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Emmi

They have really ruined the Steven and Taylor plot imo. In season 2 there was potential but they never got past that playful arguing stage and we've not seen them have anything real in common . They gave a dumb reason for him and Denise not to work out ( like those 2 were radiating chemistry ), and waited most the season to have them reunite when Steven has been perfectly fine without her until now . They don't even actually combat their issues he brings it up and boom they're back together instantly bf and gf again like .... They annoy me more than any other ship TBF cause at least with jelly stans I see where they're coming from to a degree I just see it differently but staylor ..... I don't get it AT ALL anymore

Emmi

This episode felt like a real missed opportunity from the writers. There was a real chance to recentre belly and focus on her feelings and Motivations we should've Purley focussed on her and Paris. We should've been in the dark about the the wedding fallout just like belly is with the episode ending with her phoning Conrad, Jeremiah or laurel back. It should've been a belly episode in the same way Conrad's and Jeremiah were respectably, showing her state of mind with flashbacks etc , like now I'm thinking about it I can't remember a SINGLE flashback of belly that wasn't about Conrad or Jeremiah even when Susannah was dying they spoke about them like yes it's the same for Jeremiah's flashbacks all being about belly I believe but belly is the main character so it's different IMO. it would've been really nice to see and could have helped with the mischaracterising fans have been doing and the frankly mysogynistic hate both she and the actress have been facing to see her struggles with knowing herself beyond this love triangle BS.

Emmi

I don't get at all how Jeremiah is considered the hot one ... Like I don't mean he's ugly and I wouldnt refer to Conrad as " the hot one " either . But they both just look like bog standard men id walk past in a town and not give a second look back

PAM

1:11:20 I'm half convinced Adam didn't even know Conrad and Belly ever dated.

Emmi

He factual doesn't right ? He refers to belly as Conrad's little sister at Susannah's memorial

PAM

I said this in another reaction, and someone replied that he was weirded out by them at a Thanksgiving while they were dating... and still didn’t notice. I just figured Adam has no idea what's going on in his sons' lives.

Emmi

In the books laurel and Adam ACTUALLY DID HOOK UP she dates Adam first in college and then " gives him " to Susannah

Katherine Strohm

In the books it is pointed out from the very beginning that the brothers were never really close, and then all this drama tore them apart even more. I think that last scene with Conrad and Jeremiah is really telling. A lot of Jere's insecurities come from feeling inferior to his brother and I really feel like a big reason he wanted to be with Belly is so he could "beat" Conrad at something, and someone would pick him over Conrad. Also I actually think their Dad's advice was good(shockingly), Jeremiah really just doesn't want Conrad around and has made that very clear to him. It isn't Conrad's job to fix everything and I think he has always felt that way as a result growing up being the eldest of all these kids.

Emmi

I agree but I don't think it's a conscious thing for Jeremiah that he is activley trying to do like some people make it out to be

Katherine Strohm

No I don't agree with that either I think it is subconscious and I think he really does love Belly but more as a friend.

TOLUWANIMI RUFAI

Jeremiah didn't crash out enough because I am sorry Conrad was dead wrong for what he did. Also I disagree with the whole Jeremiah's in competition with Conrad it seems like Conrads in competition with Jeremiah cuz like Jeremiah said you did all that and she still didn't pick you or call you like he did the most and she didn' even call him to tell him where she was. All she did was run around and get the cracker jack ring Jeremiah got her.

Liv

jeremiah was disrespectful as hell to everyone around him. slamming the door in the girl you supposedly love mothers face? insane. talking to belly the way he did? diabolical. rubbing it in conrads face he knows where belly is and once again treating it like a competition? gross!

JT

my thing is, jeremiah consciously got in a relationship with belly after knowing her and conrad broke up like a month before and she’d been in love with conrad pretty much her whole life. he was her first everything. anyone in their right minds would not have done that ESPECIALLY if it was their sibling like 😭

JT

thats why we say all three of them have issues cause no

Mette

Would LOVE to watch Anne With An E with you!

Ninna K

They made them toxic for no reason, so in the end, I didn't really care about them

Zee

You both would love Anne with an E!!!

