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Buffy Fridays! Season 2 Episode 11 First Time Reaction! (Patreon)

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2023-02-03 18:37:00
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My... GOD, I hate Ted!! Very good villain to what is a very creepy episode!

I feel like I picked up on a few clues early on, but my GOODNESS that twist got me good! XD

Love the stuff with Jenny and Rupert.  Honestly, theirs is one of my favourite story arks at the moment.

Also lovely to see more of the mother here! Feels like it has been a while!

Be sure to give me your review of this episode below!

As always, if you check this out soon after it is posted, you may need to download the video first instead of stream it.  This should be fixed in a couple of hours!

Love you, guys!  Have a great weekend!

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Comments

The Ginger Historian

Oh wow, I totally forgot the Ted episode was coming up! Amazing performance by John Ritter, but yeah… all the more disturbing for that.

The Ginger Historian

When Buffy said she should never have hit him like that, she didn't mean she shouldn't have hit him at all. She meant she shouldn't have hit him with wall shaking strength and then continued to wail on him when he wasn't even able to fight back anymore. Whether or not he deserved it, it's not the "honorable" way to handle the situation as she understood it (i.e., human, not robot). Still debatable, but I don't think anyone was trying to say she should never have fought back at all.

RavenLord

I've watched Buffy with another reactor and am currently watching with yet another who is on Season 4, but you are without a doubt the most enjoyable reactor I've seen with Buffy! Your reaction to Ted tumbling down the stairs and Joyce saying that he's dead and Buffy killed him...was priceless. I'm quite enjoying your insights and predictions, but really it's your reactions and also enjoyment of this beloved series that is truly brilliant to watch. John Ritter has been a favorite actor of mine since I was a bitty child and my parents allowed me to stay up past my bedtime to watch the old TV sitcom Three's Company with him playing the iconic Jack Tripper. R.I.P., Mr. Ritter, you are missed.

RavenLord

Captain & Tenille were two people, an American pop rock (?) duo back in the 1970s. I never listened to them myself and have no idea if I've even heard any of their songs, as my older siblings didn't have their records. I'm actually a little surprised they were referenced in a 1990s show, as they weren't really a household name by then. I don't think so? They were famous in their own era, though. Likely Xander and Willow knew of them through their parents.

The Ginger Historian

I’m pretty sure you’re right. I knew who they were in the 90s only because my mom had one of their songs on an oldies compilation disc. Never would have known otherwise. It’s one of those groups that has a couple of well known things… like if you hear a bit of one, you’re like “oh yeah, I know that song…” but that’s about it.

Garry (Not Jerry)

Hey Veggie, I have to strongly disagree with your disagreement with Buffy. "Self defence" does not give you the right to beat the crap out of someone, just because they hit you first. Buffy had the power. She could have tried to immobilise him, instead she used it as an excuse to wail on him ( i.e. she says "I was so hoping you would do that"). Her actions were in revenge, not self defence. Sorry - I didn't mean to get so preachy - I absolutely loved the video, and I can't wait for more. I guess your comment just struck a nerve.

VeggieGamer

Honestly Garry, you make a fantastic point. I would say my judgement of the situation is probably clouded by the fact this is brand new to me and I frickin' hate manipulation like which is portrayed in this episode. Also it isn't like Buffy was 100% in control from the second she snapped (Ted knocked her to the ground even after her quip). Also, I don't know if this is me being unintentionally bias, but I don't like the idea of a grown man slapping a teenager like this. Definitely need to address this in my next intro, having time to process what exactly happened. That being said... he turned out to be a robot, so in a way I was right! XD ( ONLY JOKING!!)

VeggieGamer

Hi guys! Seeing some excellent comments about if what Buffy did was right or not when it came to beating on Ted. This is definitely something we will discuss at the start of the next ep! Honestly, I think as this is the first time I saw this episode and it is all very raw to me, I may have misjudged my comments on what was right and wrong. To be honest, the manipulation and gaslighting definitely got to me, so my inital take on what Buffy did my have been clouded. Love the fact this show can make us think about these things on such a deeper level! Great episode and great villain!

