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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapters 7 & 8! (Patreon)

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Hi guys! It's that time of the month again! These two are shortish, but awesome chapters! It may (controversially) be my favourite Dumbledore scene yet!

I also discuss the recent casting of the Harry Potter series! Several of you have been asking me to give my opinions on them, and I wanted to avoid posting them in a separate video, for reasons I explain here.I know there are a lot of 'passionate' opinions when it comes to come of the casting choices, but I hope you will understand it really isn't something I am concerned about. I would rather avoid the subject in the comments, but if you do, PLEASE be respectful to each other (I really don't want to have to mediate).

We also talk about The Death of Stalin, Cowboy Bebop and egg flavoured crisps....

ENJOY~~~

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Nessy-Bobs

I know what you mean about the toxicity. When my son came out as being Trans when he was a teenager we "lost" a few friends and relatives along the way. Even his uncle my eldest brother disowned us. When our mum died a couple of years ago him and our other brother paid for her to have one of those "cheap and cheerful" cremation advertised on the TV instead of the one she'd been paying into a club for. When JKR showed her true colours, my son turned his back on anything to do with Harry potter. He's almost fooked his liver up with the amount of overdoses he's taken over the years. It's heartbreaking to watch and I feel so impotent as a mum.

Josh Z

Hey Veggie I agree with you about the casting of the tv show. It doesn't matter. That being said I believe I read that Nick Frost was also in one of these kids only acting credit prior to landing these roles. I just can't remember who of the three it was or what they were in. I'll try to find that information.

Milana

The silver W on robes is for Wizengamot

Madikuma95

I think the reason Arthur is wearing muggle clothes is because while he usually just apparates into the Ministry, today he's walking through muggle London with Harry to get to the visitors' entrance, not that he usually wears muggle clothing to work. When Moaning Myrtle gets flushed down the toilet she goes through the pipes and ends up in the lake, so wizarding toilets seem to work like ours. Squibs are non-magical people born to a magical couple. So muggles wouldn't be able to have squib children, by definition.

S1lm4r1l

In 10 years it'll be the same as marriage and divorce. People thought they were the height of scandal 100 years ago. Now everyone just accepts it. Fact of life.

Cassandre Houzé

I checked all the HP PDFs and United Kingdom is never used even once. Not even UK. But Britain and Great Britain are mentioned 22 times total.

Ирина Устюгова

A powerful emotion had risen in Harry’s chest at the sight of Dumbledore, a fortified, hopeful feeling rather like that which phoenix song gave him❤️

Réka Kovács

It's funny, cause I absolutely started watching the video by skipping to you reacting to my comment, so I am "guilty" of that 🙈😂 I did watch the part before now, and I don't want to upset you Veggie, but I am personally not a fan of Percy 🙈 So I'll rather not say anything about that.. 😅 But I found your take about the statue very interesting, that it could be explained by an elf making it, never thought of that actually.

jolt45

On the use of "lift" and "pavement" in the US. Lift as a noun in the US typically refers to large industrial size elevator meant for moving goods at a warehouse, factory, or a museum etc... The US version of the book does say lift though. For the most part, the US version of the books is written 'in dialect' so since Harry speaks and thinks like an English teenager would, we get the words he would use and think. After all, lift is one of the most famous examples of a difference between US and UK English. Many American kids reading these books for the first time definitely encountered words or phrases we were not familiar with. I recall asking my parents what Hagrid meant when he said "'cuppa" to which I now know he was referring to a cup of tea. As for pavement, the word has a more general meaning here. "Pavement" refers to any material used to pave, (ie asphalt, concrete, paving stones, etc...). The individual types of paved surfaces (road, driveway, sidewalk, footpath, etc...) are referred to by their individual type. That doesn't mean we'd never use it in every day speech. A mother might call after her child "Only ride your bike on the pavement!" which would mean don't ride on the grass, stay on the driveway, sidewalk, and/or road.

