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Buffy Fridays! Season 2 Episode 7 First Time Reaction! (Patreon)

Published:
2023-01-06 19:36:30
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2023-01-06 19:38:18
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dzKjlh1o1iWG1L319YHhMiRJmYkF3Crp/view?usp=share_link

Damn.. I forgot to give Spike MADE PROPS in the end review for having his first amazing line!! I'll try to remember to do so next time! XD

Wow... This was excellent, guys.  A great concept for an episode with a twist, which honestly took the wind out of me a bit.  Heartbreaking.  I love how even in 'side quest' episodes, the main villains still have a strong presence so far this series.  And we find out some very interesting backstories here too.

Love you guys!  Like I say, the twist kind of messed with my mind a little so I hope I didn't seem too down on the post-episode review.  I really did love this one.

Have a great weekend!

As always, if you check this out straight away, you may need to download first before watching.  It should be streamable in a few hours! :)

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Comments

Saiyasha

Giles 'Lie' at the end always hits me in the heart. It shows how much he is growing into being a father figure for Buffy. I mean, that _is_ why we tell our children Bedtimestories with happily ever afters. because we would love to be able to shield them from what is out there. because we wish to preserve the happieness and innocence they feel. Giles knows of course, the Buffy knows better then this, but it is still sweet how he tells it to her as if he was a father comforting a young child by telling them that the world is just and good and everything will be alright.

Jake M

A door that only opens from the outside...that sounds plot convenient, and a fire hazard XD

Hanneli Norrgard

With where most think this show is supposed to be set, it would have to be pretty late for it to be that dark, even in November. However, a lot about the show doesn't make sense for where people presume it's supposed to be set.

Milku Grace TV

This was a beautiful reaction. THANK YOU. You tearing up made me tear up. This is one of my favorite episodes of this whole series. I think it's just really powerful. Buffy is dealing with all the confusing emotions of growing up and the story with Ford betraying her just adds so much depth to this show. Love it. Thanks so much!

Thom Purdy

When Angel gives his monologue about Drusilla, I always remember what the Master said about Angel: "He was the most vicious creature I ever met".

Todd Bolton

Extra points for the Mr. Orange/Reservoir Dogs mention. Twice you’ve noticed the microphones, now. That is because you’re watching the widescreen, HD version. You said ‘first good line for Spike’ (it was a good line, about food delivery) but I will return to the point I’ve already made, that they are fortunately sacrificing one-liners for character building. We don’t see Spike enough to get the one-liners that Buffy has the luxury of uttering, since we see her for a majority of scenes every episode. Every line shows us something about Spike; he doesn’t really become a comedy-based character until a few episodes from now, when he gets hurt. He’s mostly supposed to be terrifying (and interesting, especially in his interactions with Dru). He does work better as a comedy character, and then in later seasons when his character is much more complex. I’ll try to put this quibble aside, now (though I might not succeed). I appreciate you saying that you don’t have sympathy for Ford. Many seem to. I consider this one of the bottom five episodes of all seven seasons for that reason. A whole lot of good stuff in it and there was a good idea somewhere in it (and your reaction to the whole setup made me appreciate it more) but, in the end, I can’t have sympathy for a (human) mass murderer and it seems like Whedon is asking me to. So on repeat viewings a lot of the episode falls apart. Also, the actor who plays Ford seems substandard – but that may be because he’s asked to play an impossible part (a sympathetic mass murderer). I appreciate your love of Diego, while Chanterelle is my favorite. By now, you should know why.

Frederique Gillespie

I've been checking the page off and on for the past couple of hours to see if you'd had a chance to see this one. I will obviously come back to post my comments after watching it. However, having read your comments, I just wanted to let you know that this is an episode that leaves everyone a little down. It's the point, really. Growing up is accepting that there are few easy answers. ETA - Alright. I'm back. And you didn't come off as too down, in my opinion. Just the right amount of down, considering the storyline in this episode. His name is/was Ford, like the American car company. Short for Fordham, his surname. Don't beat yourself too much for getting it wrong or you will make me feel bad for all the names I got wrong when I initially watched the show, not wholly fluent in English. So, yeah, this was an episode about growing up. It started with a little boy. We learned that Angel mentally tortured Druscilla during her formative years, which turned her insane. Buffy, of course, got the big lesson in how, as you get older, simple answers get harder to come by. Remember when Willow yelled at Giles "She's 16, going on 40"? Well, here you are. Buffy is still 16 years old, but she has so much responsibility. It's made her mature faster. Though, as you and I both know, being an adult isn't a switch you turn on one day and everything is different. This episode is a 7/10 for me. It would be higher, but then they can't all be the season's best, can they?

The Ginger Historian

The kid was up so late because his mother was late picking him up. She likely has a job that can make her work late at the last minute and doesn't have anyone else readily available to pick him up. Also, depending on the time of year, it could be that dark as early as 5:30 p.m.

