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Hey folks,

Last week the creators of whimsical life simulation Ooblets were subject to a torrent of harassment after they announced they had signed a deal with Epic to cover the cost of development in return for exclusivity on the Epic Game Store. Regardless of how you feel about the platform in question, the way in which certain elements within the gaming community responded is utterly defenceless. 

It also stands in opposition to everything Noclip stands for.

Noclip was started to create a bridge of empathy between devs & players. To help gamers understand the process of games creation and to consider that developers are people. By getting developers to open up about their process and allow players into their creative vision. But moments like this are a large part of why so many people leave development. Criticism and harassment have no common ground, and sadly too many people within the games community cannot seem to see where one begins and another ends - or perhaps they'd rather not know.

So how can we combat this negativity and help support these developers? Well, all I know is video, but it appears to be a pretty powerful form of communication. So I figured we could make a video of support to publish on the channel that might remind them (and other developers) that for every person harassing them there are hundreds more people pulling for them.

So if you like our work, appreciate devs and/or just want to push against the tide of negativity that too often plagues our community - take a minute to record a short message of support on your phone or camera and send it to: 

----> POSTCARDS @ NOCLIP.VIDEO   <-----

It can be as short as "Best of luck with the rest of development" or a few sentences about the game and what you like about it. But please send something positive, reaffirming, and powerful!  Feel free to attach to an email, use Dropbox, Google Drive or whatever works. 

And we don't just mean game players. We want messages from you developers too!

I'll edit all your messages into a big video-postcard of support for the devs which we'll publish publicly. Let's come together to remind developers that there are thousands of us who appreciate them and their work.  

If you have any questions feel free to leave them in the comments below. 

But please, don't just read this a move on with your day. Pick up your phone and record something. This is a real moment where we can come together to support developers and push back against the negativity that too often drives the conversation within out community. 

So please...

GET FILMING! GET EMAILING! FOR DEVS!

Thanks so much,

Danny

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Comments

Quinn

Thanks Danny. Whatever people's feelings about various storefronts, this kind of harassment is exactly what gives gaming a bad name.

Brian Lund

This is a wonderful idea!

Charalampos Koundourakis

This is a great initiative (which will no doubt earn you some shouting from various people) and I will send my contribution as soon as I can!

Ruwan Soepboer

I agree that they don't deserve all the hate that they get but the post they made about the exclusivity wasn't respectful to the players.

Shell Comics

Done! Just to be clear, the email address is 'postcards@noclip.video' yes?

Jazz Jackrabbit

Hey Danny, I would love it if you did either a video or maybe a podcast on the whole Epic Games exclusivity thing, ideally with some guests who can share their viewpoints. I feel like something like this is desperately needed at this moment in time so people can maybe get a better understanding.

/noclip

yea that's a solid idea.

Ronin Storm

So, I'm not going to make a video - just not something I'm personally comfortable with - but I'd be super happy to do something I could write down, even physically and then send as a picture of a thing, or just a paragraph of support. Would that be a format of thing that could be useful to this effort?

Christopher Kelly

It's a sad situation, it's terrible that they have become victim to such a torrent of abuse. Everyone saying it is justified because of their statement, communication via discord or anything else isn't really looking at the big picture. The tongue in cheek nature of the post is of course directed at their patrons, people who have followed them for months and know their sense of humour and share in it. Of course picking that statement out of context and planting right in the middle of all of the other corporations defending Epic exclusivity then it does come off as disrespectful. 99% of gamers didn't know about this game until a few days ago! Patrons haven't been promised any platform for release before now, they are just an indie dev working on a thing, and Epic came to them to help make the game and they thought that was awesome! Apart from the "baby gamers" comment, I think every bad response has been fabricated by the angry gamer mob. It's an awful situation and I hope this becomes a better situation for the devs soon. As Jazib said, I would love to hear more about Epic games exclusivity if you do more podcasts.

Yuri Sizov

This, exactly. This is not a cut and dry situation, it's a controversy. Gamers are frustrated with EGS deals and this dev didn't make matters better with their behavior on blog and on discord. I would prefer Noclip staying away from controversies. At the end of the day, Danny's personal views may not be to everyone's liking.