Pooja

also why is there no urgency to find belly after the wedding?? no one knows where she is or seems to care for the entire episode lmao

sarah

i understand what rizzo meant though, first loves truly change and impact how someone views love and could potentially think that they still somehow love them, just because we shared our first intimate moments with them such as a first kiss. We hold a special place in our hearts for them BUT we don’t necessarily love them more than our s/o, idk how to explain them LMAO

JT

the scene between conrad and his dad was very special. the dad actually gave him good advice in basically saying he isn’t the person that should be helping jeremiah, the same way that he (the dad) wasn’t the one who should have been comforting conrad when their mother was dying. sometimes you hurt a person and you aren’t the one that they need to feel better. his dad cared about him and he knew that conrad didnt want him around, and knew that he had ppl around him that would help

Pooja

y’all are better than me because i couldn’t stop rolling my eyes at jeremiah - saying “he doesn’t have anyone” is kind of wild because he spends the whole episode being awful to all the people who are being there for him. which is fair for him to be upset! but you’ve criticized conrad for the exact same thing at a younger age

joonprint

I personally never really liked Jeremiah because he was always too immature and unserious for me. If he were just a side character, her brother-in-law ig, I would have liked him a lot more. Like if he were comedic relief. But trying to make him a "viable" match when he can't get over the one-sided competition he has with his older brother (knowing that belly has always loved conrad), isn't financially responsible, and has to get his way or else he turns bitter (because him giving Belly ultimatums on the spot knowing she's going to give into him is not right), has made me dislike him. None of this is to say that any of them are perfect, all of them have flaws. But we see Conrad show some growth (therapy, finally saying things he wants to say instead of being a martyr) in a way that Jeremiah is still stuck in his younger ways and hasn't healed properly yet from his mom dying. Him and Belly were co-dependent. He wasn't crying because he needs her romantically, he was crying because she's his friend that helped him get through things, but now he has to face himself and grow on his own. I lowkey just want Belly to be by herself lmao, like...

pinkpatreon

WE see a lot about Conrad but no one else does. Sure he goes to therapy but again, doesn’t communicate with anyone. And I think there’s a bit of projection in your part as to WHY you think Jeremiah is doing what he’s doing. It’s like you don’t want to acknowledge him in good faith that he could possibly just be someone who is imperfect but loves Belly and just lost the love of his life. That’s fine. But this Rorschach test of a show seems to have you reading the best intentions from Conrad’s actions but the worst from Jeremiah’s and I’m saying that is objectively biased! Again, fine! You don’t like Jeremiah! Totally valid! His character IS annoying. And his actor is WORSE. But these discussions have made watching the show annoying because I’m made to feel crazy because your bias has determined NO OTHER OPTION is possible and that’s just genuinely annoying and not fun. I wish Benji and I could enjoy the character we picked without being accused of bias by people who clearly have their own bias. Let’s just all have fun watching this and hating/loving who we hate/love!

pinkpatreon

I think he was being pretty damn chill the day towards the people who wouldn’t leave him alone after his wedding was called of 🤷🏽‍♂️

Bryanna Johnson

Please watch my life with the walter boys😭😭!!!!

Watch with Marcella

The Conrad/Jere debate reminds me of another great series. I would love to see which sides you fall on - Team Dean, Team Jess or Team Logan. Yep. Gilmore Girls. It is a long commitment, but a good Fall-time watch with a blanket and some cider. ❤️

Jose Nate

I have mixed feelings about this episode, so I was curious to see your reaction. (I liked the dad giving some affection to Jeremiah at the end)

Masha X.