RavenLord

To clarify about the ending, I'm 99.9% certain that it wasn't Ford who came out of the grave as Vampire; Spike didn't turn him. They fed off him until he was dead. To make someone a Vampire, it requires draining to the point of death and *then* giving the human the Vampire's blood. Deny them the blood, they don't come back as a Vampire. That moustached Vampire came out of a nearby grave and was someone else, not Ford. The great thing about this series is that it doesn't give you the whole story at once, like with the backgrounds/history of Angel, Drusilla, and Spike. You will hear it -- or see it in flashbacks -- in small pieces at a time over the course of the series. One of the inconsistencies of the show, however, is when the Vampires feed. Sometimes the Vampire takes a quick drink, throws down the person, and the human is unconscious, like the Master with Buffy in Season 1 (though one could argue that the Master's drinking was more powerful and deeper than a regular Vamp). Other times, like we saw with Spike drinking from Chanterelle, the Vampire drinks longer but the human is still upright and conscious. They may need hospitalization depending on how much blood loss, but I have always wondered about the inconsistencies regarding the feeding, LOL. Maybe it's how deeply a Vampire drinks from the start and sometimes they like to take it slow and savor it? :p

RavenLord

Oh, Drusilla! I forgot to add about that. When the mob attacked her in Prague, they brought her to the point of final death, according to what we have heard thus far. In this lore, apparently a Vampire can be injured to such a degree that recovery takes a very long time or may never happen unless....(well, I can't say, as that would be a spoiler). So the mob was able to weaken Drusilla quite a bit. She's still just as insane as ever (driven insane prior to being embraced as a Vampire, according to Angel in this episode), but she is not as a strong as an average Vampire would be. We also know that she is much younger than Angel, which would also likely contribute to her difficulty in recovering from near-death. Vampires get more powerful as the centuries pass, as we clearly saw with the Master.

Amanda S

Yep, since it's past Halloween in this episode (so early November?), it would probably be getting dark pretty early that time of year :)

Amanda S

I always thought that was Ford at the end and that Spike was an upstanding vampire who always keeps his promises lol... But it never sat right with me, like what? Why would his parents bury him in Sunnydale instead of Los Angeles where they lived? Or do his parents not even know he's dead? Did Buffy and Giles bury him all secretive-like so he could rise from the grave to be staked? Am I supposed to think this deeply lol?

Amanda S

Jesse was turned into a vampire offscreen (I'm guessing to add to the dramatic reveal later in the episode). But the process to become a vampire was explained in the first episode when Buffy tells Giles: "To make you a vampire they have to suck your blood. And then you have to suck their blood. It's like a whole big sucking thing. Mostly they're just gonna kill you." I know this line was added for the benefit of the audience, but I'm pretty sure Giles the watcher should have already known this lol....

Giorgia M

In the Buffy Wiki, it says Ford becomes a vamp and rises at the end. I always thought Buffy and Giles buried him to put the situation to bed and that’s why they were waiting to see if he would rise. But he’s wearing a suit? Does that imply a formal funeral? Unsure, that kind of dampens the makeshift burial theory.

Giorgia M

Love this one!! I love a grey villain. I also love lies as a through line in this episode!! “Lie to me” is such a heartbreaking line. I just find chats between Giles and Buffy so powerful and they are only improving as time goes on. I love their relationship 🖤 I’d say 8/10.

Diego Zenhäusern

Not gonna lie: Buffy's delivery of the line "lie to me" got me way harder than Ford's pathetic attempts at trying to justify mass murder on his supposed friends😕

Giorgia M

Yeah, me too!!! It hits esp hard because she’s begging Giles to tell her everything will be alright even if it’s a lie, despite wanting the truth even if it was hard earlier in the episode. It makes her seem so childlike :(. I still felt for Ford in the pathetic sort of desperation he was showing trying to justify and dramatise it all. But I also appreciate Buffy calling out his attempt at justifying by getting her sympathy. I think it was important that she did that instead of just saying oh I’m sorry 😢 which would’ve felt cheap.

Garry (Not Jerry)

You know what’s funny? A funeral can take a good amount of time to plan (at least a week right?), they aren’t guaranteed to rise from the grave. (Previous episodes we’ve seen vampires rise at the morticians or during the funeral ceremony). You’d think that would happen more often. Mortician must be a pretty dangerous profession.

Garry (Not Jerry)

The ending really brings home the pointlessness of what Ford was trying to do. He wants to become a vampire so that he can live forever. And yet as soon as he rises, Buffy kills him. Because Buffy and Giles already know what Buffy was trying to tell Ford. When you become a vampire, you die, and a demon takes over your body. Remember the line: “you’re not looking at your friend, you’re looking at the thing that killed him”

Diego Zenhäusern

Definitely agree, I really liked Buffy's reaction to the revelation!