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Joe Kassabian (Lions Led by Donkeys) and the lads hop in the Highwind and fly it straight into Sephiroth’s face as they conclude their coverage of Square’s monumental 1997 RPG: Final Fantasy VII. Topics include the wild quests of Yuffie and Vincent, the gamer-rage fueled final dungeon, and what it means to fight the end of the world when you’ve got a Sephiroth still lodged in your head.

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Lions Led by Donkeys: The Lions Led By Donkeys podcast is a military history podcast for laughing at the worst military failures, inept commanders, and crazy stories from throughout the history of human conflict.

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Media Referenced in this Episode:

Final Fantasy VII. Square. 1997.

“Final Fantasy 7: An Oral History” by Matt Leone. Polygon. January 9th, 2017.

Final Fantasy VII Complete Script

“The Story of Final Fantasy” by /u/DubTheeBustocles

Jegged Final Fantasy VII Walkthrough

“Quest 64: Days of Grief and Werehares” by A.J. Ditty

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Interstitial: “Palmer: A Requiem” // Written by A.J. Ditty // Featuring A.J. Ditty as “Palmer”

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Laura Platt

babe wake up, new best TWOAPW interstitial just dropped

shadowcb

The start of this episode has got me excited for the inevitable Kingdom Hearts episode in 1 years time 🙃

shadowcb

Also fun fact on the load times, the single player PS1/PS2 FF games weren't optimised for PAL regions until FF12, so they all ran at 5/6 speed, so everything, including the act of walking, took longer to do (whenever people discuss remasters being unnecessary, this is usually one of the main selling points in Europe)

Derek W

I love how well this crossover works. I actually found you guys through the episode you did on Lions Led by Donkeys and have been going through your entire back catalog.

Max

Westfieeeeeeeeeeld!

The Best Sean

Those days of playground rumors of what you can and can't do in Pokémon Blue made a lot more sense when you realize missingno sounds just as ridiculous and was real

Bryan Cebulski

Re: the world map song sounding like Dance of the Vampires (which was an AMAZING discovery), a different part of the song is lifted from the beginning of Spacelab by Kraftwerk. Nobuo Uematsu might have just been really into German music at the time! Michiko Naruke did something similar with her music in the JRPG Wild ARMs! a lot of pieces of tracks in that game are lifted from Ennio Morricone's spaghetti western scores.

Dergon

Buster sword? I don't even KNOW her sword!

Tuesdays

brb, carving "kill the sephiroth that lives in your head" into my arm

Relkia

i will fight to defend the honor of ff13 (the first game at least)

mimsycast

I heard somewhere that the big fmv sequences were where ff7 hides most of its loading times, and thats how it felt so seamless

Luckie

Long before I ever played FF7, I played a sega jrpg called Phantasy Star IV that had a death of a main character. Playing it as a kid kind of devastated me. I didn’t know that was a thing that could happen, and you see it play out in a comic book style cutscene while sad, 16-bit music plays. I actually struggled with finding motivation to continue playing; if only there was snowboarding immediately after…

P.A.L.

"Hot Hands" Joe Kassabian is how he needs to be introduced every time if you ever have him back (and you definitely should)

Brandon Chinn

I disagreed with a lot of the takes in these two episodes, especially the potshots taken at other Final Fantasy titles, but I think we can all agree that JRPGs have this strange ability to both remain socially necessary and important while also providing a wonderful, adventurous escape from reality.

Sean Logan

i appreciate the disdain ff8 received in this episode. it's not great!

Leo Curtis

With regards to the tone of the ending, it strikes me as somewhat similar to NieR: Automata. Not directly analagous, sure, but comparable in some ways. I'd love to see you boys cover that game (Jesse Cox would be a phenomenal guest for that lol).

Rosey Armstrong

Okay hitting the choir song part. This is exactly how Kurt writes songs I think.

Cait Sith

maligning a public servant while they're all losing their jobs irl. smh. justice for cait sith and red is a cat btw

Elizabeth Power

Just here to say that “oh man, what a memorable experience that also pissed me off” is a great sentence that I will be using at some point. The choir song at the end slaps!

Thom Coté

KitKat, Dove, Hershey's Snickers bar, Reeses Piece KitKat, Dove, Hershey's Snickers bar, Reeses Piece MOSER ROTH MOSER ROTH ... Sorry, just was thinkin about chocolate barrrrs

Imoen

My favorite part of how ff7 influenced the rpg world in the states is that the studio making Baldur's Gate 2 Shadows of Amn, one of the guys there started to play the game when it came out and was like "guys the characters in this game are so much better than ours. We need to do better." Which caused them too flesh out the party members in the game.

NowhereMan661

That Overworld theme reveal is one of the funniest fucking things I've ever heard.

NowhereMan661

Cloud and Tifa in the Lifestream sounds a lot like the End of Evangelion and what happens to Shinji during Third Impact and Human Instrumentality.

Tog

I subbed for this. It was worth it. Please have Joe back for ff8 and ffX

Sean Logan

least terrible part of the game

Fullmetal Gundam

Listening to this, the ending of FF7 feels like it draws a lot of inspiration from Mobile a suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack; which was hugely popular in Japan & came out in the late 80s/early 90s, I forget exactly when

Zafíro

I don't remember why.But both my brother and I took an instant dislike to Aeris. So we put her in box prison. When she died , we were completely nonplussed. I only found out later that she was supposed to be more important.