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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapters 11 & 12! (Patreon)

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That's right! It is time to all have a biscuit and enjoy these 2 great (but chunky) Chapters!Umbridge's first lesson left me utterly furious! XD Luckily it was followed up by a short but excellent scene!

We also discuss Seamus a lot! Very interesting how different the book version is to the movie! I also complain about him doing something that annoyed me in Chamber for no reason XD).

Thank you all so much for the continued support of this series, guys!! It means the world to me! I discuss the 'possibility' of maybe having to do single chapters here or there, but I am ALWAYS after feedback and your thoughts! I want to make sure we do what works best for everyone! :)

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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Order of the Phoenix Chapters 11 & 12!

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Comments

Louisa Lockley

Ah veggie, this is perfect. Just in time for my night shift 😊

Réka Kovács

Unfortunately Veggie, you are absolutely correct about the Hungarian government being very corrupt, and many other faults too, which I won't go on about now.. Just hoping next year it will change with the elections. If we will even have fair elections..

Katie

Yay! Another book review video. I've got to the point with these videos that if it's under 5 hours I think 'oh no, it's a short one this month 🤣

VeggieGamer

Haha, I think I burn through my notes at times because I was a little worried about run time, but it ended up not being an issue! :) Also, probably less tangents than usual! XD

Katie

I never mind your tangents Veggie 😁

Ziro the Hutt

I personally think its crass from Seamus to ask Harry what happened to Cedric that night. Yes he is curious, they all are who weren't there; but we saw how traumatic that was for Harry to experience, and he is not going to recall it to someone who seems to be doubting his word, albeit through his own mother, but then again Seamus also knows Harry better than his mum - so I don't blame Harry for jumping down Seamus's throat and his temper rising.

Noni

Please never lose the tangents. I love taking the scenic route through the book.

Jo Winters

Let's not forget that what happened to Harry that night is the worst trauma in his life so far. Seamus is very rude, considering the context. I cannot imagine someone talking to me this way, a friend, about my trauma. He is not even a bit sensitive about it, so if he is considering it as possibly true, it's just out of line. It's not some gossip. It's like blaming a victim for your mommy not wanting you to return to a place connected with crime, and then asking the victim what happened after that. Harry is a victim of assault and has seen terrible things. Friends not believing the victim is hard, especially for a kid.

PumpkinSparks

I really don't envy your position trying to decide if we should do 1 or 2 chapters at a time. The thing is you only have the length of the chapter to go on, but you don't know what each chapter entails and what we latch onto! For me personally I would have liked these two chapters to be split. They are just so chuck full of informations and moments - but again you had no way of knowing that. And it's a bit selfish of me, cause it took me a long time to decide if I should scratch the surface of my thoughts on the teacher situation in Hogwarts or have a house-rant. Mainly Slytherin (we only have the trios POV of Slytherins and especially Harry is quite judgey and non-observant - we don't know if there are other people getting along with other Slytherins just fine) and the hats absolute diss on Hufflepuff: we have traits!!! We are the house that is loyal and hard working! We are NOT GOATHOUSE!!!!!! (noone will get that reference, but it's true) Love that jumper!

Annette Elliott

Just one chapter is fine. Some of them are pretty long in these later books.

CR Ash

Idk what I'll do when all the books are done 😭😂 One chapter, two chapters its whatever works for you Veg! Thank you for all you do!

Ирина Устюгова

Rowling absolutely loves Hufflepuff (you can find a short clip of her talking about Hufflepuff on YouTube, although it contains minor spoilers for the last book), so I don't think Helga Hufflepuff accepting everyone who was left was a bad thing. I think Helga had her own criteria, but she was also willing to accept people into her house who didn't fit any of the other houses' requirements. Dean defending Lupin is a nice throwback to Prisoner of Azkaban, when he told Snape, "He's the best Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher we've ever had". And you are absolutely right that they made Umbridge funnier in the movie. In the book she is a serious character and in her own way smart and dangerous. In the movie they exaggerated her characteristics so much that she became a caricature. This is one of my problems with this movie, the director added inappropriate humor in almost every scene and just can't convey the atmosphere of the book. It's like they were afraid to make the movie too dark and scare off the audience. Which is strange, considering that, for example, the Chamber of Secrets movie had a much more serious style of narration, although it showed us the adventures of 12-year-olds. Also, you considered doing one chapter every two weeks. Maybe consider doing two chapters every month and a half? I mean, it's still more than one chapter a month, but at the same time you'll have more time to structure your thoughts. But I'm okay with one chapter a month, if that's more convenient for you.

