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A More Civilized Q&A - February 2021 (Patreon)

Published:
2021-02-24 17:01:02
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2021-02-25 00:35:29
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2026-06
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Hello and welcome to the first (well... technically the second) episode of A More Civilized Q&A, our Patreon-exclusive podcast where we answer your questions every month. This time, we spend some time pontificating on the nature of media criticism, debating retail lightsabers, and examining the beautiful maskless face of Plo Koon.

Show Notes

Wicked Lasers LaserSaber Official Video

Obi-Wan vs Darth Maul Re-Enactment 

"An Anthology movie about a young Palpatine training under Plagueis starring Tom Holland as Sheev himself. Thoughts?"

Lightsaber Rifle 

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Marandahir

FYI there’s now a comic between Anakin and Obi-Wan that discusses why the Jedi use laser swords and not other light-weapons or blasters. “Let me tell you something Anakin. When I was a Padawan, I came up with the idea of two short-blades sabers attached to a thin chain.” “Master… that sounds amazing.” “I agree. I would have looked very impressive - assuming I didn’t chop off my foot trying to use it. I suggested it to Qui-Gon, and he told me what I’m about to tel you. It is about how we wish to be seen, Anakin, and how that ties into the central mission of the Jedi Order. We do not want to be powerful, we wish to stand tall against the dark. Our tools reflect that goal. Especially our chosen weapon. We all wield the same one, with minor variations, the lightsaber. We could make Kyber Bombs or Blasters… indeed it’s been tried. There are a few weapons like that in the sealed archives. But anyone can fire a blaster. Very few can safely and skillfully wield a lightsaber. Everyone in the Galaxy knows this to be true. We want our opponents to know that we use a weapon that requires intention, training, and choice. We choose a weapon with limitations — with difficulties. You cannot use a lightsaber to destroy a city or a planet. Every death or injury it inflicts must be precisely chosen. The lightsaber tells the Galaxy that the Jedi are not destroyers. We are protectors.” “But… the Sith use them as well.” “True. The Sith would give you their reasons, I’m sure. But ultimately, I believe they use lightsabers because they like to think anything the Jedi can do, they can do better. They are, of course wrong.” The same comic then jumps to Vader and Sidious with a similar but different lesson. “Lord Vader. Fight me.” “You fight like a Jedi. You fight as if this were your only weapon. It is not. The Sith’s weapon is not the lightsaber, it is the Dark Side of the Force. And the Dark Side touches everything. The Saber is merely a symbol. A flame, signifying the great blaze of the Dark Side. The Inferno that consumes all who come against it. All.”

Verdigree

Dang, Plo Koon's mission to a cooking contest is wild

xenolon

Not gonna lie, maskless Plo Koon kinda looks like someone forgot to do their homework assignment and just drew The Predator from memory as the teacher was collecting.

CertainSign

This is the depth I crave 👏

Charles R

Woohoo! So excited for this!

Thomas Wagner

Happy to support! Love the podcast!

Aaron Wood

maskless Plo should have been mosaic'd

Charles Stuart

Looks like this ep is approaching 5-star runtime. Hope this is a sign of things to come. Can’t wait to listen.

bears

Obi-Wan Darth Maul link is broken

Gin Riot

Big Yoda has me dying

Jaan Eerik Sõmermaa

Is the link for the mp3 also connect to a RSS feed or nah? Anyway, great stuff! :D

Andrew

There's a private RSS link in the "My membership" tab

Natalie Welty

As someone who went down the Lightsaber path for a bit(honestly still do semi-frequently) I do think what Austin is looking for is an Ultrasaber. For the cost they are some of the better for sparring that I’ve played around with. They are highly customizable, I’ve had good experiences with their customer service(or just quick help from fans on their forum) and I would recommend over similar options from like Saberforge. If you want to dish out a lot of money Saberforges top line stuff can’t be beat but I’m honestly not as impressed with their overall designs or durability for the cost. If you ever make it to Galaxy’s Edge at the Disney parks their lightsaber building is a fun experience and I found worth the cost, but with those(and the Black Series and Legacy sabers officially produced by Hasbro) the LEDs are in the blades so they get the cool blade ignition that most fan ones don’t have but if you smack them around too much the LEDs will break and you’ll get dead zones in your saber. Hope this helps!

deepFlaw

My understanding (disclaimer: based on tweets I saw a while back) is all that Wicked Lasers stuff is “legal” in that it’s legal for them to sell it to you. It’s just not, y’know, legal for *you to operate* without a license. And that’s for their general products, not this stuff that specifically invites people using it dangerously. Seriously wonder how many people have gotten injured thanks to that whole situation.

