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Takopi's Original Sin - Episode 3 (UNCUT REACTION)

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Sinbad_Deity

A kid bully who bullies because of trauma doesn't deserve death, they need therapy, and anyone who thinks they deserve death also needs therapy.... However if you bully for no reason (rare), or you're an adult taking out your trauma on others, especially your own kids, then you deserve death.

C2-H5-OH

I have been bullied and I have been a bully. This show makes me see both sides man

Khitar_B!

As much as I hate Marina and I'm not justifying her actions, because they aren't justifiable, it's not her fault that she is the way she is. A child is a mirror of their parents, and she was raised in an awful environment: with a deadbeat dad who chose a hooker over the wife he built a life with, and under the influence of her mentally unstable mother. You can hate her — and rightfully so — but I still don't blame her for the way she turned out and I never wished death upon her

Armavel

I think there’s a clear difference between saying “You’re a bad person, you shouldn’t react like this” and “It’s an understandable reaction, but maybe something worth reflecting on.” Most of the messages I’ve seen fall into the second category—but of course, I’ve only read a portion of the comments. It’s totally fine to dislike her character, but the way some people are cheering for her death, adding unhinged comments, and savoring the moment—it just feels a bit too much. Just my opinion. :)

Nonos

Definitely hate marina, she is the worst bully to push someone to suicide. Id give her the worst punishments but I’m just not gonna wish her to die in my opinion. A kid is heavily shaped by their environment. I’m very angry at how much the parents fail to care for their kid. This isn’t an excuse for what Marina did of course but it just gives us understanding for how her twisted mentality led to where it was at. She had a very messed up mentality that needed guidance. A messed up kid like that who’s like 11 should be severely punished, reformed, be in therapy, learn what they’re doing is wrong.

axilir21

It's crazy that they managed to make the slap from the mom to Marina(takopi) feel the exact same as when Marina would slap Shizuka in episode 1, you can instantly get where she learned it from.

Okarun

So shizuka is from happy family?nah man trauma doesn’t mean you can bully someone.i agree the bully doesn’t deserve to die,but if you on the bully’s side instead of victim, then you need therapy.many kids that deal with divorces parent and toxic but never touch other kids.they doing harmful to themself instead,like shizuka in the first episode.that’s the real victim.

GamiMaster

The topic more focus on family problem instead of bullying. The parent of the 3 child's is worst throughout the whole series.

Anavil Didthasom

I feel like I like when you focus just only on the story and just reactions. I don't know, this is just my feeling. I feel like you don't have to connect it to the real world and explain it to your haters.

Sinbad_Deity

I'm not taking the bully's side instead of the victims, you're putting words in my mouth, I simply said they need therapy, not death. You literally said the bully doesn't need to die, you quite literally agreed with me, wtf are you arguing here, talking just to talk...

kngKris

Takopi literally lives through Marina lens now yet I don’t see Takopi wanting to beat another kid half to death crazy how this world works.

Sinbad_Deity

Also your right, kids who are dealing with trauma take one of two paths, take it out on themselves or others, in this case Marina is taking it out on others, because she has a clear path to direct that anger towards, even though it isn't Shizuka's fault, Marina has justified it using trauma. I'm not saying this is an excuse for what she did, but it's simply a reason why. If there's a reason why, it can be turned around with enough therapy, nobody has to resort to the death of a child.

yasmina C

this show is just telling me who all the toxic watchers are that I will steer clear from, lol

Zanes World

You should react to tougen anki. Best first episode I’ve ever seen

Zachary Weaver

Game theory: marinas still alive, because nobody checked her pulse or breathing. And also it's sus that they put her body in something that perfectly preserves things. It makes me think she can still be resusitates

Navri

I really like this anime but maybe its just me but im no entirely loving the direction this anime went for. Maybe something will change idk but i really hope they wont make Shizuka like a sociopath or something i really want her to grow up like a normal kid

ita

real shit

Impulsife

I mean she has no moral compass because she's been neglected her entire life. Like Marina, she doesn't know any better. I kinda was like that as a kid, too ngl. Neglected whole childhood, so I had no moral compass. I stole stuff, hurt other ppl, babies even, and I lied a lot. Looking back on it, it was because there was no one there to teach you to practice things like kindness, treating others with respect, and being truthful. But now I'm just a normal guy, I think. I moved to a better community and moved to a better school where teachers actually cared about the students and being nice was considered cool. Your environment shapes you more than anything else.