Katie

Professor Binns was a teacher at Hogwarts when he was alive. In his introduction in the first book, it describes him as having died whilst he was asleep in front of the staff room fire and he just up as a ghost and carried on teaching

Kocia

I am all for keeping 2 chapters, just as it is, and doing longer chapters separate. On the other hand I don't mind 5h55min long videos either ;) Do what works for You and we'll be here :)

Inseriousity

Just my two cents on the 2 chapters thing. I'll admit when you first started we all knew that the later books were going to get chunkier. Not only that, the books get more mature in content. Discussing Harry's teen angst and Molly's boggart is not the sort of thing you'd see in the earlier books. Also because the books are bigger and had to be cut down, the difference with the movies also grows. If you had strict prices on your channel I'd say keep going but you let people donate as little as a quid and get all the same material. I'm assuming a lot of people donate what they feel is fair so if you go down to 1 chapter a month and someone is only here for that then at least they have the choice to donate less and still keep access. Alternatively, and I'm not volunteering for it as I don't have the skills myself, is there any chance of getting an editor to help you out with that aspect of things? I think a lot of other channels do that. In short, do what you feel is best, we'll still watch along regardless.

S1lm4r1l

I think Seamus is just looking for the scoop on the hot gossip, rather than giving Harry an avenue to help him towards the truth. Seamus made it clear that he didn't think much of Cedric, and displayed no awareness that this might be a sensitive topic for Harry. Dean shows indications of being more interested in the narrative than he lets on but unlike Seamus doesn't press the point. I'm quite certain that Seamus told his mother that the Prophet's characterization of Harry was not accurate, but was left without any other way to defend what Harry was saying. Harry handled the situation badly but Seamus's subtle offer to believe Harry (or convince his mother) if he spilt the beans on his trauma was very insensitive at best. Most videos should be 2 chapters, but there are definitely chapters coming up that you might wanna consider doing as a stand-alone. This is the most weirdly paced of all 7 books.

Simon audsley

you did almost get a quote from allo allo as I have just finished rewatching I think it possibly has one of the best first episodes of any sitcom just for the do you have a light scene alone, not sure I could do a quote from my current sitcom as I doubt you would have watched Hugh and I, though there's a lot of carry on and sitcom faces cropping up in it. you should have gone for slap and tickle over hanky panky. garibaldi yum

Katie

Jaffa Cakes are not considered biscuits!!!

Rhea H Pelotto

I think the word you were looking for is "correlation" unless I misunderstood what you were trying to say about Ron. Definition- Correlation refers to a statistical relationship or association between two or more variables. It indicates the extent to which changes in one variable are related to changes in another. It's crucial to understand that correlation does not imply causation; just because two things are correlated doesn't mean one causes the other. I really wish you had physical copies of the books because Umbridges character illustration at the beginning of the chapter is rather epic. She literally was drawn to look like a toad. No exaggeration. I find it hilarious and satisfying because she is such a "B". Also I look at the characters as "fiction" first not real people. It's more enjoyable that way.

Ziro the Hutt

Thats an old term of speech. You see it in the Sherlock Holmes books. Watson used to "ejaculate" all the time!

