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The Struggle is Real! Does this 40k in 40m make the cut? (Patreon)

Published:
2020-11-28 05:25:50
Imported:
2026-06

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Growing pains are real.  2020 is real. The struggle is real!  We want your honest opinion, Patrons!

This battle report is the first one shot in our new studio and there was challenges.  We tried some new things and new gear that didn't pan out for us.  Also, due to restrictions and rescheduling we had to do this while missing some crew members.  We may have a good battle here but we want you, our Patrons, to decide whether or not we should upload this to YouTube.

There is a long story here but the short is that we aren't quite sure if this one makes the cut.

What is the long story?  Well, for starters this is Paul's first 40k in 40m and being on camera for a full 9th edition game.  

Then we have the fact that this is actually the second shoot for this battle.  The first night we had set up Paul against a different opponent.  Well, the army showed up, but the player was unfortunately ill.  Stephen stepped in admirably to try and play that army but with delays of getting started we could only shoot half a game before having to shut down the shoot.  Not one to give up we tried again with Paul against Tycho in the battle we managed to edit.  

We have very high standards for ourselves and we really appreciate the duel between Paul and Tycho.  However, we need your honest opinion, Patrons.  Did you enjoy watching this?  Does this say 40k in 40m?  Does it represent Play On?  Inquiring minds want to know.

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The struggle is real! 40k in 40m S2 Episode 7

Okay! Well, it has been a long time since we posted a video and there are so many reasons why. Here is a hope this makes the cut. Is it good enough? We shall see!

Comments

Jared Miller

Hey, its a pleasure to be able to support other canadian creators. If I hadn't read the patreon post outlining the problems, I don't think I'd have noticed. I don't think this is my favorite 40m , but I think its still a fun watch and could find a home on the main channel.

Joseph Cole

There's a lot to like here--the models look solid as always, and the terrain is as cool (or hot?) as we've come to expect. The parts I found a little jarring were important rolls or information being cut out of the shots--in particular anything coming in from the south of the map was barely visible. Most rolls were in the camera, but some of them were either out of the shot or obscured by a hand. Coupled with a ton of rolls not being announced, it felt like we were often watching dice thrown with no context. I think the biggest issue was it felt a little rough around the edges, and light on player communication sometimes which you guys are typically awesome at including. Not awful by any stretch, but it felt more like something out of early season 1 (still better than the vast majority of batreps out there!). You guys do such an amazing job, I have no doubt you'll be better than ever soon! Thank you!!

Christian Marks

The audio issues were noticeable and not quite at the quality I normally expect with Play On batreps, but I don't think it detracted from the video overall. I love seeing how much this series is improving, and this was definitely my favorite battle report yet! And Tycho letting Paul go back in turn 4 to finish those moves is exactly the sportmanship I love seeing in these videos, always great to see!

Andy

It was a great quality video, though the audio issues we apparent (mainly because they were pointed out). You might want to consider using subtitles on the players through YouTube's closed captioning system (or just edit them in). I think it would help way if you can spare the man hours. Either way, the battle report was still a cut above anything else I've seen so far :)

Alex Goodman

Everything but the audio was up to its usual standard but man was that audio really obvious. I reckon it might be salvaged with a redub or subtitles. Better luck next time lads.

Michael Nunes

Hi folks. Overall, I think it went well. It lacked the usual polish, but I understand moving pains. A quick disclaimer about the game and it should be fine for YouTube.

phil

I agree with everything already mentioned above. It feels like audio has been a reel issue in the new space. Even when the mics are picking up sound, it’s pretty bouncy in that room. Someone above commented that it was rough around the edges and I totally agree. I would recommend looking at where your cameras are set up as well. In the one shots of Tycho and Paul sometimes they were barely in frame... maybe they need some marks on the ground. I was also curious about the overhead camera. I know this is nitpicky (you asked!); i would love to see the overhead shot be square with the table, particularly since you’ve used that black gaffing tape to mark off the dice rolling area / out of action units.... seeing this strong black lines on an angle right next to the beautiful score chyron added to the roughness. All that said, I always look forward to Play On batreps. You all are pushing them forward in a significant way. Some kinks to work out in the new space, but you’ll solve them in no time.

Michael Pettit

Hey guys- Overall a really great job. I can only imagine all the pain and hassle that goes into moving so truly well done. I do feel like it was a little less polished but only in so far as it felt like one of the first videos you guys did. Frankly if this was the very best that you could do I would still feel totally satisfied supporting you guys so well done. The audio was pretty noticeable but it’s all good. The music did seem a little less dramatic and more mellow which was different and some of the sfx lasted a little long for my taste like for the beam weapons but really those are really nit picky. I fully enjoyed it and I think I speak for us all that we are super excited for the new studio and everything you guys will be doing in the future. Play on!

