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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Prisoner of Azkaban Chapters 8, 9 & 10! (Patreon)

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Hi guys!  Here is the next part of the Harry Potter Book Review! And YES, it is another 4 hours long! XD

I'll put my hands up straight away and say, I make some mistakes in this one!  Thankfully, most of them are corrected by you guys in the Book Club! For some reason, I thought the 'cloud grim' WAS in the book! O_o  Also, I got completely bamboozled by "Fidelius" in the book club section, thinking it was a name of a character! Again, by the end of the video I realise I was being a schmuck!

So sorry about the mistakes, guys!  I think they are always going to happen here or there, but I wanted to own up to these two straight away! No doubt there are more in the 4 hours of this episode! XD

Enjoy and hope you are having a great weekend!!

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Movie Watcher Reads Harry Potter For the First Time! - Prisoner of Azkaban Chapters 8, 9 & 10!

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Comments

Jake M

I do hope these are as fun to record as they are to watch! 😅

Annette Elliott

I love the book to movie comparisons. In the movies they don't show or mention any of the protective enchantments on Hogwarts until the last few movies leading people to believe that Hogwarts has no security measures. Lupin had no control over what Neville's bogart turns into. All he can do is think of a way to make it funny to get rid of it.

Raider Max

*cracks knuckes* *inserts earbuds* LETS DO THIS!

Lydia57

Totally made my day waking up to this ~ grabs headphones 🎧❤️ thanks Veggie and everyone else.

Dara Jeeling

what a great way to end my free saturday! Thank you

Emiel Callaars

Ravenclaw - woohoo a new one, And in the beginning: It was getting a kelpie out of a well

VeggieGamer

Yeah sorry, Annette! I worded this really badly. What I mean is, if a student said a professor was the thing they feared the most, in Lupin probably should ask for a different volunteer. I am talking very real world teaching, though XD

Louisa Lockley

Oh my goodness thank you veggie, this is just what I need for my night shift tonight 😊

S1lm4r1l

Haven't actually been sorted. (Prefer not to know.) Lockhart was offering Hagrid advice on how to get Kelpies out of a well. We get to see both Kelpies and Kappas in the Fantastic Beasts films. You're right to be worried about Filch, he's the only person in Hogwarts that can't do Magic besides Hagrid, and he spends most of his time outside the castle itself. The Dungeons were probably the least likely place Black would be found in, they're the deepest and the hardest to access, from memory there's very few ways into and out of the dungeons. So it was probably the safest place to send Filch. You'll get more of the "Dementors seeming more human-esque than they're depicted in the films" in the future. That Knight is Paul Whitehouse!? No ****ing way! That's bonkers. Death of Stalin is great, didn't expect to hear a recommendation for that on here. Because of Malfoy's influence and money, Slytherin are able to get the schedule re-ordered to their liking. Harry never asks for this because its extremely underhanded and he doesn't have the clout that Malfoy does (or at least, that's implied.) Remember, Malfoy's frequently able to get away with stuff and he literally bought his way onto the team last year. Was also not expecting Hufflepuff smack-talk either! :D I don't think Harry expected there would be a replay, (although if both Seekers are knocked out, you'd presume there would have to be,) but he was just clinging to hope that he hadn't lost. He was desperately looking for any chance that they hadn't lost. There are 6 games throughout the year. G vs. S. G vs. R. G vs. H. S vs. R. S vs. H. R vs. H The points scored in each match get added to a total for the team. So say Gryffindor score 50, 180, 290 they'd finish on 520. Whichever team gets the most points wins the cup. The points are added to the House totals for the house cup that the golden Trio helped Gryffindor win in year 1 and 2. Sirius's motorbike has a very interesting and nuanced origin. But that's for later books. Interesting that you think James had an inherent mistrust of Dumbledore, especially when everyone else seems to trust him completely. Harry himself comments that "You couldn't help trusting Dumbledore." I always thought Dumbledore let them know about the supposed traitor and suggested the Fidelius charm before James and Lily went into hiding. But maybe they'd already decided on using it with Black as Secret Keeper.

Rebecca May

Gryffindor here 😊 Don't hate me lol Regarding the Defense Against the Dark Arts classes, I think they're only particularly focused on magical beasts during the year that Lupin is teaching... In any case, I imagine that Care of Magical Creatures is more concerned with looking after or learning about benevolent creatures, while DADA is specifically focused on defending against dangerous and predatory creatures. Also, thank you so much for being so fair and balanced in your assessment and opinions of all the characters. I really appreciate it. That being said, given that magical potions (particularly the one Snape makes for Lupin) are so very complicated, I really wouldn't be surprised if adding another ingredient, like sugar, would render it useless. Just my two cents. 😊 Thanks for another lovely video Veggie, I really needed this today.

