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Originating as a late-stage Rocky sequel, Creed has since evolved into its own multi-sequel franchise, with the new third entry bringing star Michael B. Jordan back into the ring as well as the director’s chair. That’s the same dual role Sylvester Stallone had for 1982’s Rocky III, which similarly finds its star prizefighter far from his scrappy beginnings, and needing to humble himself in order to find glory again. There’s a lot connecting these two films, but only one of them can boast the involvement of Hulk Hogan, so we’re joined by critic, friend of the show, and Rocky III advocate Matt Singer to discuss what issues Stallone and the franchise he defined were working through with this underestimated second sequel. Plus, our extended discussion of extended sequences continues in Feedback as we consider some less-loved examples of the long take.

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Outro music: “Eye of the Tiger” by Survivor

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Edward Savoy

From your local Philadelphian: While I can’t say for sure if it’s the “same” statue as in Rocky III, I can confirm that there is “a” Rocky statue in front of the Philly Art Museum, a few hundred feet from the immortal Rocky steps. If you want to anger a Philly sports fan, try putting a non Philly jersey on that statue. Local myth holds that curses will befall the non Philly team that has said jersey applied.

Edward Savoy

I would also be remiss if I didn’t mention that a) there is an annual “Rocky Run” that ends at, though not on, the Rocky steps (as part of registration, you can get a little red sweatband. No, I’m not kidding) and b) there is an unofficial Rocky 50K that purports to trace Rocky’s route during the training montage in the original (being a montage, it is apparently unburdened by adherence to continuous geography, so it’s apparently a lot of back and forth running).