Noctum28

Some of the reactions to the exclusivity deal have certainly been horrific and while I appreciate your gesture as such, I can't help but think that the developers in this case sit in a mess of their own making. The way they announced the deal was bound to cause controversy. Also, how they treated longtime supporters who are now unable to obtain the game in the foreseeable future due to the limitations of the Epic Store, was deplorable.

Mihai Simionescu

There is nothing controversial about it. The developers said that they don't owe people anything (aside their Patrons) and that if you're upset about getting it on Steam, just wait. And then called people entitled for thinking they are owed anything. Just because the game is on EGS and not Steam. They are entitled to put their game on whatever platform they choose. Everyone else is entitled to not buy their game and get on with their lives. There is no controversy here. People think they have a right in other PEOPLE's lives and decisions, and proceed to emit death threats when they don't get their way. All the developers then did was defend their position and humanity, but if they do that, they are not "respectful".

Mihai Simionescu

They absolutely have NOTHING to apologize for. All they did was use a tone of "hey everyone. You're all functioning adults. Do you really care so much about where you buy/play the game?". They were foolish enough to believe people will not send death threats, racist remarks, sexist remarks, just because of their choice of storefront. There is no equating or rationalizing here. If you hate EGS for whatever reason you tell yourself, don't buy the game. That's an adult reaction. Going on a post destined to offer support to the devs saying "I won't be offering support" is a questionable move though. There is no defending racism, toxicity, death and rape threats. And I loathe the double standard or critiquing those that take a stand against such behavior. There is nothing wrong with standing up to bigotry. They shouldn't need to apologize for defending their humanity against hate speech.

Maxwell Frattolin

That's really not what I was trying to say. I don't think they deserve any abuse or death threats. I just really don't agree with the lack of apology in case their words hurt someone.

Darko Volkov

I don't think they deserve abuse of death threats either, but I am of the opinion that they should fuck off and stop talking. If they want to make their game that's cool, they just don't need to be compete asses about the exclusivity deal.

Maxwell Frattolin

You actually make a really good point. I'm going to remove my original comment. This really should just be a place of support.

Yuri Sizov

Controversy is created when large enough groups of people have a different opinion on a matter. You saying, that there's not controversy, it's just that all those people are wrong, while the devs are right, is exactly why this is a controversy.

Bavo Debraekeleer

You could write something down and than film it by showing it to the camera?

Lucy Yearwood

I'm not one to put my face on the internet but if you did a digital card like the one for Jeremy then I'd be happy to contribute. But this is a great initiative. Let's combat those gamer bastards with some positivity

Ian James

Honest question, what are the limitations you're talking about? Is EGS only available in certain countries or something?

Ian James

Can you lead with this sort of comment instead of telling someone they can fuck off in a thread that came about because of overreactions to their actions? I can understand disagreeing, but construct an argument and give it, don't just blurt out.

Ian James

They could say that they misread the situation, which I'm sure they have, but nothing they've done warrants the toxic responses they've received. It blows my mind that people can get this upset over the store stuff. I really don't get it.

Ronin Storm

That's not a bad idea. Thanks for the thought!

Kev Dellaq

"Online harassment and death threats are wrong" seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Noctum28

It seems the Epic Store doesn't support all currencies that Steam for example does. SidAlpha mentioned it in one of his videos and has links to the discord discussions in the description here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJHcMo_LqNg

Brandon K Gann

Hi Danny, I have a question: Because I'm not tech savvy in the slightest and can't figure out up from down in trying to record anything of any kind, I was curious if you were willing to take comments in written form, and selecting a few to read on video for the postcard? I know this is additional work for you and can understand if it's a no, but I would like to add my positive message, but don't have the technical know-how to do so. If you ARE willing to take a written message to read aloud, I will attach it below as a response to this comment. If not, you can simply ignore it. Regardless of your answer, thanks for taking the time to read this if you do and much more importantly, thank you for rallying your fanbase to combat toxicity. The world desperately need it. Thanks again and have a wonderful rest of your day! P.S. Just finished the Hitman docs and once again kudos to the entire team!

