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its become way more clear now why people dont use thickness on dforce clothing. if we have a simple single trim going on then that works fine, but as soon as we make it a bit more complicated, dforce simply says "NO" and goes KABOOM

i have been trying all kinds of settings, but nothing works, its always the same result which ends up in an dforce explosion. 

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stoperArt

Oh yeah, this also happens if you have more extreme poses where the various parts of the garment touch and press on one another.

saphirenishi

yeah, if there is a lot of clipping going on then things will explode, but here im not even posing, just hitting the simulate button and the dress goes KABOOM