Hawwah

RAVENCLAW Hi Veggie! I was very glad when you said that what Lupin did in the boggart lesson was unprofessional. I absolutely agree. Mocking another teacher in front of the students and undermining his autority is a low blow and I'm not saying that just because Severus Snape is my favorite character. But there's even more to that. I won't spoil anything, but a lot happened between Lupin and Snape in the past and when we get to it (in book 5), you'll see that what Lupin did in the boggart lesson was actually very cruel. You said that Snape was also unprofessional in his DADA lesson and that’s a fair point. However, I would like to point out that Lupin started it and Severus merely retaliated. I think it was his way of telling Lupin "I can play dirty too, you know". Also, what Lupin did in the boggart lesson was imho much worse than Severus' remarks that Lupin was unorganized and too lenient with grading. When I was re-reading chapter 9 after some time, I was sincerely surprised how lenient Professor Snape actually was with the class. Several students spoke without permission and he didn't punish them at all. He punished Hermione only after she did it for the THIRD time (I know he says "this is the second time", but it’s actually the third. His mistake or JKR's?). And he took mere 5 points from her, so I really don't think he was unreasonably strict to her.

Will

Slytherin ! What you said about irl Slytherins being prideful is absolutely correct. I love being a Slytherin, no matter how terrible representation we get. When I was a kid and I first read these books I for sure thought I'd be a gryffindor but as I got older and actually did the pottermore test and got Slytherin, I've been very prideful about it. Unfortunaly I also have a bad experience about being a Slytherin irl. I visited the potter studios in the UK in 2018 and there when we got in, the tour announcer asked if anyone was a Slytherin and me and some others there raised our hands, and the announcer said, jokinly, "well then I have to ask you slytherins to leave" or something like that, and I got that it was a joke, but it still made me feel bad about being in the "evil" house.

Q

Ravenclaw! I think Harry asks about having a rematch partly because he is confused and disoriented and partly because unlike other matches' injuries and such, in this case there was outside interference in the form of dementors. But Hufflepuff would have won anyway, you're right. The Harry and Lupin conversation in the movie is beautiful, but I am, shall we say, nitpicky about these things, and it does annoy me! Specifically, it annoys me that movie Lupin talks so much about Lily and so little about James. We get it, movies, you hate giving James actual characterization and love emphasizing how angelic Lily was (which also isn't actual characterization btw). Hermione is frequently logical to the point of being tactless, and she has a lot of difficulty admitting to being wrong about anything. It's one of the flaws of hers that I love most, and it's a point where Ron often balances her out. Hermione is great at keeping Harry safe and pointing out logical fallacies. Ron is more in tune with Harry's (and Hermione's) emotional needs. Both of them can be stubborn and self-righteous about their respective insights. I'm typing this as I watch the end of the video, and you keep mentioning how tired you get. Have you thought of splitting up recording sessions? Don't know why I'm trying to make suggestions since I've never done anything like this myself, but thought I'd try? Whatever works best for you! I'm loving your reactions to the other Gryffindors when they pop up too. Dean is great in these chapters. He's consistently mentioned as being very good at drawing or good with a quill, so he was offering to straight-up forge the signature without spells. Quidditch is so important to Harry, and while I can understand showing a little less of it in the movies, it annoys me because it's just such an important part of his character and Ron's! They're a couple of jocks with Hermione their nerd best friend lol.

Josh Z

Gryffindor You mentioned that the end of the Fantastic Beasts made you think of Hermione's parents, I feel compelled to mention that DH1 Movie got something horribly wrong. Memory modification is not the same thing as the oblivate spell that Lockheart attempts to use on Harry and Ron, he was trying to erase their memory entirely to save his reputation. Memory modification is also a memory charm, like oblivate, but as far as I'm aware it doesn't have an incantation and as the name implies it only modifies one's memory with the witch or wizard being able to plant false memories when done correctly. Hermione only modifies her parent's memory (which could be reversed at her discretion after the war) she did not permanently make them forget about her. I just wanted to make sure that you are correctly informed because the movies REALLY DROPPED the ball here.

Frederique Gillespie

Gryffindor (not sure how, if I'm honest) Harry is an unreliable narrator and has biases, for sure. But if you trust him to be honest when he is unsure of how to interpret some of the things he sees, you should be able to trust his dislike of Snape. Yes, Harry is 13 and not the greatest thinker of our times. Snape was never going to try and kill Lupin, for example. But threatening Lupin's ability to keep one of the few jobs he's been able to have (hence shabby clothes, etc.) by trying to sway Dumbledore or revealing said condition to the students through the essay is not the action of a dispassionate colleague. You may think Snape was trying to prepare the students to defend themselves, and there may be some truth to that, but Snape's personality is not that of an adult who's moved on from past events. Freddie

