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Buffy The Vampire Slayer Session 7 Episode 19 First Time Watching Reaction! (Patreon)

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####### EPISODE SPOILER REVIEW BELOW! APPARENTLY SOME OF YOU ARE WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME ALONG SIDE ME, SO PLEASE DON'T READ BEYOND THIS POINT UNTIL YOU HAVE SEEN THE EPISODE YOURSELF! ######

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Love that we get a liminal episode this late into the season! I just need your help on that final scene...

Love you, guys~

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Eric Hunter

Empty Places is widely disliked by the fandom for obvious reasons. I suspect the contentious plot-point is there to set-up the rest of the season.

Ashley Evers

I agree with you that Anya’s speech especially is weird in that last scene. It should have come from one of the potentials to be believable, for someone who’s been there the whole time to claim that Buffy hasn’t earned it is wild. I’m not shocked Anya isn’t on Buffy’s side, but I feel like the reasoning she gave doesn’t track. I do tend to think that what happened was earned, there’s been a ton of tension and hopelessness the whole season, and this makes sense as a result. For a while now, Buffy has been reacting to people’s emotional needs by essentially telling them to suck it up. The scene definitely isn’t perfect, and it might have been nice to see more from characters like Willow and Dawn to explain how they got here, but that’s part of the problem with having so many characters at this point, someone’s going to fall through the cracks. Windmills is a reference to the novel Don Quixote. In that story, the main character is essentially delusional, having read too many historic books about chivalry and knights, so he goes out claiming to be a knight looking for adventures and reinterpreting everyday events as fantastical, romantic stories. In the most famous part of the story, he decides that a bunch of windmills are in fact giants with terrible spinning arms, and he tries to attack them, with predictably bad results. Because of this story, “Tilting at windmills” has become shorthand for fighting imaginary enemies/imaging enemies or opposition that isn’t there, or generally being delusionally optimistic in the battles you try to fight. In this case, I think Giles is saying that they don’t really know what they are fighting or how to be effective against it, they just keep running into a wall. Also, those were real cops, the scene at the beginning set up that the hell mouth was essentially driving them a little crazy and ‘overenthusiastic’ in doing their jobs.

Madikuma95

Hot pockets are savory like pepperoni pizza or ham and cheese, pop tarts are sweet like frosted cherry or cinnamon brown sugar. :P

x_Rhi_x

Hate that end scene..giles losing all faith in buffy, anya saying "you didnt earn it" like wtf, and the worst is dawn...after everything buffy has done for her...died for her...and she kicks buffy out of her own house?!

Lime Pie

The band that plays in the Bronze is Nerf Herder, the band that made the intro of the show. The cops were being more aggressive because of the hellmouth. One of the potentials had a line “these cops are really getting hellmouthed”. The windmills is a reference to Don Quixote, who thinks some windmills are evil giants and tries to fight them despite being warned not to and gets really injured. I have tried the onion blossom. They are very delicious! You are among many that are bothered by the final scene. I would say you were more understanding of it than most. I personally think it was setup and fits the narrative well, but I understand why it feels very off to most.

Jordan McLaren

I'm not as vehemently against the final scene as most, though I agree that it feels abrupt - Anya's speech and Dawn kicking her out especially feel very strange. To be honest, I think Buffy needed a bit of a reality check. She's been increasingly distant and pushing people away, convinced only she's capable of making the right decisions even as everyone around her becomes more and more frustrated and frightened by her leadership. A good leader isn't just someone who barks orders, and Buffy's been a pretty poor leader this season in my opinion. Her confidence has been earned by years of making the hard decisions, undoubtedly, but it's hardened into something closer to authoritarianism; she's reached the point where she can't see how much she's systematically alienated almost everyone around her. For me, there's an important distinction between saying Buffy deserved to be kicked out and saying that some kind of confrontation was necessary. She didn't deserve to be ganged up on and humiliated, but she needed to stop and actually listen to people. At this point, she's stopped hearing disagreement as useful and constructive criticism and just started dismissing it out of hand. Leadership isn't about having all the answers, and sometimes it means trusting those around you enough to let them challenge you. The confrontation is painful and messy, as such arguments often are, but I think it's exactly what she needed. Everyone's thoughts and feelings on the scene are valid, and I might be a bit of an outlier, but I just don't hate it as much as most viewers apparently do.

James McCarthy

Yeah season 7 has some pretty big problems, the pacing and writing is rather poor especially compared to the rest of the show. They had some ideas for what they wanted to do with the First and then could not due to actor availability and we ended up with a mess of a season and plot

James McCarthy

The turn on Buffy is the most idiotic writing in the whole show it comes out of no-where and breaks all established character arcs without feeling like that was earned. The potentials turning on Buffy sure that makes sense it is immensly stupid of them but they are new. But the gang turning on her, never. They have been through so much together and no matter what has happened they would not all abandon her like that. Giles no matter how disappointed would never.