I was a little bit confused why everybody in this episode were like "Jere was left at the altar". First off all, disclaimer - I am team noone 😄 so this is just how I perceived last episode - Jere went awol thinking, Belly was freaking out, both wanted still to get married though; Conrad went to find Jere, Jere punched him and said he is dead to him and to go away and in that moment I saw it as "I am getting married, she will be my wife and I don't want you anywhere near us ever" and Conrad was kinda okay that's fair and was planning to go away (in his silent broody way 😄) Then Jer goes to the wedding and "all of the sudden" wants to hear from Belly something he knows she cannot give. I don't want to be mean but he wanted to hear from her that she has zero feelings for his brother when come on, all of you know each other like forever of course she will probably always somehow love you both and in my opinion she answered very well that she will always love Con a little bit but she chose him, Jere. Like I don't think if she lied that it would help, I think he would never believe her. I even think that if she truly was indifferent to Conrad now and said that, Jere would still not believe her. The problem of this whole situation is he will always and forever have doubts, well, maybe after years of therapy he could manage them 😄, but it is mainly in his head and yes if she felt nothing for Conrad it would be better, but I think it would always be an issue. Anyway, she said this but she wanted still to marry him and he was the one to call of the wedding in the end. Yes, we had the voiceover that she thought if she pressed he would marry her anyway, but I think in that moment she did a right thing with leaving it to him. She was honest and gave him what she had and could. So technically he called of the wedding and she just run afterwards. It's just seems that to everybody in this episode it was presented that SHE changed her mind and left him, when in reality technically it was Jere who stopped the wedding 👀 Also (please don't hate me 😄), I must defend a little bit Conrad with the whole "why did you blow up everything night before wedding". In my opinion the whole time he was really trying to be supportive of them in the best capacity someone who is in love with "the bride" and thinks it is stupid idea for them to get married that fast, could 😄 like he agreed to be co best man, he helped with laurel, was trying to help kinda with wedding stuff.... And from his perspective he is trying to step back because Jere is better, that's what he tells himself all the time right? "I will suffer because you are better wihout me" (the therapist should work with him more😄). And then he hears that Jere cheated on her and in the environment where guys are all like haha about it. Woukd it be better to find out more information and without macho guy talk in the club? Yes. But it is (in my opinion) understandable that it was a shock for him, so he went on the beach to think it over. It was not like he went straight to her and had plan to ruin everything. He was on the beach thinking and she showed up and he couldn't help himself to say something. It would be interesting to know how it would play out without her showing, he would probably confront Jere and maybe it would play out a little differently. I just wanted to point out, that he blew everything up night before, because that's when he got a new information that triggered it. If he did not get the info, he wouldn't say anything most likely. All in all, I think that it was always going to end this way and those three just created this time bomb in that motel in s02. In my opinion those two lasted for those 4 years just beacuse Conrad went away and ignored everybody. They just freezed problem they all had and those two lived in the happy bubble. But Conrad has "hero complex" (I would call it martyr), Jere has a Conrad complex and Belly has issue that she is too codependent with them both. If I remember correctly the whole season 2 her whole world was around Conrad and this whole season was around Jere, she always goes with the flow of them two and her mom was right that she needs to find out who the hell she is. I am very happy that it all blew up (so thanks broody Conrad 😄) and I hope for the sake of these fictional characters they will go separate ways for few years at least! P.S. probably unpopular opinion, but I don't love Susannah. I think she kinda supported the not so healthy dynamic those three had. But it is more of a feeling, I just watched this show through your reactions 😄 so maybe I remember things wrong.

Gustavo

the thing is, Jeremiah actually tried to stay away but Belly kept pushing. He was in love with her, so he trusted that she was telling the truth and end up giving in.

Roz

I would looooveee to watch yall react to Anne with an e! It's so cozy but also so emotional and I think it would make for really interesting discussions!!

Emmi

Also through watching the patron episode I've really become team both men suck .... Like I do want belly to end up with Conrad cause she clearly will only ever love him and I do eat up their edits but like if she was my friend I'd be like TF . I really wish Conrad's personality / coping mechanisms changed a lot more with the therapy and time to make them reuniting more satisfying. But I also think seeing how insane many bonrad fans are to others on the internet and the flat out refusal to EVER see Conrad as wrong really turned me against siding with them as a ship full on . Like I'm not saying some Jeremiah fans don't also do this ( especially the ones saying Lacey SAed Jeremiah and calling her chubby ) but I feel like the Conrad echo chamber is INSANE. Which is why ( beyond the obvious basic human decency ) I find it so bizarre how people bash the boys for having a different opinion to the mass audience as like do you really just want to watch echo chamber content

Jose Nate

Y'all need to watch My Life With The Walter Boys after this one, the brother relationship is way better shown there. They're like an actual family there

JT

that’s true but he also could have said no, and that they should just stay best friends until they have both healed some from susannah’s death and she was over conrad. that would’ve been the healthy response

Sam

I agree their story was sloppy for no reason and the Denise drama was so unnecessary. But I think there is a little bit of a juxtaposition between their relationship and Jelly. They both got together at the end of season 2. But we see Jelly have a long lasting steady relationship (for the most part) and Steven and Taylor instead being on and off and living their lives for themselves and with other people. They are messy too, but in the end they have a better shot at making it than Jelly. Steven is not hung up on jealousy (unlike Jeremiah) and Taylor can take care of herself (unlike Belly).