Embran

Ravenclaw (intelligence, craving of studying and gathering info) I hate to say but as far as I know Draco's relation to Dobby never explored. Likely dismissive but maybe not as physically abusive as his dad. I think similar to how Sirius treats Kreacher. Though a kid can be cruel, so could have flung things at Dobby. Regarding Filch I think he has some magical repairing kit like the one Harry has for his Broom. Either confiscated from a student or (more likely) given to him by Dumbledore. After all in Headmaster interest the paintings repaired ASAP and when he or teachers too busy it falls on Filch to do this so he needs a ready-to-use magical prop. IMO Neville by far the tastiest to the Dementors. Even though Lupin claimed Harry encountered things other students can hardly imagine, Neville has Harry beat by a long mile. Why? Harry has as you mentioned a lingering memory of Voldemort killing his mom. That's the trauma. Neville has to deal with his parents turned insane by Bellatrix his entire life! The Dursleys neglect don't nearly enough fill up that gap! In later book you actually will read about meeting Neville's parents, not just Neville present, but also Harry, Ron and Hermione! At first glance Luna's casual reply regarding her blown up mother seems awkward and analyzing it just denial but you can't deny maturity she frankly always has. Even in Malfoy mansion nothing got to her (even though I admit she never in serie tortured like Hermione or Harry) but all in all that aloofness or better yet levelheadedness, positivity and strong will makes me think the Dementors wouldn't be much enticed by her.

Dara Jeeling

As always - proud Slytherpuff ( I explaied that before - if doing the quiz correctly I am a Hufflepuff, but even before we could get oficially sorted I was sure I wanted to be a Slythein [like when fan pages strted tocome up all the "kids" were like "I am a Gryffindor" and I was like - no thank you! I have been able to get sorted into Slytherin ever time I take the quiz.) That said - you said we Slytherins are proud - and we have to be. The book sort of do not give a truly positive Slytherin (Umbridge, Skeeter, Voldemort, Bellatrix - all the Malfoys... Even in the books all the Slytheirn students are described as hideous looking, stupid not good at magic (Crabbe and Goyle) and so on. Slughorn is sort of the only not that bad Slytherin - but he is still unpleasant, biased and tactless. And Snape in the end does turn out to be all bad, but he is such a flawed character that heis hardly a role model). That's the thing if you get ONE house that is specifically written for the obvious "BAD" persons. (although each house produced dark witches and wizards - Quirrel was a Ravenclas, Zaccariah Smith is unpleasant - you will see, once you meet him - hell even Gryffindor had Pettigrew ~ however he came to be a Gryffindor at first - no idea.) That is one of the things I like less and less the older I get (and I was already "old" when the books came out). I understand Voldemort needed a Hogwrts house, but I guess he could also have been Ravenclaw, given how intelligent he is - so it would have been great to sort of make sure not all bad is sort of connected to one house. @Will I hope one of the little tourguides does that during my tour this year - I can already tell you he/she is not prepared for my sarcastic comment, hichever house they are in! @Veggie there are some people who sort of have done covers from other peoples point of view - my favorite being the "Severus Saoe and..." series 1) Severus Snape and the two faced Riddle 2) Severus Snape and the first time Potter learned Expelliarmus 3) Severus Snape and the Wolf, Rat and Dog 4) Severus Snape and the Potion store theft and so on... there is also one from Draco s point of view 1) Draco Malfoy and the refused handshake also I always thought Quidditch is such an unbalanced game - giving to many points in regard to the house coup and such... I have to agree with some things people have said - especally about the story being told from Harry s point of view. Snape seems to be unpleasant, especially towards Gryffindor from what we got told. So I can get why Harry is suspicious of Snape - even after he got told by Dumbledore that Snape is to be trusted. I think acrions speak louder then words and action wise Harry never sees anything good from Professor Snape. (that being said - I was sure Snape is not all bad even in the first book - to bvious it had to be him and afterwards Rowling never had me fooled with Snape again.) Even though he is my favorite character - or should I say the best written one - I can see he is unpleasant, needs therapy badly - is in dire need of affection - and is a not the best teacher (probably never wanted to be one - he would have made a great potioneer, just inventing potions) - since he is biased, angry and for sure has something like PSD (I wager). He is also a very powefull, skilled wizard and is willing to put himself into harms way for "the greater good" and a very flawed idea of love. For me as an older reader - most of the professors had an especial appeal. Sunday morning 7 a.m. and I am rambling XD I told you that before - I usually really love seeing other peoples points of view and even reread to find those little snippets I missed.

Frederique Gillespie

Not arguing your point about Neville at all, but my mind immediately went to Dumbledore. I didn't bring it up to avoid spoilers, but Dumbledore's got tragedy in his past (like Harry, Neville, Luna and probaby others). But, unlike the others, he also has guilt. I wonder if that wouldn't up the appeal for the Dementors, Again, this is not to to argue the point you made about Neville, because it was a good point, well made.

