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The lads cry havoc and loose the dogs of war as they cover Joseph L. Mankiewicz’s 1953 adaptation of one of Josh’s favorite Shakespeare plays: Julius Caesar. Topics include the messiness of revolution, the shockwaves of Brando’s career, and what it means to be masculine in a world where even your best bros can stab you with knives.

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Media Referenced in this Episode:

Julius Caesar (1953), dir. Joseph L. Mankiewicz.

“About Shakespeare’s Julius Caesar” by Barbara Mowat and Paul Werstine, Folger Shakespeare.

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Commercial: “That Moment at a Wedding When the DJ Puts on “Mr. Brightside” by The Killers”

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James Cézanne-Taipale

That commercial was a personal attack on me specifically wasn’t it?

Dergon

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Frontlinecaster

Weirdly we did Julius Caesar in high school, but it was in history class instead of English class. Same teacher had us read sections of Henry V too, I think he was a theater guy who just somehow ended up teaching the wrong class. The only Shakespeare we did in English class was Romeo and Juliet and Midsummer Night's Dream.

Breathplay

"taylor sheridan's mary kate and ashley series is really phenomenal" sent me into several minutes of fevered searching, did taylor sheridan work on those olsen twins joints under a pseudonym? did he do some kind of expose documentary on them? is there another taylor sheridan i don't know about who's like a youtuber or podcaster or something? ...oh i've been defeated by brian's bone dry delivery

Alex

We did Julius Caesar in school and I couldn't get into it at all until we watched this in class, so nice to remember how enjoyable this adaptation is Also if you do other Shakespeare adaptations in future would be quite interested in hearing your thoughts on the Julie Taymor Titus Andronicus film at some point

Amy Godliman

Not sure why but this episode has become the one I put on to fall asleep. I’ve never made it to the commercial and also I’ve never not laughed like a child at Charlie Brown and his love of big naturals.

The Worst of All Possible Worlds

I will say, if there's one commercial to fall asleep to, I'm pretty sure this is the one. Existentially terrifying but sonically? V. soothing.

Trashabama

This is my first time commenting on Patreon. Listened to this episode today, it was great! Then I went to a pool bar with some friends. There were 5 TVs above the bar. The largest TV, in the middle, cycled Shakespeare quotes the entire night. When I decided to take a picture, it was the “As he was ambitious, I slew him” quote. Life’s funny like that sometimes.

back to future bonus when

Man I that bit bout trump Julius Caesar from his first term is weird to hear in time of writing this but I'm not sure if it's changed or more true?

FelineJay

Josh's comment around 47:10 is... Prophetic

JeMaKat Arts

better a day early than a day late I, suppose

NowhereMan661

There was a really fascinating Broadway adaptation of Julius Caesar made in 1962 set in Cuba, where Castro is Caesar and Raul is Mark Anthony, and the senators are reactionaries who are trying to backstab the revolution. It failed pretty quickly, but I would love to see another attempt at it. It was called "Infidel Caesar".

NowhereMan661

So, it's important to understand that what the conspirators are doing isn't Revolution, it's Reaction. Caesar, as a Populare politician, is functionally on the side of the Plebians, the common people. He is in favor of things like land redistribution for the working class, which would take it from the landowning Patrician ruling class, and put a dent in their profits. The main objections to Caesar by them were not that he was going to make himself a king and that he was violating norms (the norms have been violated and failing for a few hundred years at this point), it was that he was threatening the bottom line for the rich ruling class. Caesar wasn't a Fascist or a Revolutionary, he was a Reformer, working within the already very extended confines of the existing institution. And the ruling class of Rome wouldn't tolerate even that. Sound familiar? If anything, this play, as well as Roman history itself, is about how attempts by the ruling class to prevent progress just leads to the contradictions of the system getting worse, and causing the whole thing to fall apart in chaos and violence. This may not have been the intention of Shakespeare, but it's obvious if you look at it from outside a monarchist lense.

Tay

Ah yes Mr bright side, a song about getting cuckolded, the perfect song for a wedding.