JT

i think they were both deeply hurt and latched on to each other

Emmi

But they have 0 in common that we've seen like at all. There's no foundation to their relationship and I dont think they have more of a chance when they barley discuss their issues in a meaningful way

Jose Nate

You got some handsome men in town then.😂 jk, my guess is they just wanted to cast some hollywood standard cute boys with nice eyes and this is what they ended up with

Emmi

Nice eyes ... Gavin's TERRIFY me 🧿🧿. But no on a real I genuinely like the level of atteacivness both Gavin(🤢) and Chris have as it's like realistically attractive people not Hollywood heart throbs

Sam

What do Bonrad or Jelly have in common? Steven and Taylor's foundation was laid out in season 2, she's Bellys oldest friend and so has known Steven most of her life.

Emmi

Bonrad have a shared like of reading, the medical field and sports . Jelly also are both active but also a need for reassurance and their optimism . Staylor's foundation was barley laid not beyond playful arguing which isn't a stable basis

Sam

As Team Conrad I definitely see his flaws. He lies about and hides his feelings and that would drive me crazy, I could not cope with doubt about how someone feels about me. He should have went back to CA until the wedding and then brought Agnes as a plus one and prep with his therapist how to get through the weekend. I think the wedding would have still been called off. He really needed to read the room and realize that after he throws an atom bomb on his brothers wedding that this time, people actually need their space, and this is finally an appropriate time to do the Conrad thing and put some distance between himself and the mess he is a part of. But at the end of the day I'd still choose Conrad over Jeremiah. Jeremiah lies and hides about his actions. And for me personally that is simply worse and I don't think I could ever truly trust him. But he very clearly could never truly trust Belly and that's why they wouldn't have worked.

Erandi Brito

After TSITP/SQ can you guys react to Wednesday S2 pt:2 (eps:5-8?

Natasha

Conrad is rightly judged for being rude or avoidant when he struggling emotionally so Jeremiah doesn’t get a free pass for doing the same thing. Everyone who tried to help or support him he was nasty to. If Conrad’s mom dying wasn’t an excuse then Jeremiah calling off his own wedding isn’t an excuse for his behavior either. I’ll never blame Conrad for that wedding falling apart bc at the end of the day if the rlsp was strong & they truly wanted to get married it would’ve happened. Belly almost kissed Conrad the week before. She admitted to Taylor that she only ever pictured marrying Conrad hours before he made his confession. She made a whole edit in her mind of Conrad. And Jeremiah knew how Conrad felt the entire time yet he was actively trying to make Conrad spend more time around them knowing it made him uncomfortable. This is the same Jere who refused to be near them when Conrad & belly were a couple. I’m glad belly left. I glad Conrad did as well. Adam needs to be a parent & stoo placing that responsibility on Conrad. And Jere needs to find himself outside his need to be in a one sided competition with his brother. He needs therapy & to actually grieve his mom instead of latch on to a rlsp.

Beth

😬 yikes on bikes

Beth

I would rather Gilmore Girls than the other show I see suggested all over the comments.(Life with the Walter boys. 😒) At least GG would be a fun cozy nostalgic visit. Lol -Even if all the characters are annoying, there's still a charm to it that almost everyone can appreciate. Plus it'd be fun listening to Rizzo get annoyed by Lorali and Rory. 😆

Liv

Hmmmm I partially disagree with this (not the second half hahah completely agree there but the part about jeremiah). he can love belly, I don’t think a lot of people disagree with this, and also see it as a competition. Conrad would literally never rub it in jeremiah’s face that he knows where belly is. that was straight up pettiness and there were quite a lot of undertones that he saw their relationship partially as competition with his brother. I don’t completely blame him, he’s been compared to his brother since a baby by his father. but denying that he wants to “win” belly? (and this is not against ur opinion at all im just giving my take u guys are my favs!!). Also the way jeremiah acted this episode, despite what he was going through, was gross imo. If conrads gonna be held accountable for being a little shitty while his mother was dying, jeremiah should be held accountable in this instance as well. I’m sad you’re getting annoyed by this and people are making yall feel this way bc that genuinely sucks! This should be friendly debates and should not be so bad that it affects yalls viewing experience. I’m seriously so sorry that’s happening to u! At the end of the day I have different opinions but i love providing my input and hearing yours! All love here!!!