Florian

Hufflepuff. On the Marauders Map question. We know the map can communicate, it probably could reveal its secrets to people it thinks are worthy. There is another Pub there, but it is way more shady.

Lisette C.

Gryfferin! I have taken the test a couple of times over the last 15 years and I have gotten Gryffindor twice and Slytherin twice *shrugs* You mention Hermione tearing up a couple of times and how it differs to Movie-Hermione. I honestly love how Book-Hermione was depicted in PoA. Remember that by now it is almost Christmas, so she has been struggling with almost a double-schedule for five months. And she can't really go to lunch and dinner twice a day (as there would be two of her in the room) - let alone sleep twice a day. She would have to be feeling overburdened at this point which makes feelings run amok for sure :) Amazing reaction as always, Veggie <3

Garry (Not Jerry)

I don't know if it's just points. If a team wins all their matches but not the most points overalll, I think they would still win the cup. no?

Garry (Not Jerry)

With regards to "being told from Harry's points of view" - I don't see it that way. Yes, we usually tend to follow Harry around (not always..) almost like following him around with a camera. But Harry is not the narrator - the descriptions are not Harry's descriptions, unless it specifically says "Harry thought that..." or "he looked to Harry like..." or similar.

S1lm4r1l

I don't think so. At least, that's not how we're given to understand it works. In this book each team loses at least 1 match, but Gryffindor still win the cup.

Garry (Not Jerry)

..because they won 2/3 matches and another team also won 2/3 matches, so it goes to points. But if a team wins 3 matches, that means that no other team could have won 3 matches, they automatically win, regardless of points. That's how I presumed it worked, anyway.

Loveinthehat

Yes thank you, it may be kind of Harry’s perspective but people use that as en excuse sometimes to make it seem like he’s lying. Snape is being nasty and is smiling when horrible stuff happens, Harry wouldn’t lie about that. Yes Harry got stuff wrong but it’s his assumptions that he made from what he’s seen that’s wrong, not what he’s seeing happening at the moment. He won’t describe an action that’s not actually happening and you can usually tell while reading when Harry is wrong

Loveinthehat

Slytherin! I agree with what you said about how Peter Pettigrew was described, making it seem like he’s a complete outsider who follows the others around is so one dimensional. Like the marauders were all friend for like 10 years before everything went wrong. Peter was part of the group, he helped with the map and became an animagus and they had that trust in Peter which made him able to sell out James and Lily in the first place. Making him seem like a tag on is dull, because it makes you think why would they be friends in the first place? Especially to that extent. I don’t know I feel like it would be more interesting so see him more part of the group, it makes things even worse that he would betray like that if he was a proper part of the group. like I want to know how Peter actually feels about it. Did he actually see them as friends? Surely after all these years he must have? Does he ever feel guilty about it? He just seems so one dimensional to me I can’t imagine them beings friends. I can imagine Remus being friends with him, but I don’t think people like James and Sirius would put up with someone that long and trust him so much if he just tagged along and that was it. I’m not going to say more about it to prove why because there’s more stuff later, but Snape teaching the class about werewolves was definitely to out Remus as one. That is his goal while doing that because he wants people to notice

Hawwah

@ Dara Harry never sees Professor Snape do anything good? I beg to differ. PS - Harry learns that Professor Snape worked tirelessly to protect the stone the whole year, went after the villain, saved Harry's life and made himself unpopular when he volunteered to referee another quidditch match to make sure nothing bad happened to Harry this time. CoS - Harry sees Professor Snape immediately administering help to hurt students. He sees him visibly upset when he learns about Ginny's presumed death. He sees him going against Lockhart and the rest of the teachers backing him up. I would say at this point of the story Harry has enough proof Professor Snape is a good person, even if an unpleasant one.

Hawwah

@Garry I'm sorry, but I have to disagree again. Take the Yule Ball scene from GoF. Quote: "Krum was (...) accompanied by a pretty girl (...) Harry didn't know." That’s clearly Harry's point of view. If it was from the point of view of an all-knowing narrator, it would say "Krum was accompanied by a pretty girl. It was Hermione, but Harry didn't recognize her." Also, we only ever get Harry's thoughts and inner dialog, but never the other characters'.

