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206 - Eugene: Monk (feat. Joe Kassabian) [Whit’s Endless Summer 46] (Patreon)

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2025-09-10 06:15:01
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2026-07-23 16:29:51
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Joe Kassabian (Lions Led By Donkeys) joins the lads in Odyssey for further adventures in monastic life, missionary work, and the dreaded attraction between cousins. Topics include evangelical views of Catholicism, the blatantly political work of missionaries, and why cruelty begetting cruelty is at the heart of the Evangelical project.

Joe Kassabian: Bluesky // Twitter

Lions Led by Donkeys: The Lions Led By Donkeys podcast is a military history podcast for laughing at the worst military failures, inept commanders, and crazy stories from throughout the history of human conflict.

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STREAMING TICKETS FOR LIONS LED BY DONKEYS LIVE FROM GLASGOW

Media Referenced in Episode:

Adventures in Odyssey

#366: “Solitary Refinement”

#377: “Just Say Yes”

#384: “Amazing Grace”

#91: “A Mission for Jimmy”

TWOAPW theme by Brendan Dalton: Patreon // brendan-dalton.com // brendandalton.bandcamp.com

Interstitial: “Thirteen Hours and Twenty-One Minutes into the Nineteenth of April in a Small Monastery On the Outskirts of Odyssey Just After the Passing of the Twentieth Century” // Written by A.J. Ditty // Feat. A.J. Ditty as “Estragon Estragonov/Melvin Mulligan/Phoebear”

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P.A.L.

Aww yeah, exposing Joe to Odyssey! The prophecy is fulfilled.

P.A.L.

No lie, I thought that AJ had been edited in to the monks chorus in that clip from the show. Seems exactly the sort of thing he'd do.

P.A.L.

Phoebear is my new favourite character. Interstitial was fantastic as always.

Will

Not my dog freakin out over the bear noises

titus virginia

On the topic of monasteries in the US, there are a few orthodox monasteries in my hometown, and about a year ago I visited a shuttered monastery for a class on local history. We weren't there long before a man came over from an adjacent property shouting and threatening to shoot us for trespassing (we had permission to be there). It turns out he was upset the serbs who bought the property wanted to make it a brothel.

titus virginia

the serbs who bought the property wanted to turn it into a resort brothel in the pine barrens. as you can guess, we did not finish the tour

Saengchaen

And they are his Angels of Faith, the Whit Marines.

madalyn

thrilled by the reappearance of Phoebear

Apollo

There are a few catholic monasteries still in catholic canada too

Sasha MH

There is a very cool abbey outside of Charleston, Sc

Aoife Rowan

I don't have long covid but I do have a similarly invisible chronic illness with similar symptoms and the discussion of "you seem fine" kind of hit me in the gut. right there with you.

Korax

"Solitary refinement" is what *I* call jerking off.

Orion's Art

The cousins thing reminded me of an episode of oh no Ross and carry from like a hundred years ago by now, where Carrey pointed out that a lot of super religious people are in the position of “The list of people I would approve of dating my daughter is so small that I might just have to accept her marrying a relative”. Paraphrasing obviously but I think there’s some accuracy to it.

t o r t

Carlsbad, CA jumpscare. Had no idea that our boomer evangelicals funded and sent bullets to the contras… will use this factoid at next family dinner

LogalogJack

I appreciate you going through these episodes if only because I didn’t have these albums growing up and I need more info before diving into my Eugene’s deconstruction/coming out of the closet fic. Yes it’s attached to my Harlequin Dinner Theater Throuple AU. Not sure if Eugene will get in drag at this juncture, but much to consider.

Zipzapzop

Mistook John newton for Isaac newton and was really hoping for an anti alchemy episode

Dergon

More like Charlie K- urk!

It’s a Lads, Lads, Lads Cast World (British)

AJ was spot on about Amazing Grace - it’s just really bland, goes on forever, and seems to be designed for soloists in the choir to Alford themselves off at church.

Jonathan V. Cann

I'm at 28:40 and my brain is trying to escape my skull

Noel Rodney Jr.

Just googled McGee and Me because it sounded familiar. My 3rd grade English teacher showed us two of these tapes!

Max

Just based on the clips you played, I bet that monastery buys tons of Contemporary Catholic Music from the old interstitial. The sound was incredibly similar to the song about having a threesome with Jesus.

hill

Wings?!

Thom Coté

Joe had a great point, this is Whithammer 40k

Coral

I’m waiting not so patiently for the Nova Com episodes 🤞🏼

Jimmy McMillan

I thought June was the guest at first. She and Joe have very similar voices

Paula Sulpice

You can tell the episode is written by a protestant because why would a monetary be named "Oak Hills." Wouldn't it be named like St. Anthony's or something?

NowhereMan661

Agreed. Screw Amazing Grace, Ode to Joy is by far the superior song.

Wilko

AJ is objectively correct about "Amazing Grace". It *is* mid. Sorry not sorry If you don't get sick of it or at least bored by the third verse, it's because A) you're listening to a re-arrangement by a good composer, who added a bit of dissonance, rhythm or interesting chord progressions not preset in the original to give some spice to the blandness of it all B) because it's performed by an amazing singer. C) you are blinded by nostalgic feelings from listening to it as a child a million times I refuse to credit Newton for any of that. If you want good sacral music, listen to pretty much anything by Bach, Buxtehude or if that's not modern enough, Brahms or Mendelssohn Bartholdy.

Nobody

Damn that scene between Eugene and Whit praying was HOTT

Elizabeth Power

AJ basically talking to himself in alternating Irish and Russian accents is seriously very impressive! Also, I fear that the diction and accents in the John Newton section scratch my brain and just the right way, despite the pitfalls of Odyssey .

hill

Speaking by as someone who lives in a very conservative area, conservatives have absolutely have not internalized any of the “oh you’re sick? All good, worry about it later” post-COVID attitude. It’s seen as pussy, weak, lib shit.

Rapture Helmet

If you’re into fruitcake as a seasonal treat, some of the best are made and sold by Trappist monks in Missouri as their main source of income

Ms. Charlie

and BOY are my arms tired

Tuesdays

counterpoint: no one tell aj what it means. it's funnier this way

I Love Brian Alford's Bible Corner

Hell, we broke off from Britain in part because we were didn't want to be attached when they ended their participation.

Melissa Humbert

There's a musical called Amazing Grace, based loosely on John Newton's story. I don't really remember much about it. It was pretty bad.