The Tape Keeper

I think its the kind of thing that can be fun for us patreon supporters to enjoy and see, but I wouldn't necessarily put it out to the wider audience - someone new might see it as their first interaction and be turned off. I've done a lot of youtube in my days, and growing pains hurt like hell. And nothing hurts more than going back and seeing your old content!

Auto303615

My thoughts:. That episode is lower than the bar you have set for your 40K/40 min releases, but not by a big enough margin. I was expecting worse based on what Tak and Nick said in the last video. So post it with the same intro and editor notes. Your fans will understand and your brand is safe.

Gregorus

Its still a good episode, the main things that attracted me to play on batreps were the length, editing, production value, and you guys' personalities. This still absolutely comes through in this episode. The audio and camera angle issues do impact the viewing experience but its still way above the 2hr+, shaky-cam, jump-cut laden, peaky-audio batreps that seem to be the youtube standard. I think if you uploaded it to youtube, the fans would watch and appreciate it, especially with the disclaimer, but I can understand you guys not wanting to. I guess it would be better for the channel and for new viewers if the quality is shown to be constantly increasing.

gundam

good bat rep, but the audio wasnt up to your standards. I think going to YT would be iffy since new people might get turned off by the audio quality. That's the advantage Table Top Titans has that their bat reps arent as good as yours, but they have $30,000+ in YouTube recording equipment since one of the guys works at Google. It sounds like you are trying to use a boom omni mic, but in order to make one like that work, you need a REALLY good one, something like an AKG 414 because an Audio Technica is not going to cut it. I would honestly go back to lapel mics since they are tried and trued but I understand it adds extra processing. Also I would take a look at adding some better processing with soft knee limiter and compressor so there aren't such high peaks or compressed sound bits. I.e, when Tyco gets excited and talks louder the reduced bit rate due to no having head room is more apparent. Also a brickwall limiter might help you to have a more consistent sound through out the session. So the transistions for voice over to speech is smoother. For example the transition at 10:30 was pretty big difference in sound. Lastly, the angles of 1/4 table, 2/3 person and 1/2 a wall arent too engaging (Example at 7:34) Try playing with two guys on the same side of the table as Table top titans do. It makes it really easy to display a good chunk of the table while also showing both players.

Sean Cackoski

I'm a little late to the conversation and I think that everything has already been said. The camera angles were not quite as awesome as they usually are, and the sound was a bit iffy, though to echo the previous comment you could probably fix some of the problems with a little more processing in post. Regardless of the issues, I still enjoyed the video and still watched to the end. I much prefer seeing a 40k in 40 minutes video than other batreps on youtube that, even with the quality issues you had in this video, do not come anywhere near the quality of the work that you're doing in content and in production. One thing that wasn't mentioned, I felt like the music wasn't quite as in sync with the editing in this video as in others? Perhaps it was because I was paying more attention to the sound, but I feel like you usually do an excellent job matching different songs with different phases/turns of the battle. Anyway, don't let the issues discourage you, you're doing great work and it will only get better!

Nick gallagher

I loved it. Beautiful paint job on both armies, I would say you did a great job and is Play On Tabletop material. Totally put it on youtube. You guys to my opinion make the best battle reports, make the game even more fun and exciting. I love listening to all the battle reports when I'm working on my armies.

Kyle

Hi guys, The audio didn't seem to bad, and in my opinion you should post it. The best way for you guys to get and keep subscribers/patreons/fans, is to publish content. You guys were part of the reason I got into 40k, and I miss just seeing you guys play. I don't think we need over the top editing or effects. Most of us just want to see games and appreciate the concise and fun way you guys do it. Based on this and your last video I am excited to see what you guys do, but before you spread yourselves too thin I would focus on creating high quality 40k batreps with consistency, and then expand into other things like Kill Team, Crusade, Apoc. Without keeping up a consistent schedule it will be hard to grow and keep people engaged. That is just my two cents. Keep it up - looking forward to the future content!

George Anthony

Publish it with the disclaimers you've included. It's still miles above everything else on Youtube, even if it isn't up to what you usually put out, and the fans will be very grateful for it. Mostly commenting because I wanted to say what a well fought game that was. Thought it was going to be a massacre but Paul really turned it around. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the channel again : )

Aran Bates

I agree with all those above, this is definitely good enough to post. It's still way above almost everything else out there. Ok, the sound wasn't as totally crisp as some of your past ones and the commentary wasn't as free flowing as in some others. But getting content out there keeps you in people's minds and eyes. Plus as has been said, it's still really really good content. And I strongly second Kyle above about the fun and entertaining way you present your games. Could just put it out as an hors d'oeuvre for the coming season. Thanks again for the entertaining and my favourite 40k content on YouTube. Keep it up.

Micah

I give it my seal of approval for what its worth. Those Grey Knight were most certainly camera shy.