Jacqueline Chaiton

The W is for Wizengamot, I believe, not Wizard. The eternal question: what are squibs. Squibs are non-magic children born to magic parents, so the opposite of muggleborns witches/wizards. So it's not possible for two muggles to have a squib, but it is possible for two squibs to have a magical child. The theory is that muggleborns have a squib somewhere in their family tree. I have to imagine squibs would go to muggle schools but would get some magical education from their parents, unless they are from a family like the Malfoys who care about blood purity and then I assume they'd be kicked out. You're finally getting introduced to book Umbridge. Imelda Staunton played her so well in the movie but the character was definitely toned down. Still awful, but you will really understand why she is almost more hated than Voldemort moving forward Complete sidetrack here but I just thought of it, if you have an iPhone and you open up Siri and say Lumos it will turn your flashlight on, then Nox turns it off. I have had so much fun with this over the last few days since I found out, haha. I love that Dumbledore gif, I use it all time time in various teams chats for work. He'd make a great lawyer in the book. Azkaban is a play off Alcatraz so it makes sense that it's not too far off the coast. Probably a but further than Alcatraz is from San Francisco, though. You'd think the "Laws can be changed" line would show some people there how unhinged Fudge has become but apparently not. The Malfoys thankfully have no claim over Dobby anymore since he was freed. So even if they do know where he is they can't do anything about it. With your example of using the Killing curse, they can easily find out whether or not they actually did cast it with the spell we saw in GOF where Crouch sees that the Dark Mark was cast from Harry's wand. You met Scrimgeour in the 6th movie. All I will say on that :) I have to say, hearing you talk through the trial reminded me again why so many of us compared the first Trump administration to this book. I think Dumbledore just knew Fudge would try to pull something which is why he showed up so early. There is always the possibility that someone told him, but I think he just understands Fudge. I highly doubt it was Percy, unfortunately, but it is a nice thought I really hope lawyers became a thing post-war. Maybe Hermione establishes some sort of program? In my personal canon she does. I'm unfortunately the perfect candidate for jury duty because I don't watch the news, also I didn't grow up in the city I live in now. Haven't been called for it yet in the years I've been a legal adult, thought. You're not allowed to do magic outside of Hogwarts until you're 17, whether you're from a wizarding family or muggle family. You can just get away with it easier in a wizarding household. The statue is in the main atrium I believe, so everyone would see it regardless of the entrance they came in. The way Alan Rickman acts that inspection scene in the movie is amazing. The line deliveries of "yes" and "obviously" get me every time! I think we can assume based on the interactions with Bane and Ronan in the first book that Centaurs are at least ambivalent towards humans. It's a trend for Harry to not have an appetite when he's nervous, such as before quidditch games, so I think the description of the toast had nothing to do with Molly, haha. I have to agree with you, Oswald Moseley is definitely much worse than Fudge. I only learned who he was a few years ago but especially as a Jewish person who's grandparents were Holocaust survivors, yeah he was a despicable person. I feel you with the need to clarify everything, I have to fight myself to not do that sometimes when it is something that is really obvious what I meant. Maybe its a neurodivergent thing? One of those ADHD/Autism commonalities. I also think Fudge is conveniently overlooking the fact that he was with his cousin who knows about magic. And Fudge definitely didn't give him a chance to say it. If you remember back in Chamber, the Ford Anglia had an undetectable extension charm on it. The ministry car in POA I believe did as well. I agree that Percy should have been a Slytherin, and I think he would have been if he wasn't a Weasley. Slytherins aren't inherently evil, in fact I believe the only house that did not produce a Death Eater was our Amazing house, Hufflepuff. It would have been interesting to see an alternate world where Percy was in Slytherin. I'm pretty sure it's the British and Irish league, as in combined. I don't think the leagues are separate, which is why it's housed at the ministry. I've talked about my opinion on the whole UK/Ireland issue in the past, but I'll say it again here. My opinion is that I find it really problematic (especially as someone of Irish heritage and who is actually an Irish citizen) but I think her logic is that the wizarding world is separate from the muggle world and since Ireland became a republic for very muggle reasons they felt no need to split the wizarding government. Either that or just laziness. He would have had to go back to the Dursleys if he was expelled. At least until he tuned 17. Even Harry seems to have forgotten about the Ginny situation, which is crazy. I think the only one who really hasn't forgotten was Ginny. It was about 32 minutes to get the tattoo done :) So basically what you were saying about the Ministry being under the muggle government, that is what the behind the scenes confirmed. At least for the movies. In this case it was specifically under the Ministry of Defense building. If there is any chapter that I think is worthy of just doing one chapter in the video, it would be chapter 23. Definitely a few "Look at the camera like I'm on The Office" moments this review, looking forward to seeing if you remember them moving forward!

itz_Cherise

I’ve always found it funny that the only people who witnessed Harry’s patronus are people who already knew about the Wizarding World. The trial is such a waste lol 😂

Dara Jeeling

The kids are perfect - I will still not watch because of SNAPE! I wanted a book accurate version and THIS is not it! I wish everyone who watches a good time but with this one casting I am out of the series!