Michelle Linardis

Gryffindor here, and proud of it =) I always love watching your in-depth reviews, along with your thoughts and interpretations. I really do appreciate you looking at other teachers in regard to their actions, and not just zeroing in on a particular one. And I also very much appreciate your understanding that we do see these events unfold from Harry’s POV, and we already know him to guess incorrectly with his assumptions. Removing that kind of bias and analysing characters without that lens, is the best way to go. I’d like to add that Snape’s punishments are reasonable, given what generally causes them. Especially Ron and Harry being a little too cocky and outspoken, and in my personal opinion, Hermione often does call out of turn, which I do find – if I was her peer – rather rude. Snape knows she knows the answer, and he knows she parrots the textbook. Perhaps he just wants to hear from someone else. That's just my personal opinion on this. As with the werewolf thing with Snape and Lupin - there is actually a lot more to this, which you will find out a little later in this book. So as much as I’d like to go into it and answer your concerns, you’ll find out eventually. Something the film fails to also mention. And to add, I see Snape’s DADA takeover as a way to protect the students and educate them on being able to recognise a creature, despite the human side, is still a dark creature on the other. Despite his condescending and antagonistic behavior at times, he does take the safety of his students very seriously. I love your film comparisons and your thoughts on the differences/additions! I hope you keep it up. Always enjoy your videos and discussions, and can't wait for more juicy information to be available to you throughout the remainder of this book! Much love, always, from Australia

Janie

Gryffindor! I agree with you about Quidditch being the least interesting part of the books. I still like it and I love Lee Jordan's commentaries but I'd be quite happy if the matches were described in one sentence or a paragraph at most. Also, please keep comparing the books vs movies. It's kind of inevitable, especially in later books when there are quite a lot of differences. Loved the video and I can't wait for the next one!

Dara Jeeling

He sees ist, but does he undertand? I think the whole Snape/Harry/James situation is so messed up that up util the end of Deathly Hallows all Harry sees is Snape bein nasty. but that's just my personal thinking.

Dara Jeeling

I do not think Harry is lyig - I thnk that ot cna be hard to see something unbiased after a time. You expect to see something in a special light/from a special point of view) and you will find evidence for it. I just think the whol situation with Snape/James/Harry is pretty messed up even before Harry excisted.

Jacqueline Chaiton

Hufflepuff ❤️ There is at least one other pub in Hogsmeade, Hagrid mentions it in Stone. It’s called the Hog’s Head. It’s not particularly kid friendly, but that’s all I’ll say on that. Also - Ginny. The Dementors would definitely choose her as a target as we saw a bit of on the train.

Katik

Ravenclaw, Loving the reviews! I think the Quidditch tournament scoring makes sense (even if the individual game scoring might not!) - each house plays each other house once during the year. This means only six games. They are first evaluated on number of wins only, but given how few teams there are and how few games are played, the chances of two or three teams tying for the first place is exactly 50:50 - so like in any other competition there has to be another deciding factor which means either points difference, or the actual points scored, to decide the tie. I love how the discussion Gryffindors were having at Harry's bedside about who has to win/lose by how many points is a very accurate representation of the combinations arithmetic sport fans go through every time on similar occasions, like group stages of the Football World Cup for example (only 4 teams in each Group, playing each other only once - so apart from wins it often comes down to goal difference). On the Lupin conversation with Harry in the movie and the comparison to the one in the book: I admit on its own it is a beautiful scene in the movie but within the context of the story I don't think it made sense for Lupin to be talking about James or Lily. Remember quite soon after that we learn (together with Harry) about the connection between Sirius and James and also Pettigrew in The Three Broomstics. In that conversation between teachers / Minister / Rosmerta it would be only logical of the characters once talking about three members of this friends group to mention that oh yea, byt the way, the fourth one just started teaching at Hogwarts. So it follows it was the author's choice for them to not mention Lupin as a part of this group, and that choice had a clear purpose. For this very same reason Lupin is not going to say anything about knowing Lily and James to Harry at this stage - not because of the character's internal logic, but for the story to work. Simply because for both us readers and Harry as well it is supposed to be a surprise when Lupin's connection is revealed. Because connection to James means connection to Sirius after what we hear in the Three Broomsticks! And we're not supposed to know that now to get the full benefit of all the great reveals in this book. I guess the film has just barely gotten away with that as the Three Broomsticks scene is very brief and the explanation is nowhere as detailed as in the book, so many viewers would not make the connection. I might have said in the beginning it's a beautiful scene in the movie but I'm gonna contradict myself now - it feels a bit artificially contrived to be a tear-jerker with cheap Hollywood tricks (like talking about a dead loved one with emotive music and beautiful scenery). Ok, that might be a bit harsh of me, and I don't argue with anyone who actually likes that scene, I just don't think it was the right place in the story to have this conversation. But the scenery IS beautiful, I have to agree on that :D

Ziro the Hutt

Gryffindor!! Hagrid might be pretty juicy to Dementors at this time as well. One parent abandoned him, the other died when he went to Hogwarts and he had to fend for himself. The Chamber Of Secrets and his expulsion would be another trauma in his background and perhaps a deep down feeling of not being a true wizard; and then his loss of confidence and worry about Buckbeak this term. And its only natural Ravenclaw "smash" Hufflepuff, they are "a bunch of duffers" after all. ;)