Brandon K Gann

To every person working on and contributing to Ooblets: I know negativity, hatred, and outright monstrous behavior always seem to be the things that stick out the most because we as humans, for some bizarre reason, default in focusing on that over the positive stuff, but I just wanted to say that those who choose to act in the wrong are never worth the time given to acknowledge that hatred. I do not game on PC so as long as the Epic Games Store has been a thing, I never understood why its such a problem for people to go to somewhere that isn't Steam. Because of this lack of knowledge/experience/etc., I'm fully aware the bias I hold in the position of it not being a big deal. As developers, you made the best decision for you, to continue to live your dreams the best way you could, and because of this, people are throwing childish temper-tantrums just because you are not acquiescing to how they want things. I'm aware it's so hollow to hear the words from someone whom you've never met, and probably never meet, say to focus on all THESE comments instead of the death threats, the harassment, and otherwise general horrible childish fits. Easy for me to say, as I have not experienced what you've been going through. But, and I can NOT stress this enough, there are people out here who support you, want you to succeed as much as possible, and do it in the way you want without ever even having heard of you prior to this incident. Because at the end of the day, it's the people who will buy your game because you made a fun and interesting thing that looks cool who will be there for you, not the horrible excuses for humans who all they want to do is be the worst, throwing out their insults because they know they can hide and there's little anyone can do to prevent them, then move on to the next person unfortunate enough to receive their vitriol because you didn't lower yourselves to their level. No matter what, you made the best choice, not because EPIC is better than Steam, or it may give you more exposure, but because doing what you love for the enjoyment of those who respect you as people first for as long as possible is what makes the long hours and dedication worth it. Keep at it, don't let evil get you down, and know no matter much hate you get, know you're instantly a lot better off than they will ever be.

Darko Volkov

I don't really feel like I have to. They've shown themselves to be assholes and they can fuck off. If you can't imagine why I'd say that it's because you haven't been following what's been going on.

Peter Reinhold

I am mostly sad that its more or less impossible to write a criticism of the Ooblet devs at this point in time, without being thrown in the same box as the people outthere that have sent threats or harassed the devs. That being said, I personally don't think the situation is as clear-cut as Danny presents it, and I don't want to provide financial means to produce a video furthering what I think have turned into a marketing stunt of enormous proportions, so I will pause my patronage of NoClip for the time being, even though i've loved almost every video produced until now. And it's not that i'm angry about the EGS exclusivity directly, I can fully understand why a small team grabs at that possiblity, its more that I feel that they do not respect their customers, us, the gamers, and I will not partake in anything that somehow excuses or pardons the way they have communicated with the persons that under normal circumstances would be the ones paying their salary. I'm hoping that the NoClip crew are willing to take a step or two back, and look at the slightly bigger picture.

/noclip

Thanks for your support! Take care.

/noclip

Thanks for your support. Take care.

Ethan Hunt

Hi Danny, when do we have until to get these sent through? I'm gonna film mine by my webcam tomorrow night

Bison

I just don't understand the pure hate and vitroil coming from (certain segments of) the gaming community, I'll try and record something because Ooblets is a game I've been looking forward to for an amazingly long time but I don't know how I can counter something I fundamentally don't understand.

Bison

Also dismayed to see an apparent fan of NoClip supporting this type of abuse. I've always made an assumption that the creators I support as well as others that support them have something in common, that we can all get behind a good, positive cause, because that's something that draws me into certain communities, like Giant Bomb. But seeing communities I'm part of (including GB) turn sour makes me feel afraid and unable to trust those around me, extremely disappointing.

Theron Miles

Awesome work Danny. Much respect.

Bison

I still don't get it, I've read their statement and I'm not getting any of those things you've mentioned, maybe there's more to this but I'm really not in the mental or emotional state to be seeking out any more horrible things on the internet. Ooblets is a delightful, positive game and I've seen nothing but nice, good natured things coming from the team.

/noclip

Friday is probably the cut off - thanks so much Ethan!

/noclip

Yea me too Michael. It's disappointing for sure. My hope is that moments like this allow those people to see what our community stands for, and gives them the choice to either come together, or leave. Noclip is a force for good. My eyes are open to what's going on here, and I think this is a great opportunity to do a little bit of good. Not just for them, but for all devs. I've had messages from other developers all night saying how much this is needed. Thanks man.