Grace

People were saying the same thing 10 years ago regarding LGBTQ but unfortunately, while society has made great progress, things have shifted once again in recent years, especially in America and especially towards trans people. With the current administration, I don't know what the next 10 years are gonna look like.

Josh Z

And the over sympathetic version from the movie was book accurate? I have no idea if this actor is going to do an accurate take on Snape's personality but if he does exactly that it will prove that he did the best in auditions.

Josh Z

Progress is always generational. It doesn't happen quickly. History shows as much. I think that the best anyone can hope for is that each generation is a little better off than the one before.

Dara Jeeling

the whole movies were NOT book accurate which is why I hardly ever watch movie 5- 8 they are so bad! Draco is way to likeable in the movies, he is a little a...... in the books. Ron and Ginny got butchered in the movies - how was that book accurate? I love Alan Rickman and I love what he did - but he is NOT book Snape which is why I wanted t have a book accurate Snape. this has nothing to do with the "to likeable version" I LOVE book Snape - and film Snape was not book Snape. I wanted book Snape. I would have been okay with an Asian Snape that would have been a better match for the book description anyway. IF you read the books each and every character that is of another ethnicity is described as such - Lee Jordan, Angelina Johnson, Cho Chang, Kinglsey Shaklebolt... and Snape is never. Snape has a distinct descrition "white as marble" - "pale" "skin like sour milk" and so on. I do no like what this change does to the whle BG story of Snape. i gives it an even "darker" turn and NOT ONE of the other (all white teachers) intervenes for him. And NO not going into it, since it will contain spoilers. also... I think he is a hypocrite - trying to get the role (he clearly had not read the books) and then literally stabbing JK in the back. IF you dislike her that much, just do not try to get a role in anything she has written. We know she has some really controversial standpoints and I am NOT fine with what she says I still love the story and I just ignore everything that is not the story. He played a black George Boleyn (who is a real historic character and was also NOT black) (and got grilled for that) he is a good actor - but FOR ME he is not and will never be Snape (especially not book Snape who is described as "deadly white") and thus I do not care and will not watch! But again, I hope the kids have the best of time and can enjoy it without being thrown under a bus and everyone who watches it - I hope they have a good time, either. It's not for me!

Dara Jeeling

Also... Veggie - upon Squibs XD Essentially the reverse of Muggle-borns, Squibs were effectively Muggles forced to live in the wizarding world but unable to fully access it, although they were able to see things hidden from normal Muggles. A Squib, also known as a wizard-born, was a non-magical person who was born to at least one magical parent. Squibs were, in essence, "wizard-born Muggles". They were rare and were looked upon with a degree of disdain by some witches and wizards, particularly pure-bloods. Muggle-born witches and wizards were believed to be descended from Squibs who married Muggles, introducing the potential for magical ability into the bloodline, thus a few generations later a wizard would be born to two Muggles. So no - two Muggles can NOT have a Squib - since we are literally all squibs anyway XD

Alias93

Oh wow, I never realized that the message informing Harry of the time change for the hearing would have been sent to the Dursleys, obviously the ministry doesn't (and shouldn't) know that he is currently living in Sirius Black's house... then again it seems like owls are able to find the person the letter is addressed to no matter where they are, even if the sender themselves doesn't know (like when Harry was sending letters to Sirius in book 4). Tbh I'm not even convinced such a message was sent at all, and even if it was and Harry was still living at the Dursley's, what was he supposed to do in such a short notice? He would have missed the hearing either way, which was most likely the intended outcome... Having read the books first, I always assumed Fudge was working against Dumbledore and Harry in the trial scene, but I can see how it can be different for someone who watched the movies first. The scene with Fudge at the end of the 4th book was really important in setting up his attitude in this book, and should definitely have been included in the movie.