Natalie Welty

As far as new Canon Books there actually is a Galan Erso book, called Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel, that isn’t exactly what Natalie wanted but does spend time on the backstory between Galan, Lyra, and Orson Krennic that lead to their split. The High Republic stuff is neat, definitely read Light of the Jedi first and then decide where you want to go from there as it is very much a primer on the era with a lot of place making and setup. After that Into the Dark was good for a more focused group of characters in that High Republic era and a lot of talk about different paths for the Jedi that may be of interest. Other then that the first new Thrawn book is really good and can be read without any context of his appearance in Rebels as it’s a prequel to all that(the next books are worse and are set in between his appearances in Rebels). I really like the Phasma novel, it’s a very different style of book with some great characters who then continue in the Black Spire tie-in book for the parks, which is also surprisingly good. Bloodline(by the same author as Into the Dark) is another good one that tells about the series of events leading to Leia leaving the New Republic Senate and forming the Resistance. On the new canon comics side all 3 different Darth Vader comic series have been good, but especially that second volume written by Charles Soule(who would also write the Rise of Kylo Ren comic and then most recently Light of the Jedi). The first volume of the Darth Vader comic introduces Doctor Aphra who is a great disaster Lesbian character who then spins-off into her own series, it’s absolutely the gayest thing going on in Star Wars and it’s great for that.

Natalie Welty

If this isn’t the best place to put all these I can send an email too lol

Matt

Seconding the recommendations for Thrawn Ascendancy and all the Claudia Gray books (Into the Dark, Bloodline, Master and Apprentice, Leia Princess of Alderaan, Lost Stars)

Faden Cross

I did stage combat in college and I highly recommend an Ultrasaber. Side note, I am certified by a stage combat fight school in Lightsabers and broadswords (they are basically the same style of fighting).

eddie phlash

Lost Stars is the only new continuity book I've read, but I highly enjoyed it. Would read more by her for sure!

Pazuzu

Hey, if I wanted to submit a question, how would I do that?

Matt

Choosy Jedi choose Anakin

civilized

Send it to amorecivilizedage@gmail.com!

Conor White

Imagine my joy as not one but two of my questions were answered.

Exa Moseley

I’m can’t wait for the 15 hour podcast on the Mortis arc

Exa Moseley

Austin mentioning how Obi-Wan should have finished the job is interesting in light of how much The Clone Wars focuses on Obi-Wan’s battle against attachment, and how he fails in that moment to uphold his strong belief in needing to detach by not doing what “needs” to be done

brownlantern

Y'all mentioned Obi-wan learning about Vader, but on another note there's a great couple pages in the Vader comic where Boba Fett reveals the name of the pilot who destroyed Death Star, and Vader learns he has a son. Its well done

Kristopher L Arseneault

It's interesting, because it's done in two comics: the general "Star Wars" one where you just see Fett giving the Vader the news, then Vader's own comic, where you get to see his inner thoughts when he's given it. Really, Gillen's Vader is fantastic and anyone who likes Star Wars should check it out. Also I hope y'all look at some of the stuff like Star Wars Tales' "Thank the Maker". Has one of my favorite comic panels of all time.

Patrick Kay

Hi Civilized Crew. I wish I had a question or comment more substantial for you all to chew on during the podcast, but I just wanted to add that I'm finally done listening and I love this. My one recommendation is that I really really hope you guys cover the other new canon material (books, comics, etc), which is consistently much better than the old EU as fond as we all are of it. You're going to find a lot to dig there!

Mads Dahl Olavsbråten

Loving the podcast! Just got to the question about kids grasping this stuff and heard Austin say "it's not like this is for 6 year olds". Funny that you should say that, because here in Norway every episode has a nice little "6+" in the corner at the beginning. So here they believe that 6 year olds can watch all the death, torture and politicking at least.

Chloe

Bloodline isn't a detective story per se, but it does involve investigations by Leia as a senator. That's probably one of the best canon novels

SpillboBaggins

The Vader comics are the best things in Star Wars right now.