Garry (Not Jerry)

I 100% agree with you about the grown man slapping the teenager, that was despicable. I think Buffy just lost her temper and things got out of control. Honestly if the episode had ended with that twist it would have been great. The fact that Joss Whedon switches it up again at the end, it's like he's toying with your emotions!

Inseriousity

Haha oh my god, I've watched Buffy so many times and just assumed it was a star trek thing like veggie did

Frederique Gillespie

Yes, you totally spotted the food thing immediately. But then you've always been super observant. It's part of why it's so fun to watch your reactions. Captain & Tennille were an American pop duo from the 1970s. I'm not sure Willow and Xander were old enough to be that familiar with them, but the show's writers would have been. Buffy's mother is Joyce, When this originally aired, I wasn't much older than the characters. So I mostly knew John Ritter (RIP) as a very goofy comedian from sitcoms and silly movie comedies. (He apparently had solid dramatic roles as well, but in movies I was never allowed to watch, so I didn't realize.) Anyway, as you can imagine, I was so very creeped out to see him as Ted. It was jarring. And I'm with you brother. Xander and Cordelia's animosity in Season 2 was very much of the "pulling the pigtails of the girl you like" sort. Xander, particularly, is immature enough that it was clear to me there was something there... 7.5/10 episode for me

Amanda S

Yea, watching this as a kid around the actors ages, I definitely didn't know who they were talking about until I looked it up, but then again, my parents didn't listen to them, so that's why. I agree with RavenLord that Xander and Willow probably learned about the band from their parents.

The Ginger Historian

Totally understandable! I appreciate your outrage at the manipulation and gaslighting. They are definitely some of the most infuriating elements of this episode.

Saiyasha

You can make a note of the fashion that Buffy wears here. Whenever she feels she is in the wrong or feels small she tends to wear clthes that are more childlike, like the blue suspender pants after Teds death. It shows how inside she sometimes still feels like a little girl that doesn't know how the world works

Saiyasha

Yes, Buffy _does_ deserve to fight back, but what ted did did not fall under killable offense. If Buffy would be able to decide that her killing one human didn't matter in the grand scheme, she wouldn't be buffy. If any other woman had done this, it would still be treate as manslaughter. It may have been justified, it may have been an accident, but the end result is a dead humen (usually) and a court of law cannot and must not overlook that. Manslaughter isn't the same as murder and there would be possible mitigating circumstances, but right now, the police is treating this as a possible homicide and that is their right.

Zoo

I don't think you were that far off though, Veggie. Ted "died" from falling down the stairs during the fight, not from Buffy bludgeoning him to death or anything. Also, she might be the slayer, but she is still a minor and that matters quite a bit in this instance imo. Not saying she, as the slayer, have a right to kill or assault people but imo some are giving way too much weight to her "I so hoped you'd do that" comment.

Q

I always forget how interesting this episode is! It's a tricky situation morally. Buffy absolutely had the right to defend herself. Regardless of her slayer powers, she has the right to that. But like the others were saying later, she can't be above the law. Once the situation moved beyond self defense, she has to pull back. And I think it's a very forgivable offense in this case to go too far given the circumstances (Ted threatened her, manipulated and gaslit and drugged her friends and family, and then actually hit her. Hard to blame her for lashing out), but forgivable doesn't necessarily mean right. She could have stopped attacking and restrained him or otherwise incapacitated him. Forgiveness is a big theme this season and we're seeing it with Giles and Jenny this episode too. There's also the fact that Buffy, while she did intentionally hurt Ted, did not mean to kill him. Intention matters, context matters, and I think it's also important to note that the villain of this episode was a robot who did not consider those things. It was an accident that she killed him, but she still did, and the fact that she is willing to take responsibility for her actions leading up to the accident speaks very highly of her.

Frederique Gillespie

I liked your comments, personally. Ted was heinous and clearly never met a woman who could fight back. Killing someone in self-defense is not acceptable under the law, but (1) this is a TV show with vampires in it and (2) we are still, in 2023, struggling mightily to adequately address domestic violence. So I am more ready than some to cut Buffy a lot of slack here.

Garry (Not Jerry)

On a separate note, this episode is fun on re-watching, because you notice some hints are given throughout. Like Ted saying “I’m not wired that way”, or his work colleague calling him a “machine”.