Tiegan

The number to get into the ministry is 62442 because it spells out “magic” when using a number pad with letters! 😁

Will

Perfect video to watch for the night. I spent the entire day cleaning since I have a surgery on Monday. 🫣

Arwen24

It was with Dominic in a movie called Grow.

Josh Z

Thank you!

S1lm4r1l

I think judging it this early is a mistake. He may be more accurate than Rickman. The series itself might well be more accurate than the films. Actors portraying people who they do not resemble has a history that goes back millennia. Ancient Greek plays never had more than 3 actors in them. All of them would play the various roles. Shakespeare wrote plays believing that all the actors portraying his characters would be men. It was illegal for women to be actors at the time. There have been numerous adaptations over the years where characters are adapted based on their actor. One does not have to be an Anti-Semite to like Wagner's music, or play it. Nor does one have to be a transphobe to like JKR's writing. I think most people disagree with the change because they identify with a particular idea of Snape and they imagine that this casting contradicts it.

VeggieGamer

Please make sure I don’t have to mediate, guys😇 it is extremely stressful to do, and Wooz and I have had a lovely day. I did ask to avoid this discussion if possible, and to maybe not engage if you happen to simply disagree with someone.

Dara Jeeling

that's fine Veggie! i am not here to judge anyone - i's justmy view. and I wil not argue. Just my oppinion. as said, anyone who wans to watch is welcome

Dara Jeeling

That is your oppinion and mine is "give me an actor that matches the book descripton" as you pormisd by saying you will be book accurate. You know the upcoming backstory and I can't see that play out withour darker intentions coming in. You know he is my favorite character - and I did not enjoy the film version. So me being upset is just my way. I was looking forward to the series but for me as long as we get a black Snape I will not watch it. I do not care how good of an actor Mr Essiedu is for me he simply is a miscast and he is THE miscast that makes sure I stick with the books and my imagination. My oppinion - everyone can have their own - but thatis mine.

Anders Ekren

I’m saddened that the discussions around the new casting, or the show in general, has become so toxic (I hope the children are being appropriately shielded from this and taken care of). Veggie, one piece of encouragement is that the subreddit for the show is actually brimming with positive vibes and excitement, contrary to other parts of the internet :) Looking forward to the review.

S1lm4r1l

"Dumbledore is playing an extremely risky game." - Veggie, you have no idea. Dumbledore makes speed climbers look sensible and cautious.

Noni

We very briefly heard about Perkins before. The tent they used in goblet of fire was borrowed from him.

Ziro the Hutt

And Paapa Essiedu is a terrific actor. I personally am looking forward to this version of Snape, as good though Rickman was, it was definitely not the Snape from the books.