Speed_Sound_Sonic

There is no justifying for her reactions your right but there is also no one else she could blame for. She is like 10 and got put into this shit situation. Should she yell at her Dad or the hooker? She doesn't even understand what is going on and could do nothing against either of two. So Marina choosed her... Everyone can have their opinions... but that even Nick says she deserves death like bro? By all the things he predicts he fails to think their a bit? How are people not getting her situation? I would for sure slap her back but killing? Haiyaa...

Speed_Sound_Sonic

A person who always thinks... has nothing to think about but thoughts

SibirPrizrak

people always have something to complain about Americans especailly nothing can be perfect

Bob

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Nova EF

im usally with you most things but i will never be okay with death of a fully living person if they have not killed someone themself. There is always another way. kids dont need to beat but some them need to be spanked all depends on what they did.

Bob

Glad he likes the show!!

Navri

im not really complaining its just that i would want for her to have normal childhood. no kid deserves a childhood like this

Navri

That is a good point and i agree that the enviroment was very toxic for her and everyone meglected her so much that she now thinks thats the normal way to live

Joshua Vaughn

I was bullied as a kid too. Not anywhere close to this degree , but I understand the way that it can mess with your head. I have good parents growing up, but my moral compass would be affected by people trying to get me to do things so I could fit in instead of saying no and making the bullying worse. Its all complicated and makes no sense on paper, but in the moment, you just do what you think will give you the best outcome. In the mind of a kid, nothing will make much sense to a adult cause the logic is simplified and dramatized. I can relate to both Shizuka and Azuma in that regard. The non existent moral compass and the need to please everyone. She just needs someone who can show her proper right from wrong, and he need someone to show him that it's ok to not be perfect and please everyone.

Laboratory

It's not that you are evil, but you seem very uneducated in regard to how a child's brain works and how they perceive the world. "I did this so everyone must be able to do this." This is such a harmful mindset to have and you KNOW that too because everyone is different. I know this hits home for you so I get it, you're going to be in your feels and logic kinda goes out the window. But, it's extremely frustrating to hear someone talk so obstinately about contentious topics such as bullying, abuse, and suicide. Discussions about it are controversial and hard to have because strong emotions are involved. The reason we put kids in Juvenile Facilities (Although I don't support them because how ineffecitive they are due to lack of care and treatment) and not prison is because it is scientifically proven that they can be changed and are far more open-minded. You are extremely stubborn. Being stubborn isn't a bad thing of course, but being stubborn and wrong is. Whether you like it or not, your reactions are likely from past trauma. I think you should get that checked out.

Laboratory

I'm just gonna try to not watch your reactions on this specific show because it's definitely going to affect how I perceive you (Refrain from the glaze replies guys because they are def coming 😂 I know i'm not important for him). I really like how energetic you are on everything else though!

Andrew Tang

I get you but if you're referring to what happened to Marina, she literally killed or tried to kill Shizuka (Takopi) already.

Andrew Tang

i would like to think so but she literally had her eyes open, looked like she was pretty dead but I dunno, i could be wrong

Andrew Tang

Totally respect your opinion, that said I actually much prefer his discussion and relating it to the real world. I'm too old to just watch stories for stories.

Kira

put the fries in the bag bro

Nova EF

She bullied her and beat her up and got choppi took away and then shizuka killed herself because she lost her dog. You can definitely say the marina was the cause I her killing herself but at the end of the day it was her decision to make. You can make it threw bullying and you can stop being a bully and change but when your dead that's it. I hope I'm making sense

Andrew Tang

" it's not her fault that she is the way she is. A child is a mirror of their parents, and she was raised in an awful environment" So do we just throw free will and accountability out the window? People need to start having personal responsibility, I get that she's a child and shes shaped by her environment and genetics, but if we gave every shitty child that same excuse we would have a lot more messed up kids running around and not in jail, this is bullshit. On her death though im more mixed; I wouldnt say im super happy about it but im nore neutral

Andrew Tang

Nobody actually deserves to die but i aint gonna lie and say I didnt feel the slight bit happy that shes gone, yes we knew her backstory was gonna be sad and shit but it doesn't remove what shes already done

Sinbad_Deity

Of course it doesn't remove what she's done, but what she's done isn't enough to say she deserves death, especially with the backstory. And I'm not saying you can't be relieved that she died, I was too, but you shouldn't wish death on a child as a solution to a problem, when there's many other ways she can be fixed.

