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The lads grab their crossbows and make for the Space Needle as they cover the back half of Naughty Dog's 2020 revengefest: The Last of Us Part II. Topics include state quarters, the logistics of building crane bridges, and what it truly means to “look for the light”.

Media Referenced in this Episode:

The Last of Us Part II. Dir. Neil Druckmann. Naughty Dog. 2020.

Grounded II: The Making of The Last of Us: Part II. 

One Day, Everyone Will Always Have Been Against This by Omar El Akkad. Penguin Random House. 2025

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Interstitial: “The CW’s The Last of Us: Season Nine” // Written by A.J. Ditty // Feat. A.J. Ditty as “CW Announcer/Barnaby Bozo”

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noname

Part 1?

Jarda

My lads post late cause they nocturnal

P.A.L.

Nautical Weekly is the only publication I trust for takes on Prestige television shows

BarFly

Wolves can't look up. But I could pick a wolf up one night and raise it into the sky and tilt this wolf ever so gentle. I can make sure this wolf's eyes line up with the bridges.

HollyBroWoo

With the zebras in the second game and the giraffes in the first, seems like Naughty Dog wants to make a Zoo Tycoon-like.

Eliza Blackhart

You could say Abbey had a Five-iron Frenzy eh?

Ash

as a person who used to live in Washington and is angry that Seattle is the only city anyone seems to know about the state, i sublimate all my rage onto Seattle teams. it's probably because my classmates were obnoxious about them when I lived there.

P.A.L.

Couldn't agree with AJ's rallying call at the end harder if I wanted to.

Peter Paul Rubens' Muse

i will never celebrate the admittedly nice-looking connecticut state quarter bc the state of connecticut has wronged me personally

Nathan Woods

AJ's Exploding Horse Sound Effect

HollyBroWoo

Someone smarter than me needs to write/talk about how weird this game is about mothers and maternity

HollyBroWoo

Didn’t catch that, thanks for letting me know

Dergon

*searches Last of Us 2 Manny Reddit* "...self insert for a beta who could NEVER live up to Joel's ALPHA MALE qualities..." *closes Reddit, turns off phone, throws phone in river*

Peter Paul Rubens' Muse

I somehow went years of my life until this episode not knowing that Abby is voiced by Laura Bailey, a very talented voice actor who I nonetheless cannot un-hear when I notice her. She and Grey Delisle both stick out to me in anything they're in 😭 glad they're getting work tho

Gorbant

I hope that we get more future installments of Brian's State Quarter Quorner

Nemo

this game sounds far too long

Michael Morgan

As a lifelong Mariners fan, I’d like to protest the strays being shot at us - but it’s been a lifetime of pain - I’d like to think Mets and Mariners fans can agree on something though - fuck the Yankees

Sam

The intro reminded me that I used to collect the state quarters as a kid as they were still coming out. Shoutout to idaho for actually having a pretty cool one

Evilmagetim

I guess in the end we really were the last of us part 2 remastered

Jimmy McMillan

State quarters from the 70's is all part of this game's woke agenda. Also, I didn't want to bang any them. Not nearly as sexy as the originals

sky

The Last of Us Part II (Part 1) (Part 2)

OLO

You put into words this nagging feeling I've had about zombie stories for like a decade. I would always say they're too bleak for me but I've meshed with some real hopeless shit, so it wasn't that. While I love me some monsters in fiction, the like scale of inhumanity that zombies call for just cannot help but fall face first into that right-wing flavor of dehumanization

Laur

The bleakness of this game's ending (for ellie at least) has always struck me. Usually I like a bitter or sad ending to a story but god DAMN.

Nobody

Wow. At about 1:45:00. My heart hurts

Harles Barkley

Damn, im scared to hear what you can come up with to say about spokane if this is how you feel about seattle lmfao

Matthew Tappero

Wait a minute I'm confused. Is Mel supposed to be pregnant or something?