Ziro the Hutt

You can't win on anything that gets announced, or is done online these days. Too many indoctrinated idiots and bots I'm afraid. Just came back from a Playstation channel where someone was going mental because they mentioned bluesky! I unsubbed from all the subreddits on Last Of Us as it was tiresome hearing the same drivel about certain actors; and no some are moaning here because the little lass that plays Hermione I believe is of Spanish descent (and she looks bossy as hell so imo will suit Hermy perfectly - Rita Skeeter watch out!), and of course the young lad playing Harry (Mc-Lochhhhh-lan is how its pronounced Veggie) is getting some cheek, as he doesn't come from the south of England, but Scotland! I won't even go there with the horrible stuff spouted about Snape's actor. Nobody minded when Ewan McGregor looked nothing like Alec Guinness in Star Wars; but here we are. Suffice to say though, that the kids look perfect for the roles imo. Scary thought that they weren't even born when the final film came out! I believe filming is starting in the next month or two! I have a good feeling about this! Nick Frost I kind of agree with you Veggie. He'll be fine in the comic stuff with Hagrid, but Hagrid is also a gentle soul and I hope he doesn't act like he has to do a Will Ferrell shouting match every time he's on the screen. I'm probably doing Nick a disservice, but I hope he can nail it nevertheless. Jim Carter could easily play Barty Crouch Sr imo. The majority of phone boxes in the 90's were more all glass in design and yep they had the button phones, but there was still plenty of red boxes where I grew up, and they always stank of p*33. My mate always collected the phone cards for these phone boxes. Simpler times eh... Ben Elton and Tim Rice (I think he was co-writer of Blackadder) knew that Rowan Atkinson has a slight speech impediment with the letter 'b', so they got him to say "BoBBB" as much as they could! This is more 1980's and 90's, but do you like 'Allo 'Allo Veggie? It was so daft! I'm sure others have said, but since Arthur and Harry are travelling through London to get to the Ministry, Arthur is trying to dress like a Muggle. One way they could portray that its the same courtroom in the series, is to have a prop that Harry notices in the pensieve, then as he walks into the court here in the fifth book, for him to notice it again, showing the severity that the Ministry is taking this trial, and adding to Harry's fear and anxiety. The 'W' on the Ministers robes, stands for "Wizengamot" - the wizard court, of which Dumbledore was head of until recently, and is why he gets waved at by some, and how its him that dominates proceedings as the hearing goes on, as he has the influence to do so. I love the way JK Rowling introduces Umbridge, keeping her in the dark in the courtroom and only appearing when she starts speaking for the first time. Great way to introduce this book's antagonist. And yes I can see that Studio Ghibli character you refer to when comparing her to Umbridge. Here is one drawing of her that is over the top, but captures her book appearance and personality perfectly. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffkxh667j0at91.jpg Wouldn't it be great to get Dame Imelda Staunton back as her in the series? I thought it was the best acting performance, by far, in the films. The remake of Twelve Angry Men is alright. I mean Jack Lemmon and George C. Scott going at it, come on! Not a patch on the original, but still decent enough with those two titans going at it.

Ziro the Hutt

We can hope for that but its certainly not the case these days, when boomers managed to buy their houses on the cheap, when wages were increasing, when you could go for a night out without it costing a months salary. Here in the UK, wages have been stagnant for 20 years and good luck getting on the housing ladder as a first time buyer. The situation is all due to greed, and it won't change any time soon.

Jo Winters

But you were ok with Rickman being the age of Snape's father? That's accurate?

Jo Winters

It could be an unpopular opinion in some places, but I personally prefer this casting in the cases of Snape, Dumbledore, McGonnagal, and the kids. My reasons are age for McGonnagal and Snape (though I have more reasons for Snape), attitude for Dumbledore and the kids will probably be better actors as the standards changed, and that little girl already handled the main role on stage, which is very difficult! Good on her. All three kids are fantastic, but when I saw her and her little scene from her school, it was my Hermione, Hermione I imagined. It's my favourite casting so far. As for Snape, I think going completely different to Alan Rickman is a way to avoid it feeling like a cosplay. I also personally think that Paapa is a way more versatile actor. The thing with Paapa is that he isn't a characteristic actor who has a characteristic way of speaking in nearly every role. He changes accents, he changes voice tones, he can be crazy, he can be endearing. He is very talented and the right age, which is fantastic to me. Especially that Snape is not stoic and dignified in the books, the way Alan was both in the movies and as a person. So with the right script, I think this Snape has a great chance to be fantastic. As for Dumbledore, personally, this is my favourite Dumbledore because I know a lot about this actor now, and what I have learned is that he is extremely geeky about his roles. He isn't an actor who wouldn't read the books. He is an actor who takes his character seriously, and he is in love with going into details. Don't get me wrong, Michael Gambon's personality? ROCKS! But, he often didn't even read the script by his own admission. So I wonder how an actor who takes his roles so deeply will play Dumbledore. I feel extremely positive about the writers, the show runner, about the casting, about the Privet Drive look that was shown recently. I love that the show runner said it will be very British 90s. I feel extremely happy that JK Rowling is more involved now than she was in the movies. Now that she is involved a lot in her BBC TV series, she has more experience.

Gugurupurasu Daikirai

I think the W is supposed to stand for Wizengamot. 100% people were thinking of Hyacinth Bucket when suggesting Routledge for Umbridge. That show is even somewhat well known in the US because on Sunday nights PBS plays British comedies and it usually starts with Keeping Up Appearances and has for decades.