Blake Chestnut

So we're not gonna blame shizuka for being manipulative and neglected by her parents then, we're gonna hold her accountable for manipulating another person into covering up a death, and stealing from their family? Or are we gonna say its because she's being bullied? Because it sure seems like marina was being bullied by her parents and manipulated by them but she doesn't get that excuse? She just deserves to die?

Andrew Tang

bruh chill out man and stop calling people dumb and shit. Everyone's entitled to their own opinions on this.

Blake Chestnut

This was for Mr okarun as a response, just a opposing look at it

Andrew Tang

Am I the only person that agrees with Nick on this? I'm shocked people are backing Marina so much when she literally tried to kill Shizuka (Takopi) and removed Chappy (could have turned into a put the dog down situation). Her backstory aint even that sad lol. It's not about what Marina deserves. I'm not going to feel bad that Marina got put down, its as simple as that. I would feel the same way if Shizuka ends up doing something extremely bad.

kngKris

I’ve held a similar stance to Nick which is very much rooted in logic, so i’d like to have this discussion. First of all you’re pretending this is just a matter of neuroscience, you’re ignoring that even children know cruelty. What Marina did in the show wasn’t “kids being kids.” It’s a clear pattern of destructive intent. We are discussing bullying, abuse, and suicide. These are deep human topics, you’re supposed to feel something… You’re treating “kids can change” as an absolute moral truth, that itself is ignorant. I’m not saying all kids are monsters. I’m saying some actions go too far even for kids.

Karatsuki

It's not like they are praising her for bullying either though

rizqiefajar

Very happy to see you enjoying an emotionally complex anime and discussing about it throughout. It's awesome that this anime blew up. Also, cute Marina is cursed af 😂💀

Azariel 竜月

ALL this is so fcked up on so many level , none of the children & Takopi deserved all that shit . Marina was abuse , she was shit but now she fcking dead , she will never become better , apologies and atone , and now Takopi is living her fcked up life :c at least he doesn't become a bully :')

Armavel

Wtf i just read ... Nick at least understands anime. Can't say the same about you, judging by this comment

Karatsuki

I mean is he wrong though? Being cruel is not something you are born with, it's learned from your surroundings. And while what she did was going too far, effectively killing her is going too far in turn also. Even if she cannot change for the better at least she could be managed if they send her to the juvie so that she cannot affect anyone else.

stephanie johnson

don't think people are defending her actions. More so saying she didn't deserve to die either since she was also an abused kid

Karatsuki

Nobody is saying she should be forgiven on all her accounts of wrong doing... Also what do you expect a chidl to do with this "free will" if all they know is violence? You don't seriously expect her to go "oh what I'm doing is wrong and I should stop" Because if nobody has taught her that how the hell could she know it? NOBODY is born knowing what's "wrong" and what's "right", those things are learned from our surroundings and this is a fact on every human being. How those learned experiences shape you is that "free will", but unless you have those experiences how can you act on them?

Armavel

I'm shocked people are backing Marina so much when she literally tried to kill Shizuka --- No one is supporting Marina actions. It’s about how every event has its own context and backstory. That abstract evil doesn’t just appear out of nowhere - it’s always the product of specific circumstances and human actions. Her backstory aint even that sad lol. --- Oh, man, just, please, shut up. Seems you re just chasing your emotional dopamine hit. Not too sad - i dont care about it. I assume you dont even understand Shizuka character, it doesnt matter for you, it was just sad and you decided to root for her. Just find something else to watch, this show is not for you, its not about rooting for favourite character. And not about seeing life in black and white terms. its as simple as that --- Sure, but not quite as simple as the way you think.

Karatsuki

@Andrew Like why does everything have to be so black and white for you You think we either support Marina bullying her or we celebrate her death, there is no inbetween in your mind?

Orka8

Marina knew shizuka's situation. She knew she didnt have anybody except chappi. And then she purposefully got bit by chappi so itd get rid of him too. not to mention she constantly beat shizuka up while telling her to kill herself multiple times. Marina killed shizuka. These are 4th graders, not highschoolers.

CHUNTARO

It’s great to know that Nick’s flexible and not stubborn in his opinion. It was very normal to hate Marina and feel the way Nick feels. I was just worried that the same feeling won’t be applied to other characters further down the plot line and Nick would’ve then became an hypocrite.