Liv

regardless of what jeremiah is going through, the way he treated belly’s mother (how he spoke to her and literally slamming a door in her face) was incredibly out of line. this is the woman you supposedly loves mother. the blatant disrespect was crazy. then belly calls him and tells him about how she needs to grow and that they were codependent and he says “don’t fucking call me again.” Again, I know he’s hurt. But talking to two woman the way he did this episode and on top of all that the woman he loves was a lot (to me). You can critique conrad all you want, that’s fine, and it’s valid. But the way he acted when he was 17/18 when his mom was dying is getting a lot more hate than the way jeremiah acted at 22 (this is not directed at yall just in general).

Liv

omg I would love to see you guys react to Anne with an e!

joonprint

Honestly I don't think the wedding would have been called off without Conrad confessing to Belly lol. It took Belly telling Jeremiah that Conrad confessed for HIM to call off the wedding. Belly was willing to still go with it. Jeremiah too, but it took Jeremiah looking at Belly's face when talking about Conrad being the leaver for him to say nevermind.

joonprint

I think my comment was taken in the wrong way, it was just my personal opinion about Jeremiah. The "trying to make him a viable option part" was not towards you, but towards the show and Jenny Han. I respect your opinion, because as I said, none of these characters are perfect and there are many sides (Team Belly, Team Conrad, Team Jeremiah, Team Cam Cameron). Also I never accused you of bias (I don't think?), but then again I think anyone on team anyone has a bit of bias. I don't think that's inherently bad, it's when people get mean and rude towards other viewers, that's when there's a problem (which isn't you guys). I think my view on Jeremiah being an option would have lessened if the season wasn't focused 90% on if the two are getting MARRIED or not. Neither of them were ready for marriage and I think that's the lense I saw it through. If we saw Jeremiah and Belly actively growing throughout the season/show together, I think they would of been a great pair.

Liv

I’m wondering if they replied to the wrong comment bc I don’t think yours was that bad!

anawithaDi

Kind of how yall stated this show doesn’t make Jere and Conrad feel like brothers; I feel this show doesn’t make it feel like they have all known each other since childhood. It feels like they only got all close when she started dating Conrad when we know that’s not true. That’s also why I can’t get into Jeremiah because how can you date someone your brother has been with! I understand Belly can make decisions for her relationship, but as Jeremiah going forward with his brothers ex is crazy, and I think it’s because I am so close to family I could never see myself with someone a friend or family member showed any type of interest in. But here’s just so many thought and options of why I can’t be team Jeremiah but I can’t type it all lol

Beth

I guess I'm in the unpopular opinion boat, but I don’t ’t think Belly and Conrad should get together. Now or later. She shouldn't be with Jere either. Conrad kind of bulldozes other people, even if it's on purpose or not, he does. Jere loves Belly, but he’s always going to be second to Conrad. In his head and in her mind too. He needs to give up the ghost on Jelly. Belly needs to learn how to exist as someone other than Belly, the girl who turned pretty. I like that in Paris she's Isabelle. She's not "Belly" anymore, she's a new woman. Or at least the potential is there. She went to college where her bf and BF were also going. She couldn't become Isabelle there with all the anchors of Belly holding her down. I see why the romantic ending is Bonrad eventually, but if she were my actual friend I'd be like 'girl for the love of god stay away from these guys.'

Grace

I’m life with the Walter boys

Grace

We were lies is great show

Lara

Just saw Benjy at The Rangers karaoke event in the background of the stream...looking good as always!!!

María Victoria Acevedo Poppe

Parisian Pop-star about to rant here ❤️. The only thing I liked about this episode is seeing Paris beat Belly cause it really be like that. Although, the continuity errors were infuriating. Showing her run down so many streets, “around town”, but clearly not leave the neighborhood. I mean after all that running she took the subway at the same station she got off. And the train! She took the Villejuif train (the one I take everyday), only to show her on the Ivry train on the next scene and then hop off on the opposite end (La Courneuve). It’s like she headed southeast but then somehow further east and ended up North. Sorry, I hyper fixated on that, love you guys reaction. Specially cause I hate every character in this show and you make them more tolerable. Thank you 🥰 PS: Parisian people do walk faster than most people but the guy was probably on a bike (it’s the preferred transport method here).