J

No, she's A pregnant, get it right!

James Cézanne-Taipale

I would really like you to do Station 11 at some point, Riley could guest, it would be grand. Also is Slings and Arrows next week?

I love the lagoon

Very good ep and analysis, this is a weird game for me cos while I recognize all this as being very real and 'correct' readings of the thing it still affected me a lot and has stuck with me since playing it. My reading of the tragedy of Joel's death for Ellie is a bit different. It's not that they were okay or were on the outs, and the more classic trope of her last thing said to him was cruel or nasty would have felt a bit trite I think. I always took it as her being ready to try to forgive him and work towards something that maybe isn't what it was but could help them both find peace but her being robbed of that chance by his death. Kind of like he robbed her of the chance to try and save the world. That obviously doesn't change anything surrounding the weird liberal zionism stuff or the weird tonal dissonance between "violence bad" and "hey woah look at this epic kill I got" vibes, but the motivations have always seemed a lot more clear and understandable to me than they are for other folks I've heard talk about or talked to about the game since it came out.

Noblese Oblahaj

The trans discussion made me think some. I wonder how many of these people who are bothered by trans women are bothered by them because their ideal woman is someone who can be controlled- and the idea of a woman with agency and power, or aggression, things they see as male traits- scares them. For a lot of these dudes, their worst nightmare is a confrontation with another man who is willing to hurt them. The idea of a woman with power and willingness to do them harm must eat at their souls.

Noblese Oblahaj

If you do another zombie game, do Days Gone. It actually has interesting looks at trauma, masculinity, violence, community, etc. It ain't high art but it's pretty interesting to see a male character showing vulnerability and stuff instead of just being a vehicle for violence

Dergon

OMG I love that game lol. The relationship with your bike and learning landmarks, coasting to save fuel, scavenge spots, it all worked for me so very well. Also loved *slight spoilers* the final villains and that you had to work with everyone, including others you didn't like, to take them down.

Derek W

OooOOooOo NoOoooOoo

I Love Brian Alford's Bible Corner

I'm a philosophical pessimist at this point in my life but I also realize that nothing about what humans do is inevitable. Human violence is not "senseless" -- tornadoes are senseless.

Elizabeth Power

Listening to two whole episodes about this game, I know nothing about was worth it for the joke where you played the confrontation. Also wasn’t expecting the very important Gaza parallels and I enjoyed that too.

NowhereMan661

Ultimately, I think that Druckmann's beliefs in the inevitability of revenge and conflict between groups reveals a fundamental blindness to the socio-economic system that he lives in and how it creates the conditions which lead to conflicts ariseing continually. He's existing within a Capitalist Realism view of reality, where the system that dominates the society he lives in is so totalizing in its control over every aspect of life that he views it as simply being the natural state of things and the only possible way for life to be. When you live in a system that generates tribalism and genocidal war as its intended function, you view these consequences as inevitable, because the system just keeps making them, and you don't recognize the system because no alternatives are presented which could indicate that this is not normal and universal. If the system only produces horrible, evil people, then surely everyone must be horrible and evil.

LeechWife

I really like Days Gone, played it through now thrice, but there is just something so off. The character archs are not consistent and change whenever the plot requires. The whole thing about Jessie comes from nothing and we never learn anything about him. A character surviving something that should have definitely killed him just because. I have not actually read about how that game was developed, but I guarantee they had some problems with schedule and writing the story. Maybe they wrote a less optimistic ending and people didn't like it so they pulled the new ending out of their butts. Nevertheless, I do like it a lot and Deacon is just the perfect bad boy with a heart of gold.

LeechWife

You're telling me the game has no LEVity? I think at least 9 Sca.. SERAPHITES.. out of 10 would disagree. The last one is busy disemboweling someone.

Mac M

Very late but peter gabriel in the interstitial is sending me

r00bit

Loved the 47 impressions so much hahaha