Ziro the Hutt

Yeah I'm a Gryffindor as well, and a complete wuss! :D

Preetam Ozarde

Not that it is a comparison or anything but don't you think it's a bit different for Harry than it is for Neville? I mean Neville's parents weren't tortured in front of him. He likely has no memories of them. So there wasn't any specific memory to bring out to make him relive his trauma. He was brought up completely by his grandmother and he loves his grandmother even though she is too strict at times. I think the author makes it pretty clear during the dementor scene on the train. Harry is affected the worst as he passes out. And Ginny was shaking like mad and looked almost as bad as Harry felt. So they were both affected more than Neville. Also, one encounter with the dementor makes it turn into Harry's greatest fear instead of Voldemort while Neville's is Snape. I'm not saying what Neville went through wasn't just as bad as Harry but JKR makes it pretty clear through her writing that Harry and Ginny are affected worse than Neville.

Jacob sparks

For the quidditch it house plays the other house once. As in each team plays 3 games. The team that wins the most games wins the cup. If teams have the same amount of wins then it's the team who has the largest margin of victory combined. Think goal difference in other sports.

itsanursething

Fellow Hufflepuff here! Another great video Veggie! I'm sorry you get so tired doing these long videos. Maybe split the filming up a little? Like, film your chapter notes on one day and then film the book club comments on another? Just a suggestion! You don't have to do it, I just don't want you to find these book clubs become a chore :) Can't wait for the next three chapters! Lots of new stuff coming up!

Methanoutput

Ravenclaw Really enjoyed this one Veggie. I just wanted to say, that its no reason to apologize, if you understand something wrong. These books are really long and most of us have listened/read them dozens of times. So for you reading the first time, its just natural that you just can't consume everything one time and perfectly get everything!

Annette Elliott

Home school is the answer to how young wizards learn reading and writing.

Hawwah

@Frederique You say that Veggie should trust Harry. But Veggie already knows Harry is mistaken about Snape. And considering that Harry trusted Quirrell, Lockhart and Riddle, I don’t think trusting Harry's judgment is a very good idea.

Frederique Gillespie

Yes, that's essentially what I was trying to say. It makes no sense to not trust him only sometimes,

jensson

Hufflepuff or Gryffindor Regarding the paintings I always take it that a portrait can be of anyone, alive, dead or fictional that have been brought alive by the painter and given characteristics of the subjects. Often the subject may, while still alive, teach their portrait to make them a better representations.

jensson

Many think that wizards either become a portrait or a ghost when they die but ghosts are completely different from portraits.

Kunzite Blossom

Hufflepuff! I will say this. I can't wait for you to get to know Crookshanks more! I'm curious on how your opinion/views may change as the story progresses. The movie really leaves a lot out when it comes to Crookshanks and his story. Trelawney....she's an interesting character....I'll get more on her in another chapter. There's so much to say I rather make that a special post. Now that you mention it...what would have happened had Harry mentioned seeing the dog. Lupin would know right away it was Sirius, but still believes Sirius to be a murderer. Also, don't worry about missing out on details in the movies. I've watched them hundreds of times and I still always find something new I didn't notice. As to why Harry would question if there would be a rematch might be due to the fact he literally JUST woke up, As far as he knew he got knocked out before the snitch was caught. Which technically is true, nobody saw him fall until Cedric caught the snitch. Had the dementors not shown up Harry may not have been where he was and could have potentially caught the snitch. However we will never know. Although even Cedric wanted a rematch because he felt it unfair. I guess if he wanted a win he would want it without the enemy seeker passing out due to dementors. Something you will learn later on (and I don't think this is a spoiler, it's not necessarily a major plot point), is you need to pass an apparition test to legally apparate. Given Hagrid was expelled before he could take his test, he probably can't apparate. He may have just tried muggle transportation or even floo network. It isn't really explained HOW he got to the Potter's house or how he planned to get to the Dursleys.

Rebecca May

For me personally, one of the reasons I find that scene so moving is not only because it's such a beautiful moment for Lupin and Harry, but also particularly because of that line I mentioned in my comment - the one about Lily having "a way of seeing the beauty in others, even, and perhaps most especially, when that person could not see it in themselves." It makes me so emotional every time, because it always makes me think of Snape... How Lily saw something worthwhile in him when no-one else even cared to look. (People can crucify me in the comments all they want, but even the most avid Snape-haters can't deny Lily and Snape were friends for years.) JKR has said that watching Prisoner of Azkaban, there were a few moments that gave her chills because they seemed to be foreshadowing things we would find out in later books, even though the filmmakers had no way of knowing those things. I've always thought that this scene must have been one of those times - but of course, I could be wrong! :)

Thunderbird

Ravenclaw 💙 Great reaction as always Veggie! I had so many thoughts to to write here, but after reading through the comment section I realized most things have already been said. So I just want to add a few little things: Besides the Three Broomsticks and the Hog’s Head Inn (already mentioned in the comments) there is also Madam Puddifoot’s Café in Hogsmeade, which we will get to. Also, have you maybe thought about just doing two chapters at once in the future? I don’t mind the length because I can split up watching the video and I wouldn’t want you to go through them with less detail. In fact I love how thoroughly you go through them! But the further we get, the more differences there are going to be between books and movies and I imagine discussing them all will get very exhausting for you, especially because you’re dyslexic. Maybe this way you could also get out the reactions more often. Just a thought. 😊 And thanks to all who pointed out a sentence in my last comment that would be a spoiler, so I could take it out in time! I really appreciate it!