Ирина Устюгова

Regarding the cast, you have to remember that most of the people who are "furious" about the cast and making videos about Snape aren't even Harry Potter fans. Many of them have never made a single Harry Potter video before. They just jumped on the hate trend, it's very popular now and makes a lot of money. Would I want to get an adaptation with actors who look exactly like the characters? Sure. But I would never think of giving up watching a show based on my favorite book series for such a petty reason. Maybe because I was born and live in an Asian country (I'm white) the whole skin color hysteria never made much sense to me.

Jo Winters

It's not going to be the same. It already was normal, but thank Barbie Kardashians of this world and Isla Brysons and countless others, for it never, ever being the same again. Thank self ID for that too. Unfortunately. But yeah, shouldn't have come for women's space and talk about 'cotton ceiling' and engage in homophobic ideology which cotton ceiling idea is.

Madikuma95

Calling people "indoctrinated idiots" because they don't like the casting of a TV show is a rather rude thing to say.

VeggieGamer

Yeah I like Allo Allo (especially when I was a kid), though I can only watch it in small doses 😆 my mother loved it though!

Alexis Burrows

Sorry Irina, that is just not the case. People merely want to see things how they were written. Is it too much to ask that European cultures are given the same respect that other cultures are given for free?

Alexis Burrows

No. It will not. You know how Media works these days. It is merely the directive that Hollywood etc. is made to follow, to no avail. All it shows is that 'Diversity' has overtaken common sense. Think. As a Snape fan, I have been a supporter for years to the point of actively disliking James Potter and hating Sirius Black, but this is beyond the beyond. It changes the whole story. Potter and Black are R. villains (everyone will cheer when Sirius bites it), Lily left the kid that was not only poor but not of her kind to go out with Potter (with or without the pointed-hood - you tell me!) At least we know now why none of the Professors defended him. Then along comes the 'Grand Wizard Harry. Just PLEASE think about the whole optics of this.

Noni

I wonder if it would stir up the same reaction if the Wesley’s had a flying Ford Escort instead of a Ford Anglia? As far as I can tell, it’s the same thing, a purely cosmetic difference. There is nothing in the characters behavior or storyline that would require them to be a specific race so it’s just not that important. I’d much rather have an actor who can accurately portray the heart of the character rather than their skin.

PumpkinSparks

I'm so sorry your son and you have to go through that! Hopefully things get better for him ❤️ I can understand his stance on Harry Potter. As a queer woman with several trans and non-binary friends and acquaintances JKRs true face was a real shock. Especially for those of us that grew up with HP and whose part of their identity is being a Potterhead. We idolized that woman. She was an integral part of our childhood and youth. So the BS she's been spewing and the grave she's been digging for herself feels like a betrayal to us! A lot of my friends 120% cut their ties with everything HP. Throwing out all their merch and books and hating everything new on principal... I do understand where they're coming from. But for me, I decided to seperate the author from the property. Even as a superfan back in the days we were already pointing out inconsistencies and that she doesn't seem to understand the world she created (like in interviews she would make up "facts" that contradict the already established canon), so seperating her from it was somewhat easy for me. I will not give her money if I can help it (like buying official merch and stuff), but I'm still super excited for new HP projects...

PumpkinSparks

That's how I understand Arthur's clothing choice as well. The Wizarding World seems to believe it's important to be "incognito" when roaming the Muggle world. Not really understanding that we might look at you a bit funny, but not really think much about it if you wore robes... Especially mid-90s in a metropolitan era? There were some strange looking fellas walking around...

PumpkinSparks

I think you had the Fountain of Magical Brethren actually quite right the first time. Yes, the Goblin, Centaur, and House-Elf look up towards the Wizard and Witch. BUT the Wizard is described to be the tallest of them all and the 3 mentioned AND the witch surround him. So while the fountain very blatantly puts the "pure humans" above the "creatures", it subtlety raises the male above the female. I personally believe that this wasn't done intentionally, but the authors conservative world view peaking through. But I'm sure not everyone will agree with me on this - which is fine. Concerning the Britain debate: According to the Cambridge dictionary Britain is basically synonymous with Great Britain. It is defined as "the Island that includes England, Scotland, and Wales" Now, I don't know how true that is, but the way I learned it is that Britain refers to the culmination of those three countries, while Great Britain only refers to the biggest island of the British Isles - so that would exclude Islands like the Isle of Men, and the Orkneys, and the Shetlands, and so on...