Diego Zenhäusern

I completely agree with you about Harry's argument with Sheamus. I really feel like he could have convinced Sheamus of his story if he'd reacted friendlier and tried to explain he situation. And I really think that he was way out of line when he immediately insulted Sheamus' mother and it was basically the worst thing he could have said. P.S. 1:40:45 Sometimes you're just such a troll, Veggie!😅 Edited to change "Dean" to "Sheamus"🙈😅

Cari Ann

Where's the next avatar episode? We usually get it Sunday right? Everything okay? So excited for the storm ❤️

Andrew K

Hey Veggie! Firstly, do whatever you feel most comfortable with regarding 1 or 2 chapters. I will be here the whole way and I’m sure everyone else will be too. Perhaps if there’s someone trusted in the Patreon who could inform you whether one very full chapter will be enough for one month, or whether the two chapters aren’t as jam-packed on a certain month, will help you pick and choose when and where to do one or two chapters rather than making a distinct and bold rule for the book club. And maybe even just play it by ear on whether you feel up to doing one or two each month too.

Cari Ann

Oh thanks must have missed that line

Dara Jeeling

I know... Here we go - Snape. Once again - is he a good teacher? No and people tend to forget he is only there because he is made o be there. The only thing that is unfair is that he vanishes the potion. It's Harry s fault he did not read correctly. BUT no he sould not have vanished the potion (just rate it) OR he should have vanished all the potions that were not okay. But Rowling still distinguishes between this unfair reaction and sadism - which is what Umbridge uses. Snape sort of warns the students of (in his own way with threats and disriinations) that those who want to stay n HIS potions class (and Harry wants to be an auror - he needs potions) need to notch up a LOT. There are certain teachers (and for me Snape is one of them) that is more prone to be teaching older and more experienced students. But that is out of the windos XD Also... that he writes the instructions down XD Anyone ever thought WHY? I know we're not in HBP yet.... This is when I hardly ever retchthe movies. Movie 1-3 is okay - 4 is... I can watch it. Every movie after 4 is just XD As people have stated before - the director of the last 4 imo left to much out (which would have been bad enough) and invented things - that made no sense. People tend to forget that now that Voldemort is back in a fully grown body there are now three more jobs for Sapeto do (besides the ones he had before and another burden) He is PotionsMaster, Head of SlytherinHouse and now he is backto being an active Death Eater and ash to espond to Vldmorts summons. He also spies for the Order AND he is a part of the people working against Umbridge. Snape (and Dumbledore) try to be one step ahead of Voldemort,.

Gugurupurasu Daikirai

Oh I will go far enough to straight up defend Seamus. He wasn't even trying to bring it up and he was willing to let Harry tell his side of the story but Harry just threw a tantrum at him, that falling out was almost entirely Harry's fault. Of course that's not how the movie portrayed it. The Sorting Hat explained in his song in Goblet that over one thousand years ago he was Godric Gryffindor's hat and the four founders directly enchanted him for the purpose of sorting, so that hat has been around since the beginning of Hogwarts and Dumbledore doesn't really have any say over what the hat does

Hawwah

Hi Veggie! I feel like I should elaborate about my point of view because there's very limited space in the book club. I always struggle to trim my comment down to an acceptable length and that's why I try to express myself as bluntly as possible. Unfortunately to some people I then come across as angry which is not my intention at all. This is probably going to be a very long comment. Veggie, I absolutely understand if you don't feel like reading it all. I can imagine you probably have better things to do. But I'm going to write it down anyway even if it's just to collect my thoughts. * About sticking to current chapters and not bringing up stuff from the previous books. I admit this is very difficult to me. The way I see it, the whole Harry Potter series is one continuous story. Our current two chapters don't exist in a vacuum. They follow on from previous events and set up future ones. And the events that occurred before absolutely DO have influence on how I read our current chapters. Let me give you an example. Remember when Lockhart accidentally erased his memory and ended up with magical equivalent of severe and permanent brain damage? At the end of CoS there is a short scene with Lockhart babbling incoherently when Dumbledore asks him a question. Lockhart doesn't even recognize his own name anymore. If I were to consider that scene in a vacuum and ignore all information from previous chapters, I would just feel terribly sorry for Lockhart - a severely disabled man at the mercy of strangers - and that would be it. But since I know that Lockhart in the past wiped out the memories of multiple people without their consent and suffered his injury while he was trying to wipe out Harry's and Ron's, I view that scene somewhat differently. I still think Lockart's fate is horrible (Rowling can be ruthless to her characters) but at the same time I see the the great irony of Lockhart ending up exactly like his victims. Getting a dose of his own medicine. And that's also why I feel way less sorry for him than I would otherwise. * Which brings me back to Harry. Objectively, what he's going through in these chapters is wrong. And I still feel sorry for him to some extent. At the same time, I find it deeply ironic and somewhat amusing that the boy who has spent so much time falsely accusing his teacher ends up falsely accused. I think it's one of the best examples of karma in the Harry Potter series. In my opinion it's wrong to ignore this layer of the story just because it's "something from previous chapters". As I said, this is one story, one continuous narrative. Harry doesn't start with a clean slate at the beginning of each book. The things he had done in the past didn't cease to exist when we moved from one book to another. Harry is getting a taste of his own medicine in these chapters. That's an important context and we would be doing a disservice to the story if we just ignored this fact.