Nova EF

Obviously bro I watched the show just like you. You didn't need to explain all that. But like I said marina played a part in shizuka killing herself but you have to be realistic shizuka did that to herself. If we're gonna really blame someone where are her parents? They deserve alot of the blame aswell. You can blame alot of people on why it happened but the person that did was shizuka. Takopi murdered marina and shizuka sat there and smiled dragged someone else into and started to corrupt them i forgot bros name but shizuka is full out manipulating him right now like no one is innocent in this situation at all

Azariel 竜月

I mean most of us never said it was an excuse , just that Marina didn't deserve death , just have some teacher or one parent not being a dipshit and do something and educate her to not take it out on Shizuka

Azariel 竜月

I still think there was other ways regarding Marina , specially with Takopi tools , the friendship ruban would have worked wonders , but instead it was use in the first ep for something not so wonderful lol

Azariel 竜月

no yeah I agree , Marina was very very wrong harming to such point , and it's just sad , and cowardly because she would want to got after the mom that "took" her dad even tho it's more complex , so she sought revenge and found it in torturing Shizuka , "guilty" by extension , link with her Mom the escort , it's stupid and fcked up but kid logic eh

kngKris

in an ideal world yes you detain Marina, give her help, let her grow, stop the cycle. But in the world we saw? Where it’s literally fated for Marina to push Shizuka to suicide or killing Shizuka herself. She was actively killing someone and someone stopped her.

kngKris

Again for the people in the back who don’t understand Nick and his stance. Trauma and pain does not equal to innocence. Marina created a situation where someone was going to die, and she made herself that threat. Children are not exempt from consequences when they’re causing irreversible harm. Marina’s life deserved a chance before it got to that point. However in the moment she chose to end another life, she forfeited her own.

kngKris

Brother what is your take holy shit. It’s like you’re trying to be realistic but then deflect at the most convenient times. I see this so much trying to downplay suicide, actually sickening… saying someone who was relentlessly tortured just “decided to break.” You don’t get to torment someone and then say, “well they chose to jump.” And saying that others are to blame doesn’t reduce Marina’s responsibility. Again, Marina was going to kill Shizuka in the forest, Takopi intervened. Its not “murder” in cold blood, it’s intervention. If a cop shot a school shooter before they fired the last bullet, no one calls him a murderer, even if the school shooter is a child. “Nobody is innocent” is a lazy way to pretend everyone is equally guilty. All Shizuka has done was survive the hell Marina created for her and became a little cold. Marina created hell for another person and almost killed said person. So no weirdo, they’re not equal at all.

Nova EF

Okay your doing a whole lot of assuming because who tf said anything about it being equal and who's downplaying suicide. Your talking to someone that's been to that breaking point and acted on but couldn't completely do it. Let's just say there's a reason I had to buy a new car. So trust ik how serious it is but I wouldn't sit there and blame someone for something I did.

Nova EF

And if your tryna say shizuka is innocent then your out your mind shizuka sat there and smiled felt joy and knew what her consequences were if she were to get caught but she didnt care at all. She may be justified to feel that way I get it completely but she isnt innocent at all in no way form or fashion.

kngKris

Your personal pain is skewing the logic of the story. Just because you don’t blame others for your suicidal thoughts or attempts, doesn’t mean others aren’t subject to blame when they actively cause that damage. Shizuka was beaten in the dirt. She was literally ready to die. And now suddenly the torment is gone. She gets to breathe again. Smiling at that moment doesn’t make her evil. It makes her traumatized. She didn’t just hit a breaking point on her own she was pushed there. Repeatedly. Deliberately. That matters a fuck ton, saying otherwise is stupid.

Nova EF

I not saying she evil im saying she isnt innocent. This was never about shizuka and her suicide. It was the death of marina and was killing her the right thing to do. Yes bro ik how shizuka feels and why completely but killing marina was not right. Even tho I completely get why she would think it is.

kngKris

Marina didn’t die because someone decided she “deserved” it. She died because she was literally about to kill Shizuka. Im only replying because you ignore completely on critical truth, Marina was stopped because she was actively becoming a killer in that moment. And if no one stopped her, Shizuka would be dead. Whether or not it was “right” in a philosophical sense doesn’t matter. It was necessary.

DJays32

I really respect how fair you can be at times. even though you hate her, you promise not to be stubborn. ill support ur opinion no matter.