PumpkinSparks

For the potential book cover review: My google drive is actually fairly empty. If there is enough interest I can set up something for people to upload them and sort through them to make it more structural for Veggie.

Simon audsley

since I just missed the book club I reworked the comment to fit this section "We're going to do to Lister what Alexander the Great once did to me." After your description of what bothers you couldn't feeling bellow is the most likely problem youd have. Me: I'm sick do death of all this race swap casting I can't be bothered watching the series. Veggie: I don't care about casting choices. five minutes later Veggie: I can no longer watch this abomination it quite clearly states in the book that Rita uses an acid green quill not a scarlet plume. Wish people would stop brining politics into the book club main chat if I wanted politics I've got other sources for that. the yellow fish you had would be smoked haddock( known as finney haddock where I am) or smoked basa, Kippers are usually orange. only yesterday and porco rosso are my favourite Ghibli films. Have got the first kiki delivery service book to help with my Japanese learning. Dumbledore is there early because he knows how fudges mind works so no magic involved the time turner theory doesn't work but I can't remember if it's a spoiler to say why at this point so won't elaborate. Mr Weasley is wearing muggle clothes because they are travelling on muggle public transport and in muggle areas. Harry did the spell in an alley not in an underpass like the film so would be visible to muggles in general not Dudley specifically The fact that only dudley witnessed it would probably have been taken into account in a normal hearing. harry doesn't need to say he recognised the courtroom in the film or series that could be shown by the camera tracking that he is recognizing features of the room such as the chains by the chair. on this read i noticed something in dumbledores address to fudge that I hadn't picked up on before but will have to come back to it later when we get to the relevant part of this book. How does the department of misuse of muggle artifacts asses misuse. since they don't seem to know how muggle things work so how do they know they've been misused. I wonder if the toaster in Mr weasleys office is anyone we know (see above quote)

itsanursething

In the book, wizards are notoriously bad at dressing like m uggles. Arthur is trying to dress like a muggle because he is taking Harry through the guest entrance, which is in the muggle world. So he’s trying to blend in… badly. The W on the robes stands for Wizengamot, which is the ministry’s judicial system… I think.

Marc Post Jr

I’m pretty happy with the casting so far. The casting for Snape is.. interesting. I can imagine they are trying to go a completely different direction with Snape because of Alan Rickman’s iconic performance and no one could ever beat that so they wanted to do something different, I suppose. As long as the performance is good, I’m not going to complain about it. It’s not who I would have casted, but I am interested to see what they’ll do with it. The Golden Trio looks pretty perfect. They do need to crack on with filming because these kids are gonna grow up quick and I really hope they don’t do a recast halfway through. I’m cautiously optimistic about the show

Silas Adler

The coins in fountains is also very common in Germany :)

Katie

Oh I didn't realise they'd confirmed the show will be set in the 90s! So so glad. That's something I was worried about. I thought they might modernise it which would ruin the aesthetic of the series.

Katie

I'm not sure this is an accurate analogy. The optics of a white boy hanging a black boy upside down next to a tree in the 70s is going to be pretty problematic. I've watched a fair few YouTube videos made by black reactors talking about how bad the optics are that they've cast a black actor to play Snape and how they're sick of race swapping white characters with black actors instead of creating new black characters. Snape is probably one of the characters that is most problematic to do this to considering his back story

Noni

Warning Veggie - contains minor book vs film spoilers I can see this viewpoint and understand where it comes from but I do feel that a lot of the concern is based on the movie adaptation so shouldn’t be used when considering how a book faithful adaptation might play out. For example, the reference to Snape being hung upside down next to a tree was movie only. In the book the marauders had been sat under a tree but Snape was a little away from them and had been next to some bushes and was then walking across the lawn when he was attacked. And unless they create a theme of having everyone who gets hoisted upside down played by a black actor then I don’t see a problem with that scene. Also, in my opinion the books are clear, based on the lack of racism depicted, that race does not play the same role in wizard society as it does in muggle society. Also, again just in my opinion, this was a deliberate decision in the writing due to the muggleism being very much a substitute for racism and having both would have muddied the message. I know a lot of the themes and messaging were lost in the movie adaptation but we have to hope that they will make it into the tv show. Like I said though, this is only my opinion.