James McCarthy

Another two reasons this end scene is stupid 1) It is her damn house, even if you were against Buffy which makes no sense to these characters you are kicking Joyce's daughter out of her house, Joyce who you loved and mourned her daughter you are throwing out alone to die. HOW DARE YOU! 2) This very season we were in a worst state with the uber vampire terrorizing everyone and the potentials scared, we just did this plot line and what happened? Exactly what matches the characters, Willow, Xander and Buffy the gang got together in secret and worked out a plan to unify the group and keep everyone safe luring the uber vamp into the construction site showdown. Reaching for straws because the narrative was failing and they jump to this for cheap drama defying all our protagonists personalities. Pathetic Josh

James McCarthy

Yep out of her own house and Joyce's house, how dare you betray Joyce's memory like that by banishing her daughter

Kongolor

Buffy kicks herself out of the house, when she escalates the argument by saying, when she's losing the argument "I can't stay here and watch you not do what I'm saying we should do and you're refusing to do". What are they supposed to do at that point if they refuse to march to their deaths? Dawn is correct that it is her house too, Buffy has just made a massive mistake and is doubling down on it, without saying what she's going to do differently. You can argue the writing is bad and it's come relatively out of nowhere, which I would agree with but what's on screen, I'd say Dawn and the rest are well within their rights to make the decision they have. Dawn even tells the other potential to shut her mouth so she's not relishing what she's done or anything.

Kongolor

This is a pretty even handed outlook on the episode that I happen to agree with. I think the dislike of this episode is a bit overblown personally. I've seen people straightforwardly describe it as "the most controversial episode of Buffy" which I question massively with Seeing Red off to the side there. It does feel like it comes out of nowhere though, instead of some of these sillier episodes between the uber vamp and Storyteller and Caleb showing up they probably should have amped up the feeling that Sunnydale is falling further than it ever has before, vamps are openly in the streets as opposed to alleys, the harbingers are all about and people are disappearing, show Buffy and the gang getting fried and increasingly worn down, etc. Show why all the people are leaving en masse and the monsters are the majority now. Then combine that with the failed attack on the vineyard, it'd make the ending here go down a lot easier. Instead it just feels like despite everything, the First still isn't really a big threat despite them keeping on saying it is. Like they send all the potentials and Dawn off from the Bronze alone so Faith and Buffy can have their little fight, that seems like it should be a very dangerous thing to do?

Jake M

37:45 Fittingly given your earlier Star Trek allusion, Nerf Herder are performing their track "Mr Spock" at the Bronze XD (You don't want a boyfriend // What you want is Mr Spock // To come to your Hellmouth // and destroy The Fi-i-i-i-irst))

Jake M

"This is my house too" As far as I'm aware that doesn't mean you can force your legal guardian out of it, Dawn? I find the whole scene OOC for so many of them. Willow said nothing? I'd say she earned the right over the last seven years. Has Anya been asleep for those or something? Didn't they literally pull her out of heaven because they needed her leadership? Absolute disgrace.

Jake M

Buffy who is literally her legal guardian and has no authority to do so!?

Diego Zenhäusern

Watching the series for the first time I think it makes a lot of sense! And I also don't think it is out of character for Willow, Giles, Xwnder and Dawn to question Buffy judgement. I mean we just barely got out of the vineyard agains an opponent clearly neither Buffy nor Faith nor anyone else can handle. And Buffy's great master plan is "gat back in there. This time it will work out." So I think Buffy really needed to hear that this doesn't make sense without sitting down and thinking strategy and I think it made sense for them to stop her. And seeing as she was so up in her being "the leader" that the only way to get her to stop was to tell her that she wasn't te leader anymore. It's sad, but I really get it! That said: Anya's point of Buffy "not earning it" is ridiculous and I have no idea how such a boatload of crappy and nonsensical dialog could make it into that scene. And having Dawn tell her to go was also way to far and out of character. It would have made 1000% more sense for Buffy to just storm out and "resign" her leadership once it became clear that even Dawn didn't think she should lead at this moment. We still could have had the conversation between Faith and Buffy outside. And it all would have felt way more like a tragic missunderstanding where Buffy left in the heat of the moment instead of them just all ganging up on her and throwing her out.

jolt45

Perhaps this is an unpopular opinion, but I think the only one that's been out of character this season is Buffy. She deserves to be told off like that and she has been mostly useless lately. She's gotten people killed. She's acting clueless and immature. They have every reason to doubt her. Buffy sucks this season. As far as Anya's comments are concerned...Buffy earned their respect its true but she has since lost it. Her point is that Buffy shouldn't be the defacto leader just because she's the slayer, which I agree with.