Alexis Burrows

I expect there was an element of Seamus also WANTING to believe his Mum, not just the natural loyalty a kid gives to a parent. It must be a comfort to believe that when your parent tells you that it's all O.K. and you are NOT in danger of being wiped-out by a mad, historical yet real-life Bogey-Man, you can breathe again and be happy, because if Mum says it it MUST be true. I guess Mum was also fooling herself for exactly the same reason. Like 'Peace in our Time.'

Kunzite Blossom

I do totally understand Seamus may not have been trying to "attack" Harry. However in Harry's defense, he just watched someone die under 3 months ago while also having to escape death himself. He's clearly being kept in the dark about what is going on, and he's 15! Not only is he grieving the death of Cedric, but that whole encounter was traumatic! I'm not at all surprised Harry doesn't want to discuss it. He won't even talk to his best friends about it in full, why would others think he will talk to them? Now another way to look at it. Since they have been living in the same dorm and being in classes together for 4 years, now going onto 5. Seamus has no reason to think Harry is lying and by asking it may have felt like an attack to Harry. I do understand Seamus may want to believe his mother, but realistically who would you trust? Your mother who is only listening to the news, or trust the person who the news is about that you personally know? However, I do not think Harry should have insulted his mother, but at the same time, emotions. He's angry and it probably slipped out without him thinking about it.

Hawwah

(I accidentally posted the previous comment mid-typing but since it was pretty long already I decided to leave it as it is and continue in a new comment.) I will address two arguments regarding Harry's behavior I keep getting. * The first argument is that Harry is still a minor and that's why he doesn't know he should apologize when he wrongly accuses someone. I can't accept this argument because of Ernie MacMillan and Justin Finch-Fletchey. Why these two Hufflepuff boys of all people? Because they both accused Harry of being the heir of Slytherin in CoS. They both publicly apologized to Harry when they realized they were wrong. Neither of them ever accused Harry again. * How come these two background characters have more accountibility for their actions and more personal growth than Harry, our main character? All I want from Harry is do what Ernie and Justin did. Just apologize to the person you wrongly accused and never do it again. That would suffice. Ernie and Justin managed to do that at age 12/13. How is Harry "too young" at age 15? Why are we holding Harry to lower standards? * Second argument I keep getting goes like this. Harry is our main character and that's why we readers are supposed to root for him and not criticize him. I'm sorry but this approach is just plain wrong in my opinion. First of all, I don't believe in double standards. Something that's morally wrong doesn't stop being so just because a main character does it. We shouldn't hold a main character to a lower standard than everyone else. Second of all, we readers are not required to blindly agree with the author. Readers are free to form their own opinions, disagree with the author's worldviews, criticize one or more aspect(s) of the book and even reject the book's message as a whole when it comes to it. And I'm not talking just about Harry Potter here, I'm talking about literature in general. I should also add that in my opinion disagreeing with some aspects of the book doesn't mean you hate the book as a whole. It's not either/or. You can agree with some of the author's views while rejecting others. You can condone some of the characters' actions and criticize others. You can dislike certain characters and still be interested in what happens to them. All that is a fair game in my opinion.