Jackie Cruz

I think y’all missed the mark on Adam’s advice to Conrad Adam mentioned how he couldn’t be there for Conrad during his mothers death because of Conrad‘s disdain for him and there was nothing he could do but back off and that what Conrad need to do with Jere he simply can’t fix anything by being hovering over Jere he’s not giving up … And also it doesn’t look like Conrad was only there for belly by leaving, why would he stay if Jere deliberately said that he didn’t want him there at the house or see him

Hannon Floyd

What you guys were saying at the end. Im the black sheep of my family and my brother is the golden child only because he's the first born male in the family.. the only men that were in my families life were married in.. its almost like the the royal family REALLY fucked w/ my families head.. the son is always wanted more than the girl. 🙄 and it hurts tbh

Sam

I hear you but I really do think it would still happen. Belly had doubts and issues with the wedding that had nothing to do with Conrad. And she obviously still loves him, Jeremiah still would have been holding his secret about knowing about Christmas, and he still would have accidently gotten Conrad's letter. Conrad could have still convinced Laurel to show up for Belly. And Belly would have over-interpreted that as him still loving her (though she'd be right). I think Conrad being an equal participant in this messy love triangle just makes it easier for Belly and Jeremiah to scapegoat him as the full problem. I hope we end with all three of them realizing they are all to blame.

sarah

oh my gosh yall should do my life with the walter boys while tsitp is still fresh on yalls mind so yall can see the ACCURACY in both shows but the changes changing drastically how each show flows

Hannon Floyd

At 0:55 Benji was singing his version of Shark in the water by VV Brown. I THINK that's what he's singing of and here's some lyrics that match what he was singing "Baby, there's a shark in the water (water) There's something underneath my bed Oh, please believe, I said Baby, there's a shark in the water (water) I caught them barking at the moon Better be soon" Its such a sweet song that makes you just 😩🫠 melt and I listen to it all the time. Now I REALLY wanna be best friends w/ you Benji 🥺 we have so much in common! Lol I sound like a stalker 😅 if that's the case I'll stop talking lmao x3 I'm Sorry lol

Hannon Floyd

51:26 : funny you say that Rizzo cus when a family member died, she was blind and hard of hearing, I lived next door to her! I would hear from here EVERY DAY she hadnt called in 3 days, I was so fcking worried. I was able to get her door open... I found her on the bottom of her stairs... very graphic and fucked cus she didn't deserve to go out like that. For a few months I was severely depressed and every time I tried to sleep, I just saw her laying there.. same with blinking.. I was working at a dispo at that point, I was communicating and telling them what's happening. They didn't give two fucks. I went in one day and left 4 hours into the shift because I kept crying. It was only a week. Then after I reported a sexual harassment (completely different story) literally the next day I was fired... the guy who harassed me still worked there. I found out that they fired me on false accusations and just team leaders lying. Forgetting, that theres cameras. The day I left 4 hours into the shift they told HR I was a no call no show. And I said thats not true, I was there I just left. Anddd the other times they said I was a no call no show. I called and told them I wasn't okay and needed a day off, I also texted that to the GM and other team members in a app we all use to message the GM. I told HR that I either need to be re hired AND paid for the days that I missed because of negligence I also need a raise. OR I will sue for firing me under false statements and bullying from. I also knew secrets of somethings that would ruin the company and I said so. I got all the back from missing and I went back to work. But low key wish I sued them. 🤣 I wouldve had a home and pay for it every month with no problem lol ugh. But they talked about me and made fun of the fact I found my family member in a pool of her blood. I tried communicating why I was the way I was. But it was used against me a lot while I was working there lol it was fucked. They made fun of my miscarriage and said the music I played was for heroine addicts. Ugh. So much trauma for no reason.. :( I'm sorry for trauma dumping lmao I payed 10 dollars to do so I guess 🤣🤣😅😅 love you guys! Im sorry to anyone who read this and felt like they wasted their life 😅😅

pinkpatreon

I hope you were given the time to process and I am SO SORRY you had to go through all that. You deserve peace Hannon!!!

