYFORD Florida? What is this?

BarFly

Bundy says "p'rnography" in the same way as the guy from Every Young Man's Battle. Sometimes Dobson does too.

Okie From Muskogee

It seems the Dobson library still has an article about "serial killer warns the world about pornography," so Dobson is still living in his little mirror world. Not that I'd expect anything otherwise. Psychologically, he NEEDS to see the world as he sees it and not how it actually is. His own self image depends on it.

Rosey Armstrong

It's a big big yard where we can play rez ball. Yes, that was for Brian and Brian only

Lain of the Wired

his quitting the APA over being gay getting declassified as a mental illness is so fascinating to me cuz it really puts him squarely in the old school idea of the purpose of psychiatry being for social control rather than mental well-being.

J

Tbf we later found out Bill Clinton was actually a horrible libertine

Ben

Charles Keating positing the existence of a Special Homosexual Task Force of Obvious Fraud Office’s US branch.

Rosey Armstrong

Awww fuck y'all just cracked open the memory of Life on the Edge. Luckily so far all I remember is the front cover

Dergon

WAITAMINUTE Ted said his parents were "focused" on their kids! shockeditalianmovieguy.gif Bundy masterminded the whole thing from the beginning! From Odyssey to Money Matters with Larry Burkett...

Breathplay

The WHMB bumper sounds like something you'd hear on an edition-of-20 cassette with hand painted artwork some dude in Delaware made under the name Clitoral Hood or Fill Werrel or something. Which is to say it rules. I'm gonna overlay some TR-707 samples and pass it off in a DJ set as an exclusive Delroy Edwards rarity

Breathplay

hi bosh this comment was just for you :)

s

Unrelated to this episode, where does “who are these ___ coming down?” Come from? Josh says it a lot

By Tove!

Looking forward to the new BioShock game set in Providence

s

word up

Noah

1:06:53 - real Christian Slater moment

The Worst of All Possible Worlds

There is always a man. There is always a lighthouse. There is always at least one character whose first and last names begin with the same letter.

Jordyn Clementi

I find it beyond charming that Ted Bundy got on camera and said "It seems today that all you see is violence in movies and sex on TV" and the reverend preacher Dr. James Dobson, evangelist ate it up.

Mason Shrader

The camel speech was one of the best written and acted villain monologues I've heard in a bit

Theo D

thank you for bringing up the problems with the term judeo-christian values, its something that i always find incredibly frustrating as a jew

Trojan Zebra

Incredible Mulaney impression

Grouchiest Marxiest

I love how the Christian calender commercials music ranges between muzak, hold tunes, and porno jazz every other bar.

Louise Lopez

the “tetris ripoff where each piece is three blocks” was Columns for the sega genesis and it did sound like that.

Elizabeth Power

The commentary about the interview is interesting as heck, but hold on a second… Ted Bundy used to work at a suicide hotline? Like trying to help people? That’s messed up. Imagine realizing you had talked to him!

Max

Having to hear James Dobson utter the words “she spent two hours arranging herself to score a hit on his sensory apparatus” has dealt me psychic damage and I will be sending you my therapy bill. Very dark energy. Also, I begin to detect a new running commercial bit forming.

Max

Ok, having now finished the episode completely, I will also be adding the therapy bill for experiencing that final song.

Tyler Jay

Halfway through listening to this I found a sticker my parents got me last year when in Colorado Springs that says “Colorado springs is for everyone” w/ a pride flag. Thought it was random at the time but now I have the context of why that sticker was made in the first place.

Lain of the Wired

Been thinking more about this and like... maybe ten years prior to the interviewyou has R.D. Laing comparing the nuclear family to the Cold war and like a shitty family life can ruin treatment and this asshole is just "nah"

Ciara Rhiannon

just hearing the audio of bundy is beyond chilling like holy fuck

Sergeant Hare Apollo

1:51:13 I’ve had a terminal brain disease where I spontaneously sing “Focus On The Family Guy” to the tune of the Family Guy theme song for months now. Humbly requesting your prayers

Jimmy McMillan

He probably thought, luckily there's a focus on the family guy

Ray of F---ing Sunshine

Hey James Fouhey has an INCREDIBLE voice please tell me he does audiobooks