Craig Spiers

Hi, I'm SD. I was mortified and my heart dropped when Rob doubled down on the sneer for reading my question, but I wholeheartedly accept that I wrote it like shit and deserve the reading it was given. Thank you, though, for noting the difference in games - video games is my background and career, and I am used to having a limited amount of creative writing going on around me. I appreciate you all taking the time to answer a Q you could have dismissed as trolling, and I'll reflect on the answers you gave :)

James W

Against lightsaber spears: a problem with equating lightsabers with their real-world counterparts is the big difference in how the components behave. As we see in The Phantom Menace, a lightsaber blade cuts through a hilt with ease, so a weapon that is mostly hilt feels like it would be very vulnerable in a duel. It's the same reason I thought the crossguard saber looked so dumb in the Force Awakens trailer: there's no way lightsaber "quillons" could offer any protection to the wielder's hands. Thankfully they developed a form for Kylo Ren that used the crossguard for (suitably nasty) offense, instead. While I'm being a giant nerd about this stuff: straight blades only imo! Dooku's curved hilt was such a cool solution to giving the lightsaber a different feel without compromising the established internal logic. The Darksaber on the other hand... the name is just about the acceptable side of goofy, but that katana blade has got to go. (For me, YMMV, peace and love.)

Beyond the Pale

my life for a supercut of christopher lee delivering denzel's best lines from training day

Keven Aubin

Oh no. I totally forgot I asked the question about yoda and the high republic... romance possibilities

Zachary Jurbina

Yes! Then I could finally have a place to talk Star Wars that I can trust.

Zachary Jurbina

You could always explain it as the shaft being coated in something like cortosis or beskar which then makes it extra special for using a rare metal. And naw we need full on scimitar-shaped blades. No reason why a magic laser sword needs to be a always be a flashlight.

Zachary Jurbina

A Star Wars story idea I'm willing to share because I hope someone just goes ahead and does it is a queer romance between two Jedi during the Clone Wars. There's the obvious subtext of their love being forbidden but also of them realizing who they are amidst a galactic crisis and the system they grew up in being destroyed. They should still get a happy ending though amongst the tragedy because I don't need Star Wars to also kill its gays. It could also be a jumping off point to highlight how the Jedi are hypocritical about their anti-attachment rules (Ki Adi-Mundi's wives, Kit Fisto and Aayla Secura's affair, the technicality that Jedi can have casual sex, etc.)

Eve Golden Woods

I have a question based on listening to the eps so far (which are wonderful, thank you so much for all your hard work). I want to frame the question, but that might get a bit long, so I'll put the actual question in its own paragraph at the end. I'm not a huge star wars fan myself - I've watched all the movies except Rise of Skywalker, but never read any of the books/comics/games, and watching along with the pod is my first time seeing clone wars. So maybe this questions is something that has come up in other media and will seem very stupid, but I want to ask anyway. One of the things I keep thinking about with regards to the Jedi/the Force is the religious angle. I know there's a lot of gross orientalist shit in the way that it all gets framed in the actual movies, but especially in the Original Trilogy, I find it fascinating because it reminds me so much of monastic Catholicism. I grew up in Ireland, which was one of the prime historical sites for that, and so it's something I connect to a lot. Especially with Yoda on Dagobah, which feels so much like St. Columba on Iona or St. Kevin in Glendalough. (And that, I think, makes the use of Skellige as the real life location for Luke's retreat in The Last Jedi so appropriate.) But all of this feels like something that gets completely lost in the transition from OT to the prequels and Clone Wars. To put it bluntly, St. Kevin was never on the Vatican council. In my opinion, it seems like a real lost opportunity. I think it would have been incredibly interesting to get a prequel version of Yoda who was always that kind of slightly outside the hierarchy hermit style character. And in general I would love to see more of the way the Jedi relate to the Force as something metaphysical and spiritual. (Again, maybe this is covered extensively in other Star Wars media. I have no idea.) So, actual question: How do you feel about the Jedi as a monastic order? Is that something you would have liked the prequels to get into more, or do you think it would have muddied the story that they tell about liberalism and fascism? And do you think it would have benefitted or taken from Yoda's character if he had always been a kind of strange, mystical hermit figure instead of being central to power? PS. Cursed idea: Timothee Chalamet as young Sheev.

Joshua Loomis

I vote Steve Harrington as Young Sheev. But they would cast Timothee Chalamet...

Michael K

I'm not saying you need to add more to your plate, but I am saying that if you did a Star Wars Book Club at a higher Patreon level, I would sub to it without a second thought.

joey

granted I am only 10 minutes into this and just joined patreon entirely to support this podcast, but I will admit this is my favorite thing to listen to. a year ago I truly would not believe it if you told me i would pay money to listen to more of a podcast about star wars, but yknow what, here we are. thank you so much.