Diego Zenhäusern

Yeah, petsonally I think the whole argument is rather irrational on both ends (i.e. Sheamus expecting Harry to talk about his trauma to him and Harry immediately going for the jugular by attacking Sheamus' mom) and could have been avoided. That said I think it is a perfect way to show that the two of them (and everyone else in the room) are still teenage boys and usually won't have that kind of empathy and collectedness needed to avoid/ defuse such arguments...not to say that every adult would have that because many of us (I myself included depending on the situation) don't. So I think it's actually great writting even though it's frustrating.

Diego Zenhäusern

@Natasha thanks for listening back to it. Because I couldn't remember hearing it at all either, but I was to lazzy to go back and double check.🙈😅

Diego Zenhäusern

Oh, you're absolutely right. Thanks for catching that, I've just edited my comment.🙂

Diego Zenhäusern

Great analysis on Snape acknowledging both his flaws as a teacher and as a person but also pointing out how much he's actually doing for our cause DESPITE of his flaws and under how much stress he is. I really enjoy him as a character. Which is why I always get upset when people either try to paint him as "a purely evil and irredeemable creep" or - on the other hand - as "a fundamentally good guy who'd love to be best friends with Harry and all the other Griffindors but can't because his role as a double agent is keeping him from doing it". I just think it takes away so much from the complexity of his character.😕

Ирина Устюгова

Literally no one said that Harry is the main character and therefore shouldn't be criticized. Sorry, but for some unseen reason you chose to adoring an ex-Nazi, ignoring all of his flaws, and in the process hating absolutely every other character (didn't you say in previous book clubs that it was Neville's fault that Snape bullied him?). And don't get me wrong, Snape is probably in my top 10 favorite characters. He has some badass moments where you can actually respect him. But your double standards for Snape, who was a terrible person and only changed his ways because his crush was targeted, and the sheer unfairness and nitpicking of real heroes like Harry. It's just painful.

Madikuma95

Please reconsider using the word "Nazi" so casually, especially against fictional characters. It's unnecessarily inflammatory and overusing it devalues the seriousness of that word.

Ирина Устюгова

Okay, he willingly joined an organization whose whole purpose was to enslave, kill, assault, and sometimes steal magic from Muggle-borns, Muggles, "half-breeds" and magical creatures. What do you call someone like that? A member of a knitting club? I don't understand why we should be afraid to call oppression oppression. The organization was bluntly stating that anyone who wasn't pureblood was unworthy of life. To me, that's a direct parallel to Nazism. It seems to me that the fear of calling a spade a spade and the desire to sugarcoat characters like Snape "devalues the seriousness of that word" much more.

Hawwah

Irina, I'm sorry, but this is just a bunch of nonsense that directly contradicts the books. 1) In the world of Harry Potter, it was actually the muggles who oppressed, persecuted and murdered witches and wizards for having the gift of magic. It's why the wizarding folks went into hiding several centuries ago and why they're still in the hiding today. The wizarding folks in HP live in illegality. They can't live openly as wizards and witches. They constantly have to hide who they really are because otherwise they would face persecution. If that's not opression, I don't know what is. 2) It it actually the ministry of magic that persecutes non-human magical creatures. Not Voldemort. "The second step you must take - and at once," Dumbledore pressed on, "is to send envoys to the giants." "Envoys to the giants?" Fudge shrieked, finding his tongue again. "What madness is this?" "Extend them the hand of friendship, now, before it is too late," said Dumbledore, "or Voldemort will persuade them, as he did before, that he alone among wizards will give them their rights and their freedom!" (GoF, chapter 36.) The giants didn't join Voldemort because they wanted to "steal magic from muggleborns" or some other nonsense you wrote. They joined him because he promised them he will give them basic rights and freedoms that the ministry denied them. That was their motivation. And that's not merely my opinion. It's right here in the text, from Dumbledore's mouth. 3) You wrote that "The organization was bluntly stating that anyone who wasn't pureblood was unworthy of life." This is a lie. Voldemort never bluntly stated that. On the contrary, he masqueraded himself as a liberation leader. That's why oppressed magical creatures like giants or werewolves joined him in flocks. Ironically, the DEs were far more accepting of non-human magical creatures than the ministry was. Also, if the DEs had been "bluntly stating that anyone who wasn't pureblood was unworthy of life", then it would not have been possible for Severus to join them. Because he is not pureblood. He is a son of a muggle and a blood traitor. Did you forget that? Yet the DEs accepted Severus. They didn't care that his blood was not "pure". Which once again proves you wrong. The people who actually thought Severus was unworthy of life were wealthy Gryffindor purebloods James Potter and Sirius Black. But that's for a whole another debate and I don't want to get into it right now.