Hawwah

It's a beautiful quote, no doubt about that. The problem is that book Lily was nothing like that. She was cold, unempathetic, judgemental and a very bad friend to Severus.

Hawwah

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion. 2 chapters per video would imo benefit both Veggie and us commenters. I always struggle with my Book Club comment because there are so much things I would like to cover. EDIT: Sorry, this was meant as a reply to Tämi.

Rebecca May

@Hawwah Oh don't get me wrong, I have my issues with Lily, many of them. But we see very little of her first-hand (and most often when she and Severus are hitting a low point in their relationship), so I'm hesitant to judge. In any case, I do think there was a time they cared very much about each other, and that meant a lot to Severus, and it means a lot to me. Whether either of them were particularly good at showing it at various points is a different issue.

Kunzite Blossom

I really love this suggestion. I've been listening ahead and taking notes and right now in Order these chapters can be like 40 minutes long. I know some chapters in these later books get to be an hour. I definitely think as the chapters get longer, cutting down the amount of chapters would be better. Two may also help him get through it faster, since he seems to always feel bad about how long it takes.

Philipp Schäfer

About the quidditch rules about injuries and everything: I think the differnce to Harrys first year is that this was the first game so they could simply swap Slytherin with Hufflepuff. The game he missed in the first year was the very last one and I'm pretty sure Harry was only alowed to leave the hospital wing at the day of the feast so they couldn't swap it with a different game and postponing wasn't really an option either (if that is even possible in the rules, no idea).

Philipp Schäfer

About the Snape and Lupin stuff: I get what you're saying about Lupin and the boggart and he probably had better ways of handling it but it was a complicated situation. He already started with Neville and told him he could do it. If he then, after Neville told him his boggart would be Snape which he can't change, said something like "Ah nevermind, we won't take you.", it would have completely discouraged Neville. And you kinda have to ridicule the boggart to defeat him so he had to tell Neville to do something like he did. Again. I'm not saying he handled it perfectlay. There probably was a better way but it was a very complicated situation to handle.

S1lm4r1l

I don't think so. I'm 99% sure its points. If a team wins their 3 matches its incredibly unlikely any other team will be able to overhaul them in points.

S1lm4r1l

Harry's not the only unreliable character though. Snape offers a version of events in this book that is markedly different from what another character reports later on.

Frederique Gillespie

10000 times THIS No one gets it right 100% of the time. Making mistakes is part of what makes us human. For me, the fact that Snape was never going to poison Lupin is a given, just as I find it normal that 13-year-old Harry's reflex would be to try and shield his favourite professor (Lupin) from the professor who seems to loathe him (Snape). That Harry gets it wrong about the potion is of no concern whatsoever to me. I also don't fault a 13-year-old Harry for jumping to a ridiculously improbable conclusion since (1) that's what kids do and (2) he spends this whole book hearing his mother's murder whenever a Dementor gets near him. The fact that he gets it wrong doesn't make me question Harry's character. He has good instincts and, so far as I'm concerned, is more often right than he is wrong. Even if he has an obvious massive bias against Snape. His making mistakes just means he's human.

Mio

As a Hufflepuff, loved the Hufflepuff segment

itsanursething

I think Hagrid may have had a portkey. Easier travel for an infant. Maybe?

The Ginger Historian

This world is super complicated for a newcomer (even one who's seen the movies). Mistakes will be made, and we will be here to (hopefully politely) set you in the right direction.

The Ginger Historian

I get what you're saying for the most part. But I would think a bit more about saying things like "obviously if you want to ridicule a man, have him dress like a woman." It's a bit outdated.

The Ginger Historian

I do love the written summaries quite a bit, but... can we ask that any biased statements be left out? It's kind of offputting. A summary should just be a description of events. The only opinions I'm looking for (outside of the book club section) are yours.

Garry (Not Jerry)

@Hawwah hmm. I see that more of a storytelling decision (so that the reveal is a surprise to the audience) but I take your point.

Garry (Not Jerry)

Not really. All it takes is one high scoring match where both seekers can’t find the snitch for ages. In fact, the teams could just agree not to catch the snitch on purpose in order to rack up loads of points.