Hilde

I also think it’s a fair point about the bullying etc and I’m super curious and excited to see how the show makers solve it, but I think people forget that there will most likely (and hopefully) be more than just one black actor in the main cast. Also let’s be honest, *a lot of* the white people complaining (not at all including you here Katie, just to be clear!) are just offended there’s gonna be a black guy playing a famously white book character 🤷🏼‍♀️

Josh Z

Personally I think that this will only become an issue if the writers make it one by drawing attention to his race via dialogue. The girl who plays Annabeth in the Percy Jackson tv series is also black but still does a fantastic job despite the fact that it goes completely against the book description for the character which shows that these decisions are more often than not because the person in question was best for the role

Annette Elliott

You're forgetting that they're going to the Ministry by muggle means. Arthur and Harry would have drawn too much attention on the muggle train in wizard robes and that's the last thing they want. . . It could be that the phone booth has charms on it like the Leaky Cauldron to keep muggles from seeing it so the booth and phone have been there for decades. . Yes 2 Squibs could have a wizard child. Muggleborns have a squib or witch/wizard somewhere in their ancestry. . No wizard/witch under 17 is supposed to do magic outside of Hogwarts but it's harder to determine who performed magic if there are a lot of wizards around and even harder amongst several underage wizards. That's how the kids get away with doing magic on the Hogwarts express.

Katie

I'm hoping it all works out and they stay faithful to the books. Listening to some black YouTubers voice their concerns has made me reconsider this casting but hopefully the writers know what they're doing. We just have to stay optimistic 🙂

Silas Adler

2 Things: 1. Of course 2 squibs can make a witch/wizard because even two muggels can :) 2. I have to disagree on the Fudge Part personally I always had the impression in movies that Fudge was very biased and annoyed when Harry gets released. You can see him basically fuming when he says that Harry can go

VeggieGamer

Thanks Pumpkin!! Maybe at some point soon I can ask for people to give their suggestions. Is it something I should say they should ask you if something is ok/always on their, or are you ok to mediate that? I really appreciate the offer, it is something I have been wanting to try out for a while!

Rhea H Pelotto

Thank you for your continued kind words and support whenever I mention my parents. It genuinely means so much to me and helps to “keep them here”. Example- for only the 2nd time during these reviews, you called me by my mom's name, Renee. Which is perfectly fine and I love… yet still weird because I obviously don't call her that so you have no way of knowing. The universe works in mysterious ways sometimes So it doesn't matter but, I believe Squibs CAN see dementors. Old Figgy arrived right after the attack. She probably only say them leave or had a patronus shrouding it from view. It DOES matter (to me at least).... I can't believe I'm saying this but, John Lithgow was who I wanted to play DUMBLEDORE!!!! I'm not getting to “invested”, not letting myself be drawn in to all the hype because I haven't decided if I'm even going to watch the new show. My generation had our go round, this isn't for us. The only reason I even thought of Dumbledores casting is because I watch The Crown. Not sure if that show is your vibe or the book clubbers but, John Lithgow plays Winston Churchill and he absolutely CRUSHES IT!!!!!! He is a fantastic character actor. I truly believe he will nail the role. I have complete confidence in him and if I watch the show, it will be because of this casting. Dumbledore!! Dumbledore!! Dumbledore!!

Kunzite Blossom

I remember watching the Crown. If you told me Churchill was American I would have said you were lying. I never knew he was American. So I honestly don't mind that casting choice. If he can fool people into thinking hes British (I know I wasn't alone in thinking he was British) he can do it. My only concern is his age. I am just worried about him being up there in age. I'd hate for another Richard Harris situation. Though fingers crossed nothing bad will happen! Can't wait to see him be Dumbledore!

Kunzite Blossom

Same. Not a huge fan of the Snape casting BUT if he does well, and HBO can find a way to keep certain....aspects....at bay it should be ok. I think the biggest problem is how non-fans may react during how society can be today. Let's just pray it goes over smoothly.

Maria

Hi Veggie! I wanted to comment on the idea of doing one chapter per video when we get to the point where the chapters are an hour long. I really support that idea as I feel that it would be tough to cover two hour long chapters in one video, especially if you're trying to keep it under six hours. I just think it would be rushed. However, I support whatever seems best to you!