Ирина Устюгова

"In the world of Harry Potter, it was actually the Muggles who oppressed, persecuted and murdered witches and wizards for having the gift of magic" - No, Hagrid tells Harry that wizards hide their magic from Muggles because otherwise Muggles would expect wizards to solve all their problems. In Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry reads that Muggles burned people they thought were wizards at the stake, but they couldn't harm real wizards. There was even a witch who liked to be burned at the stake. How could Muggles kill, persecute and oppress wizards if a wizard could just say "imperius" or "obliviate". "If that's not oppression, I don't know what is" - it's not oppression. Oppression is the deprivation of basic human rights by those in power. Muggles have never had any power over wizards. "It it actually the ministry of magic that persecutes non-human magical creatures. Not Voldemort" - both things can be true at the same time lol. The Ministry of Magic was also corrupt and oppressive, but not even close to the level of Voldemort, who was willing to kill magical creatures to achieve his goals. Or have you forgotten what he did to Kreacher? "On the contrary, he masqueraded himself as a liberation leader" - yeah, you wrote that yourself. In front of magical creatures, he masqueraded himself as a liberal leader in order to USE them as cannon fodder in the war. But all his Death Eaters knew perfectly well how he really felt about giants, werewolves and elves. When he finds out that Tonks married Lupin, he mocks her in front of his Death Eaters and says that it's a disgrace to Bellatrix. By your logic, he should have said that he accepts werewolves as equals. No, all of his Death Eaters, including Snape, knew perfectly well his real attitude towards non-human magical creatures. And only in a twisted reality "the DEs were far more accepting of non-human magical creatures than the ministry was". Voldemort literally tells Bellatrix to kill Tonks for dating a werewolf. "Also, if the DEs had been "bluntly stating that anyone who wasn't pureblood was unworthy of life", then it would not have been possible for Severus to join them." - They are all hypocrites, including Voldemort, who pretended to be a pureblood his entire life. They all knew perfectly well that truly pureblood wizards do not exist, but they still continued to push their completely artificial ideology. When it was convenient for them, they could forget some of their postulates. And Voldemort was perfectly aware that he would not win a war with 10 pureblood wizards. And Snape was also his very useful servant, and even Slytherin himself accepted half-bloods into his house, apparently they were considered "not muggle enough" to die. "The giants didn't join Voldemort because they wanted to "steal magic from muggleborns" or some other nonsense you wrote" - I didn't write this, apparently my English is not good enough for you to understand me. "The people who actually thought Severus was unworthy of life were wealthy Gryffindor purebloods James Potter and Sirius Black" - and yet somehow it was Snape who became the main cause of James's death, and not the other way around.

Hawwah

Okay, this is just ridiculous. The main cause of the Potter's death was Voldemort. The second most responsible person was Pettigrew, who ratted him out. The third most responsible person was Black who talked Potter into making Pettigrew his secret keeper. He even admitted it himself in PoA! "You killed my parents," said Harry, his voice shaking slightly, but his wand hand quite steady. Black stared up at him out of those sunken eyes. "I don't deny it," he said very quietly. "But if you knew the whole story -" (PoA, chapter 17) Voldemort, Pettigrew and Black are the three main causes of Potter's death. In this precise order. To blame Severus, who went out of his way to warn Dumbledore and risked his own life doing so, that's not just unfair, it's blatantly absurd. It's obvious to me that you're just a hater who's not interested in a serious discussion. Good bye.