pinkpatreon

that's fair. I think we just don't trust Adam so we missed his good intentions. Though, to be fair, that's what we mean when we say this show isn't "amazingly" written - because it's hard to track characters. Obviously it's wholesome to see their conversation that way - but realistically, Adam has been kind of a manipulative slimeball - so Benji and I are really not too far off from distrusting him. Now we're finding out he meant well and that that was a "good" conversation but it feels like a scene that comes out of left field to give us (the audience) closure about Conrad's decisions but didn't feel natural to us (the pink popcast). I will be interested in eventually rewatching this series when we're far removed from all the drama lol. Thank you so much for the comment.

pinkpatreon

Hahah you’re fine 😂 I just know the song from the promo they used for Degrassi on Nickelodeon lmaoo

natalie

Couldn't agree more about wishing they showed them actually having a brotherly relationship. As far as we see they never did.

blake fowler

guys you need to watch halloween II (1981) and Halloween h2o (1998) back to back

Pepper

Most unrealistic part of the entire thing is NOBODY HAVING HER LOCATION 😭😭😭 and how tf she get out the venue, pack up, and make it to the airport with NO ONE knowing — someone would’ve had to run into her at some point like ????

pinkpatreon

OMG THAT's SO TRUE! Every woman I know shares their location with their mom or BFFs!!

pinkpatreon

filming Halloween II (1981) tomorrow to release on Halloween!!!!!

Maria Monterroso

I stopped watching after episode 3 season 31 watching this episode with you guys made it more bearable. You guys pay attention.

Pooja

that’s fine but then i think it’s unfair to say “jeremiah has no one” he probably felt like he had no one in that moment but he has consistently always had support - even steven was only upset that jeremiah cheated/ slept with someone else right after breaking up with belly and lying for like… 2 seconds

flechesbleues

A wonderful contrast to this show full of teen drama would be the British series Last Tango in Halifax - it's about a couple that reunites later in life (in their 70s), and their adult children (in their 40s) and grandchildren (teens-early-20s, not really the focus). The interpersonal relationships are all really well written (and performed) and interesting. There's also a queer storyline, if that makes it any more enticing! Honestly, almost anything by that writer/director has amazing characterization and dialogue. Happy Valley is the other big (huge!) one by her (starring one of the same main actors), that one has added police drama. Or Gentleman Jack (period drama based on real people/secret diaries - the main character having been described as "the first modern lesbian", apparently). All three of those series are set in the north of England (Yorkshire), so might be a challenge for your accent chops! Would be fun.

kelly earnest

also everyone in the fandom knew it was gogin to be Conrad endgame no matter what cu the aauther fo the book is writing the show and the book ends with Conrad and belly together so I'm like everyone that read the book in the fandom knew this from the frost episode to now I ditn believe the interviews where Jenny was teaseign the ending mgoth be different which it was a bit but not the endgame I didtn believe she would change the endgame its to a surprise to me as og book lover that she will end upw oth Conrad and also ntoa spolier either cuz the book has been out for decades

kelly earnest

if you ddint read sorry but there's stories and leaks everywhere since season one about the book ending

kelly earnest

how is that not super attrative I'm not used to this kind of attrrive poeple where I'm from but I'm also from a small town in the basiclly middle of no where and no is this attratvie there but blue eyes are so pretty to be honest love his eyes and I don't hate his chracter but dotn love him with belly though but I fins both the actors to attractive to look normal for me normal is avgene less pretty men and super country looking guys basically

kelly earnest

and someone says Lola isn't that pretty but she so pretty to me and Taylor to they dont look normal either to me

kelly earnest

I mean belly and Taylor are so pretty and also dont look normal even Steven isn't normal looking where I'm from like none of the characters are normal looking for me

Emmi

Lola is breath taking

moon lover

yall need to watch My Mad Fat Diary its a british drama i think you guys would like it

Yadira Cano Camacho

Honestly even if they didn’t further develop the brotherly relationship in real time - they needed to show us more of them as kids so we could understand their stilted relationship now. Even like an implication that they always fought over Steven and Belly’s attention(as best friends while kids or just for time with their mom and dad) to help explain the future dynamic. They didn’t have to be close but they had to SHOW us whyyyyy. 😭