DJays32

Maria is the result of a collective failure (including herself)

A.P. Nes

I get your righteous rage, but u have to understand children are a blank piece of paper their understanding of the world comes from their environments. They don’t know how to cope with pain, or abuse, or neglect all they do is mimic their parents. The blonde girl couldn’t process her own trauma so she wanted the other girl to feel them for her by making her go through the same shi. I agree with you on the parents though, they’re a big piece of garbage that hurt and corrupt innocent souls because they’re too weak to deal with life, they’re pathetic and selfish. I’m not angry at the blonde girl, in fact the black haired girl learned that killing can solve her problems. That’s an even bigger threat because children don’t know how to cope and that’s one hell of a coping mechanism.

A.P. Nes

Tacopi is a reflection of pure child innocence ignorance let’s see how his environment is gonna shape him, I bet he’s gonna start hurting the black haired girl that’s probably the plot twist.

A.P. Nes

Parents aren’t, they had a history too but tough luck. You have a child u better sacrifice your pain and life for them. You give them pieces from you to make them whole not the other way around.

A.P. Nes

She never intended on killing her just causing suffering. Innocence aside children’s brains are biologically unable to handle stress to that extent, they don’t know what to do to make the pain go away. They just project what they go through. I bet u the blonde hair girl has it just as bad at home, maybe even worse because of the level of suffering she’s projecting on the black haired girl, the only reason she hasn’t ended it is because she could just transfer all that pain away to her, just like her parents taught her to. It’s not fair, but she doesn’t know any better, she doesn’t know how to face her emotions and feelings cuz she’s a kid. It’s so unfair for the black haired girl, she didn’t do anything and got stuck in this loop when she wasn’t even involved. But life’s unfair, you don’t get what you deserve you get what’s given.

kngKris

Yeah thats the whole point of the show. Life IS unfair. But you and many others keep calling Marina just a “kid” and undercutting what was actually happening. Like I swear we aren’t watching the same thing. Marina pushed Shizuka to the edge of suicide and was about to beat her again, alone, in the woods. Whether it was murder or psychological torture that led to death, Shizuka was going to die. 10 year olds know right from wrong. If she didn’t know hurting someone this badly was wrong, that’s not innocence that’s proof of how dangerous she’d become. If you think that wasn’t intentional, go rewatch her face in the woods. She wasn’t unaware, she was enjoying it. This is sadistic behavior and should not be treated as just kids being kids.

Anavil Didthasom

I really appreciate your respect. A lot of people just can’t handle different opinions.

Khitar_B!

"I get that she is a child", but then you bring up “free will and accountability.” That’s a contradiction. Do you really believe a child who grew up surrounded only by violence, who saw her parents crumble and scream at each other every single day, could possibly understand anything other than hatred and aggression? How can she be expected to take accountability for actions she was never taught were wrong? She didn’t have the guidance to know that what she was doing was harmful, or that taking out her frustration on Shizuka would solve nothing

Kira

I pray for you kids man cuz wtf did I just read lmfao “I’m not angry at the blonde girl” says enough abt your character

Neroren

mild spoilers for vinland::::: the first minute of your thoughts sparked a question. I know you love vinland, and I do too, also aware it's difficult to compare, but in first episodes askeladd is the villain. Especially to Thors and the whole crew. Do you think Thors should've killed that "savage scumbag pirate" right there and then?

Leehe

The difference between a child and adult is exactly that. marina actions are of no excuse but can be explained and because she is a child, she doesn’t know any better, her parents does and she only know to cope with things with their toxic cope. Mariana isn’t an adult who choose to do bad and knows right or wrong so there is still a chance to teach her once they can get her out of this environment. Once she reached adulthood and be emotionally developed to the fullest then her actions will be totally her choice because she will know right and wrong. That’s why the parents are to blame for everything and while psychologically their actions can be explained, in my opinion it doesn’t change anything and they should be looked because they did what they did fully aware of it’s wrong. And a child actions are obviously not excuse but still can be thought the right way.

悠 のどか

I'm surprised that your reactions are considered a problem. I just enjoyed your video. This is fiction, and they are not real kids, so I don't care if I praise or criticize them. I was focusing on the pure kindness of the alien child who wanted to help his friend. When I watch other people's reaction videos and they don't agree with my opinion, I feel a little sad. But when they teach me a new perspective, I find it interesting and appreciate it. If we all had the same opinion, I might not find reaction videos enjoyable.🤔

WrathInfused

this is my favorite reaction series right now, the genuine conversations throughout the episode are great!