Ирина Устюгова

Voldemort, Pittegrew and Snape were the main reasons why Harry's family died. Blaming Black when Snape was serving Voldemort and told him a prophecy he knew would cause innocent people to die is another level of bullshit. Anyone who actually read the books, and didn't just skim them to find the paragraph with Snape, knows that Black only said that out of an overwhelming sense of guilt. Not because he was actually in any way to blame for the Potters' deaths (he wasn't). "To blame Severus, who went out of his way to warn Dumbledore and risked his own life doing so" - girl, only after he asked Voldemort to kill James and Harry in exchange for Lily's life. And when he realized that Voldemort didn't really care, he ran to Dumbledore. Not because he suddenly had some kind of moral compass. If Lily hadn't been involved and Voldemort had chosen the Longbottoms, Snape would have remained in his service as a Death Eater. "It's obvious to me that you're just a hater who's not interested in a serious discussion" - you constantly distort the books and hate other characters for no reason to elevate Snape, this is not a serious discussion. Other people have favorite characters too and no, it's not always Snape. If the only way to love a character is to constantly put other characters down, then there is something seriously wrong with that character or your interpretation of them.

K

Squibs are described as a very rare phenomenon, and also as something shameful to a magical family. I don’t think it’s unbelievable at all that no one cares about their abilities! The Wizarding World has been busy trying to pretend they don’t exist. Even putting that aside, there wouldn’t exist many squibs who would have actually encountered a Dementor so I doubt there’s any literature or definitive answers about it.

itsanursething

Just out of curiosity, how do you do your notes for the book club? I’m re-reading along with you and I just do them as I read. Just wondering if there’s a way to help make things easier for you 😊 I’ve also always wondered if it would be easier for you to maybe do 2 videos. One where you go over your notes that we respond to with the book club, and then the next video is your response to our book club comments. I know things get repeated a lot, and this could maybe cut down some time? Maybe? I don’t know! Just ideas! Feel free to hate them and totally disregard if they won’t work for you!

Q

Can't believe I missed the book club for these chapters! But it probably would have been a long waffle of a comment about Seamus ultimately just saying what you already said! Seamus is one of my favorite characters. I will bring up that we know a minimal amount about his home life, but we know that his dad is a muggle who didn't know about magic until after he married Seamus's mum. I personally headcanon that there's some conflict between his parents, and he's very close to his mother, so of course Harry calling her stupid would make him snap back and double down on agreeing with her. I work as a paraeducator in the US (basically assisting kids in the classroom who need more help or have specific accommodations for disabilities), and oh boy does Umbridge piss me off. And so does Snape. If I were in Snape's classroom and he treated a student like that in front of me, I would be reporting him, and when Dumbledore didn't do anything about it for his own reasons I would hopefully be brave enough to confront him myself, and he would just have to hope my pacifism was strong enough. Ron and Hermione bickering and Harry snapping at them makes so much sense to me. Ron and Hermione have both been known to argue with each other and with others in a good-natured, easily brushed aside way. Ron's family certainly has its arguments, but until recently they have never been too serious or at least not irreconcilable. Sometimes they're even fun arguments about Quidditch. For Harry growing up, any kind of argument was a source of danger. He may not fear the Dursleys much anymore, but that doesn't mean the effects of his childhood would vanish. We very rarely if ever see Harry have this kind of bickering argument with anyone. He is either having a civil discussion or a full-fledged fight. So being in the presence of this kind of in-between, bickering sniping that Ron and Hermione do could be genuinely stressful for him as well as just annoying, not that I think he's consciously making that connection of course. Probably a good thing I missed the book club after all, looking at the length of this comment lol. Anyway, great video as always Veggie!

Jacqueline Chaiton

There's no point getting into this argument with Hawwah, tbh. They accused me of trying to twist things to influence Veggie in a comment I made on a movie review when they flat out said that Harry did something (told an authority figure that he thought Snape was after the stone in book one) when he never told anyone other than Hagrid, who had no authority at that point. Side note, I 100% agree with you on the comparison between death eaters and Nazis, especially as the grandchild of Holocaust survivors myself. I think it's such an obvious comparison and I'm not sure why people shy away from it.