H

I get your point about two chapters, Tämi, but I'm not sure myself if it's a good idea since the fact that it's three chapters makes sure that we have to shorten down our comments. I think he would get more to read with two chapters (just distributed over more videos) because we would go into more detail. And I think I maybe think that it's better like now, where we have to be a bit more straight to the point. (Not completely against your idea, by the way – as I say I'm not sure!)

Kate Bogd

I always thought it's not the direct points but the point difference. If one game ends 340-400 and the other 100-160 both count as 60 point difference in either plus or minus to the corresponding teams.

Kunzite Blossom

True, but we also know McGonagle sat at Privet Drive the entire DAY. If Hagrid had a portkey I don't think the journey should have taken so long. Unless it was arranged for Harry to be taken there at night and Hagrid cared for Harry the whole day, because I doubt Harry was sat in the ruins all day till Hagrid went.

Hawwah

I always thought that the team with the biggest amount of points wins the Cup. Maybe Veggie should make a poll about this.

S1lm4r1l

> "All it takes is one high scoring match where both seekers can’t find the snitch for ages." But that's literally a strategy we see used by Ireland in the World Cup. Their entire strategy is to wrack up so many goals that the opposing seeker cannot overhaul them by catching the Snitch. Gryffindor use it in this year in order to win the cup. > "In fact, the teams could just agree not to catch the snitch on purpose in order to rack up loads of points." That would be match fixing though.

Diego Zenhäusern

I haven't finished the video yet, but your reaction to Hufflepuffs win from 1:23:20 onwards was just pure gold!!! That just made my day Veggie, never change!😂😅

Ian Graham

I do think that Harry asking if there was going to be a replay quite fair as it wasn’t so much that he lost. It was more because of the dementors being there. He didn’t know that Cedric had apparently caught the snitch as Harry had fallen from his broom. So him asking this question was pretty valid under the circumstances and from his perspective at that time.

Diego Zenhäusern

Hufflepuff I think the in-universe answer as to why none of the students use cool "force fiel wand umbrellas" would probably be that the spell is to advanced. But I'm 99% sure that the actual answer is that Rowling just hadn't thought of that back then😅 (especially since I doubt that spell would actually be all that complicated🤔)

Kunzite Blossom

I love the idea of it being advanced. But there is also the fact students technically aren't supposed to use magic outside the classrooms. Though that would stop someone like Dumbledore being able to conjure a giant one over the students watching (or even the whole thing!) Either option could be viable. However....it likely is that she hadn't thought of it. I do believe she had ideas for fantastic beasts (the whole Nagini thing HAD to be planned ahead right?) but that doesn't mean she thought of all the little details like making an umbrella with a wand.

Garry (Not Jerry)

Just thought of an “au contraire”. When Harry “doesn’t” pour the felix Felicis into Ron’s drink, the audience is led to believe that Harry did it, and it is only revealed afterwards that he never actually did. Instead of being told from Harry’s perspective, it’s told from a third party’s perspective.

Emma Ailie

2:26:40 I don't think its that weird that Filch could fix a magical painting. In Chamber we find out that photos move after being developed in the right potion. I presume its similar for paintings either a potion mixed into the paints or put on after. If its the first, someone could make up the potion/paint mix for Filch. If its the second, Filch could do a regular muggle repair on it and someone else, probably Snape or Dumbledore, can reapply the potion after if its even needed.

Saiyasha

In defense of Lupin, the only way to prevent the SnapeBoggart, would ahve been to not let Neville at it. Lupin can't control what Neville fears and he only found out after he asked Neville. If he then tells Neville that he shouldn't really go up against the Boggart if that is his fear, it may have irreparably damaged Nevilles courage, because he'd think lupin thought him to weak to deal with his fear, kind of what harrys thinks at first. This really is on Snape. He has only himself to blame for becomeing Nevilles worst fear and now he is reaping the consequences.

Katherine

Ravenclaw. Thank you for These book reviews I thoroughly enjoy listening to them. I must say i Love Slytherin and if I could have had a Harry influence I’d choose them but I also have great pride in being a Ravenclaw.

Kevin Morris

Gryffindor Sir Cadogan was in fact a Gryffindor, and (interestingly enough) a contemporary of Merlin, who was a Slytherin. I'm pretty sure we're told in supplemental materials that the two knew each other and that Sir Cadogan tried and was unsuccessful in becoming a Knight of the Round Table.

Mary

Just got to the quidditch match part and it’s my biggest pet peeve about the movie. In the movie Harry sees ‘The Grim’ in a cloud but in the books he thinks he sees the Grim as a physical dog which is later explained to have been Sirius watching him play

Budda523

Ravenclaw Just got to say, the outtakes at the end caught me off guard xD

Annabellae Priestly

Your sports bit scared the bejesus out of me LOL. I was all zoned out, listening to the video and zoned into the Sims -- then ROOOAAAR!!!! Better than a cup of coffee, I'm awake now! lol.