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Opinion, please! (Patreon)

Published:
2021-04-21 18:27:38
Imported:
2026-06

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As Mia hasn't provided her next Queen vo set yet, I've gone to the process to finalize each scene. This is actually really cool, I can bring every scene quality wise to the same level! 

Now, when watching "The Witness", I'm questioning if it's too harsh. What I've done now is to make the gf to beg for sex with the vo. Still, her being cuffed, dunno if I'm still crossing the line. PH removed the original version. I'm trying to find the way to make this not her doing it against her will, if you know what I mean...

Hints, opinions please!

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Citor3

Oh, forgot to mention; new feature added; you can hop to any body within the scene when allowed. Ofc it's just a POV feature, not the full control.

Meklon5

What about two versions for this scene? 🤔☺

BiddyBoy

Hm. I see your predicament here. However, I think from the story you have produced so far its not something you can avoid. Both of them have been captured, they are being brainwashed and hypnotized to want pleasure. Best way out (in my opinion ) and would honestly be pretty hot would be that once she has been pumped enough and the brainwashing starts taking effect; to release the shackles and have her wrap her legs around the guy showing how she has been reconditioned. This will further push the cucking angle and give more erotic distress to the protagonist as he watches and is being forcefully pleasured himself. But, this leaves the same problem, she didn't ask for it. Well. Neither did the guy. If we are all going to be okay with the guy being pleasured against his will, why is it different for her. The submission kink goes both ways, many of us enjoy the idea of being controlled, being pleasured to extremes even against our wills. I'm happy if you want to ease it up, but like I said, if we are cool with doing it to the guy, then we should be okay with doing it to the girl or all of this is wierd y'know.

BiddyBoy

Love that as well! more angles to enjoy the scene always appreciated!!!

PlaceboX

I really dont see any problem here. I mean the Protagonist gets hardcore raped by women, so why its not allowed with her? And we are talking about a "darker" themed game. Its not like that she begs to be fucked by a dog or something... This "against the will" is the essence of the game. -> Please dont remove it :/

SteinerK

Consensual non-consent?

G

Personally, this is my favorite scene you've made (that I've seen). The cuckolding is great. Her pleasure after the original protestations are fantastic, works with the whole vibe and tone of the entire story. her begging for it just makes it hotter, especially with any direct words to the player of how good/better it is. Only wish there was some sph in there (I'd take it in every scene tbh, but would seem to work best in a scene with a direct comparison lol). Side note, would be great if one day in a future project there would be a way to adjust your size, possibly enable alternate VOs to match. Lots of work, I know but would really up the interactivity and customize the experience!

ClyffordStill666

I agree with the other patrons: the erotic tension comes from not just having your body dominated, but also from forfeiting your will when faced with overwhelming pleasure. Also, this is art, not real people. I prefer to support an artist rather than the regular porn industry that doesn't fully compensate or care for their actors. No matter how many changes PH makes to their content, this ethical conflict will still be fundamental to their business model.

MrK

My thought would be to have the first part of the scene be with a machine, then have her beg for it, then introduce the guy. Second choice (without any re-animating) would be to have her begging for it from the beginning: maybe have some sort of pink 'brainwash' mist come down? Third choice would be what Chase said.

Citor3

Thanks guys, I got this bad vibe "rape" type of scene. Everything folds together, everything is explained, even this scene so that it makes sense.

BlandManiac

Don't know how to incorporate it in scene or if it would be ok, but random idea: before entering house some kind of warning sign "by entering this territory I consent to this and that...(a.k.a you have been warned what can happen in house, if you did not take it seriously it's your fault)" Or maybe some kind of "internal thoughts/mind read" during scene.

Citor3

This is something you could help me to polish; I'm not really good with the words. I thought to give a general warning when starting the game, like "A word from the creator: This game contains BDSM content, before you want to proceed, please google about the topic. Play it through and after that give your opinion! If you want to comment midway, you are free to do so, but every turn has a reason and everything folds together, the only thing required is your patience." ... or something like that. Please help to refine so that it sounds professional and cool :D

Citor3

that's something I have to think also...

BlandManiac

If I get some good idea I will write it, but since English is not my first language it is not easy for me either :)

SexyTomAfterDark

I love the cuck holding scene. And I love tentacle sex scenes. It's similar with them. I think it's best if she resists and when the brain washing and fucking starts, after some time she realizes that this is way better and she loves it and get addicted to the fucking. So it's going from non-consenual to... "I love it!". :)

Callum McIntyre

it seems more dub con than non con and it doesnt take much for it to be come very con, two versions seems like the way to go but i think its better showing off that resistance. it makes the weight on the players helplessness come through i feel

Scientific scotsman

afew people have said similar things here, I think the story you have set up needs this scene but if you can't avoid it seeming unconsentual then I would make sure to include a trigger warning and a way to skip the scene for those who aren't comfortable with that. its like how you can skip the mission at the airport in call of duty but they didnt remove it because it was a big part of the story

SluttyPuppy

Well I agree with SexyTom2011 you could go that route but it could still be ruled non-consensual flagged by the algorithms. A another way you could go is re write the scene to she's been sex starved for days and she's cuffed because she would fuck anything with how desperate she was which would lead into the mind break and brain washing but in this case it would be consensual with how desperate she was for anything to be inserted to her. That would allow you to use the begging audio safely and still be able to post trailers with audio.

tsaric

Brainwashed sleeper agent perhaps? Conditioned to recruit male "volunteers"? She was corrupt all along?