TechTurtle

Is it a pain to buy the game? Why? Is it a pain to buy multiple games? Why? Is it a pain to buy add-ons/DLC for the game? Why? Is it a pain to apply add-ons/DLC once purchased? Why? Is it a pain to run the game? Why? Can you play with friends? Is it a pain to play with friends? Why? I dont care about exclusivity. If the EGS does what you would expect it to do, then its just another launcher on your hard drive. The difference between the EGS and every other launcher is more or less what these questions are asking. I don't play fortnite and the only reason I have EGS installed is because they gave out Shadow Complex for free. Before it was the EGS it was the Epic Games Launcher, once all the fortnite money came pouring in they turned it into the Epic Games Store, and spent money on getting people on board by incentivizing why you should go with them. But instead of building their library of exclusives they should also build their library of features along side. As long as they keep making the EGS something worth having installed even more so than just having access to your games then cool another launcher to take up space I guess.

Clay A Binkley

Ahhh Shadow Complex... wish Epic never bought Chair. Don't know much about Ooblets. Not my kinda game. Sorry the Internet was the Internet to you. Hopefully the ESA didn't leak any of your addresses.

Yuri Sizov

Yeah, but it's not the whole story. If you refer to the OP of this comment thread we are talking in, you'll see, that while death threats are inexcusable, this dev team has shown questionable behavior, so actively supporting them may rub people the wrong way. If Danny was organizing a collection of kind thoughts against online harassment without talking about specific victims of such behavior, people would not be complaining. But supporting someone, who people find wrong, because some other person took their belief to extreme, is not cut and dry.

Martin

shitty company makes shitty statement, said company is surprised when the children can't behave themselves, said company stirs the pot even more because hell why not.... and now because you have personal biases we have this post, which is going to anger even more people. what a mess.

Federico Leonel

I got a simple answer for you, Linux, then I can add, freedom, choice and do not force to use a platform, or a seller, then features a ton of them, you can check that just googling it, and broken promises are not for free.

Jan Klass

Their announcement was well written in the first part, but derailed, and especially so in followup comments by them, into a dismissive, toxic tone insulting their very fans that supported them with money to keep their development going. That’s not acceptable. Neither is harassment and stuff, but I will not publicly announce I support them. They fucked up just as much and made it clear they do not care for reasonable and fair criticism or their fans in general. It seems they want an echo chamber for consumers, and nothing else. Sadly, everyone reasonable in between is the one hurt and powerless - the fans that got invested, that care. That articulated reasonable criticism and were labeled entitled babies. Fuck the harassers, but also, fuck those ignorant fools as well.

Jan Klass

I don’t think there was ever a point in time where you could criticize them. They made their announcement and immediately went into the “entitled, babies and ranters” rhetoric against their fans. So I don’t think it’s too late. It was simply never possible, or at least never heard by them anyway.

Milos Radmilac

I don't like EGS, and tbh I didn't like their statement about joining it either, but man some of the stuff I've read. They don't deserve the harassment. So I won't buy the game on EGS, but I will send my video in. No one deserves death or rape threats. Just no. We can discuss, no need for threats.

FERRERE Clarence

Hello, Hum... I agree on principle that harassement and threats should never be tolerated, but what about the highly condescending blog post and Discord messages the devs in question are responsible for that started the whole "attack" ? It doesn't excuse anything from the people attacking them, but surely those devs are at least partly responsible for what happened given how they handled the situation. In fact, it is my belief that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them to an extent. It's only by recognising that part of responsability in how your life plays out that you can learn from it and grow as a person. If it's always the others' fault, why bother self-reflecting ? I know your endeavour is a hearfelt one and that you want to do what you see as the right thing to do in this situation, but I fear that if you release a video totally biased towards the developers in this particular instance, you will rob them of that potential for growth. They have my support for the attacks and threats they received as well as the Epic deal they struck which is a godsent for small studios, but I will never stand behind the statements they released as it would be intellectually dishonest for me to not apply the same level of scrutiny to both sides of the argument.

Rostyslav

I'm sorry, but it's hard to support those, who throw their patrons under the bus, and claiming they're entitled, and they don't need your money anymore.

Tunonscourt

Hey Danny. I have been a fan of your reporting for at least ten years, and i have never paid anything for it. I want you to grow, and i want you to be as neutral as you can. You have my 5 bucks :) + For the Doom doc.