DJ Wilde

Nick this video makes me lobe and enjoy your content more yet that I thought I could you are just so incredibly understanding and earnest about this topic truly showing your veiw and opinions very well I may not see the exact way you do I do think change is possible if given the chance for a bad perosn to come around true that our circumstances can affect our veiw point on life but just as you said we can also choose to change that! I would so absolutely love to be able to get a chance to meet you one of these days!

Daniel iacomi

I love these reactions the most out of every other anime tbh. This anime feels so real, like we are witnesses to these insane situations and abuse made by the parents. This has to be the most thought provoking anime of the last 10 years. This anime is truly a GEM among mid releases of this year.

Sulphys

Nick pls check out: "The Summer Hikaru Died" and it's Opening, it's has creepy atmosphere and amazing visuals!!

A.P. Nes

You come from a place of personal values that come from prior experiences you’ve been through and I respect that and your opinion. I come from a place of understanding, I wanna understanding human nature and why people do the things they do. So just because we have different perspectives doesn’t mean we should try to hurt each other, instead u can read my comment and be open to it and I can do the same. In fact I can argue that you’re a bully, you insulted my character because I had a different perspective. Maybe you and the blonde girl aren’t that far off you do things because of what feels right to u not because of what’s objectively happening. You should think about that! All love ❤️❤️❤️

BojacksReacts

I know people won’t agree, and honestly I don’t care. Like nich I’m stating my opinion. I’m more upset at the parent than marina. (Yes even at this point in anime, excluding my knowledge of the manga) as someone who has faced the reality that my kids can be bullied at any moment, you don’t think I want to protect my kids from that? You don’t like I sometimes have the most disgusting thoughts go through my head? But what happens when one gives in. We become no better than that darkness. Similar to this story my child was bullied by an abused girl, strangely enough it was also their childhood friend. But this girl wasn’t doing it to be hurtful, even so I was pissed beyond belief, however, despite my anger, I am not blind to see the real issues. Kids know right from wrong that’s true, and they should be held accountable, but in the hind sight of things it falls upon the parents to make sure their child is growing the proper way. Marinas parents failed her, and the result of their failure, along with MARINAS own actions is what created this. Just keep in mind, the bullied can easily become the bully. Let’s keep a fair viewpoint as the story continues

Lina

why are you lying?

Lina

it was only fated cuz shizuka and takopi are just like marina 💀

Lina

right? 🤣

Lina

just becuz takopi is different doesnt mean every1 should be like takopi and if they are different that they are wrong, evil or that it justifies their death 💀 also guess what tako shizuka and marina are more similar than you probably could ever imagine

CHUNTARO

Lying about what?

kngKris

Your argument is muddled, emotional, and ultimately meaningless. If you’re gonna say Shizuka or Takopi are ‘just like Marina,’ you’re either soft spoiling (which is cringe and people like you are the reason art isn’t enjoyable) or saying it as a lazy cop-out. Yea death might’ve been tragic, but necessary. And that sure as hell doesn’t make me or Nick evil for recognizing it.

Bob

Like the video :(

Ali Al-Gattan

bro please no need to disable the comments.. I want to comment on ep 4 so bad.. just ignore poeple I know you can

krzysjungler

bruh, I agree with azuma murder is still murder, there is no excuse even if you would kill most evil person on planet its still bad

Alex

terrible take honestly....

loLo

yo nick, i think if you say karma happend to marina, i think dying is her easy way out, so I don't think that is karma.. same for her parents.

Sign

Most asian kids with a older sibling grew up with parents like Azuma

angelo

just stop ur not a good person for saying this lol

angelo

this does not make you a good person we all have evil in us and whoever inflict that evil in other weather kid or parent or adult they deserve to feel the same so no blonde girl is not justified by sayiung its her parents fault its her own fault and she desevres to die because the world will be better off without her

Anubis 04

I mean it is obvious that Marinas upbringing doesn't excuse her behavior. It explains it and makes the watcher understand her feelings but she obviously well aware of what she was doing but still killing her for her actions is still wrong. Self justice is always wrong. Yes Marina deserved to be punished for her actions but not by killing her. Pls don't kill ne in the comments I also have been bullied in school and suicidal thoughts and I also wished my bullies death and even worse but now many years later I think that my thoughts were wrong and the pure hatred in my heart was influencing my rationality. (Sorry for my bad english. English isn't my first language.)

Nel Fănel

at least they have a home to sleep and food, AND FAMILY. Naruto dont have neither of these, except a rent home, when everyone is Marina, not only Marina

Sign

Are you seriously comparing Real life to anime 😭