Austin Cantu

Idk I personally like how it is now... I like the thought that she is forced to want it almost

Kees Vlees

She should be forced at first but snaps very easily, and fast, into enjoying it. Because it is the best she has ever felt. Leaving you as a n insecure prey for the rest of the story.

Igor

It is a fantasy. There are people who have problems with others having certain fantasies, but there is nothing that you can do about it apart from warning people about the game's content before they play the game. Certain things are illegal in games, but AFAIK fantasizing about rape is not. It is a game for adults. Adults are supposed to be responsible for what they confront themselves with. A warning should suffice.

Kideo_Hojima

I’ve tossed in my opinion with this scene b4 but having learned about how story ties together after all I’ve become understanding of the scene. However, due to my personal trauma, it’s gonna be a hard pass however possible for me. I’ve put in a suggestion for “skip scene” button b4 but as the project has been developed, I think the pragmatic solution for me is gonna be just removing my headset and letting the scene play by itself. As for content, I believe considering how you wrote FD2, the story is already really rapey all the way through, so there’s no point trying to fix little things. Maybe if you really cares about this subject, you can try experimenting other scenarios that’s more consensual and ‘mutual’ maybe? I notice that how you write these scenarios, the player is basically forced to do things, always, and their pleasure is rarely in the focus. Switching it up a bit might be of values for more people.

Kideo_Hojima

Again, it’s my thing that forces me into an extreme side of NO. While I fantasize about rape on self and being dommed, the concept of rape and mindbreaking on loved-ones sickens me physically. There are people who love these kind of things and watering it down would make them enjoy it less. And then there’s me who literally throws up from exposing to these kind of content porn or not. You can’t please everyone I guess.

Kideo_Hojima

I see your point on the hypocrisy of being okay with the guy get raped but not the girl. But from my point of view, as a person with a trauma, I have fantasies about getting raped/ degraded/ even gangbanged by women. However, any content that involves loved one being forced to sex either rape, mindbreaking, mind control, NTR , any of those will make me physically vomit. So guy gets raped, and GF gets raped are very different for me. I love former, latter will make me puke, with good reasons.

1md1

I thin think it's normal))) and it's just a game, adult game

BiddyBoy

I feel for you on your personal preferences and discomfort. I don't like using personal reasons to make a point because it is one opinion of a million that could disagree, but I have experience trauma that has affected my perspective as well. That being said, the forced cuck kink is what is being portrayed here. And maybe some of us want to be in the perspective of the girl being taken in this story as some of us have fluid fantasies. My point here is the creator has asked for our opinions so I am in no way saying your opinion is wrong, I think you have a point for those who share your kink comfort level with certain content. But, and this is more directed at Citor3, make the fantasies you want to make. I fell in love with your work for being able to show impossible extremes in such interesting and original ways. you have fueled some new fantasies for me. So, if you feel you are going too far for you, then feel free to pull back. But, I'm not here for you to cater to my fantasy level, I want to see where you can take us, where you can take yourself. I'll decide on my own if something you make is too far for me and I'll focus on the stuff that I like. Don't hold yourself back. Push yourself as far as you want and I can't wait to see what happens :3.

BiddyBoy

I'd love to help with this. In fact, while it can be a warning block that we have to consciously click before entering for safety warning reasons; It can also be a great introduction element for the player with Voice hypnosis play. A moment right after you select to play the story where we are stuck in a void, maybe looking at a giant pair of lips or just glowing dominating eyes as they warn us of what lies within. Warn us of BDSM, Domination, Humiliation, even giving up our free will to consent. All tied into a mesmerizing and hypnotic voice that trances us into the world. I would be unbelievably down for that. Let me know if you would be open for that as I will happily take the time to write something out for a opening warning/consent for and/or with a Voice hypnosis warning.

BiddyBoy

I think you actually have introduced an interesting element here that I think would be a great element. There are certain things you just don't want to see, totally understandable. I think something that would be great here is something that was used in the game (I can't remember the name at the moment) Mistress or Succubus trainer. In this game there is a consent section where you can choose to include or not include certain kinks/activities tailoring the game to your kink comfortability. While I think this could get in the way of the story telling here and could potentially break the story immersion, it could definitely be an option. Or, ya a hotkey that would allow the individual to skip a scene instead so the moment they feel like it's not right for them they can move on.

Citor3

GREAT Feedback!!! I really appreciate it! I will create the warning when entering the game and at any scene you can hop to next scene by pressing both triggers for 5 seconds.

Igor

Being able to easily skip a scene if it is not up your alley is a great idea. I mean, I don't have problems with the scene that this topic is about, but I know of about at least one scene that you will have in the game of which I think: "I might as well skip that because it really turns me off."

Kideo_Hojima

Honestly, I didn't expect you to add anything at this point of development at all. This speaks volume for how much you listen to the community. Big cheers.