Shiby23

At the start i realized dood def was feeding people pot cookies/edibles. You picked up on him being a bot welllll before i even thought about it. Dude gave willow electronics super fast too. That episode aged pretty friggen well

The Ginger Historian

Killing someone in self-defense is acceptable under the law though. They just have to be actively trying to kill you, not just fighting you.

Garfnob

"Psychologists use the term “gaslighting” to refer to a specific type of manipulation where the manipulator is trying to get someone else (or a group of people) to question their own reality, memory or perceptions." how does this qualify? when did Ted try to get anyone to "question their own reality...."? yes, there was manipulation and i would classify it as an abusive relationship. not all manipulation is gaslighting. i find the term gaslighting being over used and it lesions the severity in peoples minds when they hear a bout a case of real gaslighting. sorry for the rant.

Elisa

Let's give it up for Sunnydale - despite being on a Hellmouth and having an astronomical death count, it has produced some top tier geniuses. First, we have Chris and Eric, who resurrected a dead body through science, and now we have Ted, who produced an extremely realistic robot back in the 1950's. We'll have a few more down the line, and Willow's no slouch either. Maybe the Hellmouth has a little extra something...

Elizabeth Rose

Chiming in late on this one (I just stumbled across Veggie's youtube and joined the Patreon) to say, I love Ted's co-worker that Buffy talks to! Such a great one-scene character performance, he's funny, he's charming, he's such a clear character. Plus, that actor was also Mott, the Enterprise barber on Star Trek TNG! :D Also, speaking of 'herbs'.... I randomly did some research on the pronunciation of that word a few years ago. Of all things, I was in a play where my character was a mid-19th-century Irish-Canadian woman, and I came to the word 'herbs' in one of my lines and was truly baffled as to whether her accent would pronounce the H or not, lol. From what I read, it would seem that the H was always silent, in any country, until the late 19th century. Around that time, English society got especially concerned with accents as indicators of social status, and upper class English people started pronouncing the formerly-silent H in 'herbs,' just to make sure they couldn't possibly be mistaken for dropping their H's and sounding lower class! Over time, that ended up becoming the more common pronunciation in England, while North America generally kept the H silent :)

SK Elkins

Hee! I'm such a dreadful pedant that I came over here just to tell the tale of why the English dropped the 'h' from 'herb,' but you beat me to it! Yes, it originally followed the same 'silent h' rule as other words that came into English from the French, like 'hour,' 'heir' and 'heirloom,' 'honour,' etc.

Todd Bolton

I grew up in the 60s and my best friend and I loved 50’s bands. So Xander and Willow were certainly “old enough” to know C&T. The writers, however, did make a joke of it with that culture-free environment comment.

Todd Bolton

One of the best comments I've read about this situation.

Todd Bolton

I have to strongly disagree with your take that Buffy’s actions were justified. Obviously she didn’t mean to kill him, and when she said “I was so hoping you’d do that”, it doesn’t mean she had been planning to do this, but it did show that her emotions were not in check. When you say that you “wanted him to get his head kicked in” at the golf course, I wonder if you really mean it. I doubt you’d respect Buffy or the show, if she took that opportunity to beat the crap out of him. Anyway, in the moment before she apparently kills a human being, she hits him five times unanswered, driving him down the hall, toward the steps, as she does. As the slayer, it’s like a professional boxer who is treated with assault with a deadly weapon if they hit somebody outside the ring. If Buffy’s actions are excused (I don’t mean sympathized with, like with Ford, in “Lie to Me”, who I do not think should be sympathized with – Buffy should be), then the episode loses a lot of its dramatic impact. “That only works in six-year-old court”. (Great line of Buffy’s.) Xander and Willow were not affected by the cookies when they said that Buffy shouldn’t have special privileges of violence. When Xander does eat a cookie he changes back into pliant Xander. This episode was “as if” Buffy had killed a human. Her reaction is so very different from the one next season, when a slayer kills a human. Great reaction, nevertheless. Good catch that “resurrected” Ted has a reflection, thus cannot be a vampire. I had never noticed it before. And you picked up on the food thing quite early.