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Hi guys!  WHAT an episode!! Top tier definitely!! Went in a completely different way than I was expecting, and, though the ending broke my heart I am VERY excited to see what is to come with our new 'heel'.

Some of the most emotional AND funny moments so far, I can definitely see why you guys keep saying there are great episodes to come!  This was definitely one of the very best so far!

As always, if you click the link shortly after this is posted, you may need to download the video to watch.  This should be fixed in a few hours! :)

Love you, guys!  Have a great weekend!  There may be a certain movie reaction coming very soon! ;)

(Not Buffy, sorry.  The Crimes of Grindalwald! XD)

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Frederique Gillespie

And now you've met Season 2's Big Bad: Angelus. This is my season 2 10/10 episode. Personally, I don't think it's having sex with Buffy that triggered the curse. I think sex is only the symbol of the trigger. I believe what really triggered the curse was the vulnerability, the contentment, the feeling of perfect happiness that Angel felt in that moment. Anyway, more when I've watched. :) Freddie And I'm back. I told you: Oz is perfect. :) I mean, he has to be to be worthy of Willow, doesn't he? Seein Xander rise to the occasion is awesome. It's part of why the character annoys me so much most of the time. To know that he can be this great, but instead lets his pettiness and possessiveness get the better of him pretty much always... It's such a waste. Jenny's mistake was a lack of honesty or transparency. Giles did the exact same thing. But, of course, because her actions meant the Scoobies weren't aware of the risk of losing Angel, she pays a greater price. It's not exactly fair, is it? But I get it. And you were right in a way. We lost Angel. Buffy's prophetic dream did come true. Angel "died" and the thing that killed him is now walking around, wearing his face. As always, I thoroughly enjoyed your reaction.

FandomReferenceHere

Congratulations, you have completed the tutorial level for Buffy and now the real game begins 😁

Giorgia M

God, I love this one so much. Will comment after ive watched it through but I always piss myself at, "What's that do?" Such a classic.

FandomReferenceHere

Angel is evil, Jenny is excluded from the group, Xander steps up in a big way, and Oz continues to be apparently perfect. Onwards we go into the back half of season 2! I agree with you that Willow's reaction to Xan-Delia isn't all about jealousy. Sure, that's a part of it, but I think it's also a realization that growing up can mean growing apart. Xander has been her best friend for years and he kept a big secret from her, even though their mutual dislike of Cordelia was one of the core parts of their friendship! (I LOVE that Xander is apparently the Treasurer of the We Hate Cordelia club.) Willow knows that Xander doesn't owe her romantic attraction, but it still hurts. And now for the breakup of Calendiles. 😭😭😭 I love how Giles sides with Buffy and supports her leadership, telling Jenny "She said to get out," even though it means his own love life is getting destroyed. Giles is the perfect father figure to Buffy, so supportive, and we see a lot of it this episode. (Sheesh Veggie I hope this hasn't sent you a notification every single time I accidentally pressed Enter, because I must have done that about ten times. Sorry!)

RavenLord

Hello! There are crossover episodes with the Buffy and Angel series, and there is a watch order to them, but you don't even have to think about this until *after* Buffy Season 3 ends. I have the site link. If you don't want to read titles of episodes (there are no explanations of them, but some of the titles might be a little spoiler-ish), just scroll down until you see a column that says "Buffy Season 4" next to a column that says "Angel Season 1." When you are ready to begin Angel (at the end of Buffy Season 3), the episodes highlighted in red are the matching crossover episodes, and the episodes are numbered in the order of watching (57, 58, 59, etc.) Hopefully it will make more sense when you see the columns than my paltry explanation here. Basically, Buffy Season 4 corresponds with Angel Season 1, such as you watch Buffy episode 3 (61) and *then* Angel episode 3 (62) to watch the crossover episodes in proper order. http://josswhedon.blogspot.com/2012/04/buffy-and-angel-episode-viewing-order.html I should add that the Angel series has a darker vibe overall than Buffy. Not to say that it isn't good -- it certainly is -- but the tone is definitely darker. Still has humor, though

Giorgia M

There’s so much good stuff in this episode, it actually feels longer. This is 9/10 for me. It still is outshined by a few later episodes for me, but it’s definitely up there. It’s hard seeing Buffy so upset but she is also such a badass in this episode, fighting through the pain. Especially the scene where she is walking away from Angel through the “rain”, “Give me time.” I actually understand the irrationality of Willow because while she might not have the right to give Xander grief for who he dates, Cordelia has basically picked on both of them for many years. Especially Willow, if we remember from the first episode. It feels like a betrayal on both sides, she’s obviously hurt romantically but it’s insulting to their friendship as well. It’s not completely reasonable but I actually like that because they are teenagers and they aren’t going to act in the right way so it’s realistic to me for Willow to be kind of all over the place about it. I do think with the way she said “Oz has a van” and like makes a face, she was trying to make Xander a bit jealous. Giles and Jenny are breaking my heart too but Giles siding with Buffy on it shows how deeply he cares for her. No matter how many times I rewatch, Buffy pinning Jenny to the desk always shocks me!! Love my unhinged woman ❤️ Also, Buffy and Giles father daughter moment in the car hurts my heart, I love them. Hate to say it but Angel being evil makes him so much more interesting lol. Can’t wait for what’s to come!!!

The Ginger Historian

Every time I watch this episode I see or hear something new. Like just now when Jenny says to Giles "Don't talk like that, Rupert, the kids..." I mean... maybe I'm reading too much into it, but that sounds quite domestic. I like it. Also, if you had the DVDs, you remember all those clips they would play when you would change menus? "We're going to destroy the world... want to come?" was definitely one of them.

The Ginger Historian

It took me a minute to get what you meant by serious Xander - because even though that's an actual phrase that makes sense, I kept getting the fandoms mixed up and hearing Sirius Xander because I can somehow make anything nerdier.

Garry (Not Jerry)

I’m not sure the gang were happy about having to “pick up the pieces”. So many great lines in this one. Evil Angel is a great villain. And I agree the David Boreanaz did a great job 👏 What a tragic episode for Buffy.

Giorgia M

Such a quotable episode!!!

Frederique Gillespie

For some reason, the one that stuck to my mind is "Er... Arm!"

Diego Zenhäusern

Wow Angel's story certainly took a turn I wasn't expecting😮. But I really enjoyed this episode!

Diego Zenhäusern

I'd definitely agree on the curse thing! I think it definitely felt in the episode like it was about the feeling of happiness and not just the act in and of itself.

Frederique Gillespie

Diego... Does this mean you're also watching the show for the first time? It's awesome if you are. I'll just try to remember that so as to not spoil anything for you in my replies. :) But, yeah, Angel's story took a turn. Freddie

Diego Zenhäusern

Yeah, I've seen like the first 1 and a half season a few years ago (this and the last two episodes where the first episodes I hadn't seen at all, though I'd also forgotten A LOT of the "smaller" plot twists in previous episodes😅) but I somehow dropped the ball and never got back into it🙈... So I took Veggie watching the show as an excuse/ motivation to give the show another try. And I certainly wasn't dissapointed so far...especially since watching it along with others also helped me notice a lot of the subtleties of the show.🙂

Giorgia M

Hahaha. To each their own!!! Most of Oz’s lines are cool enough to be quotable! 😂

Saiyasha

I think one important detail to mention, because it is easy to miss, is that it wasn't the 'climax' that took angels soul, it was the afterglow. I think there is an important distinction to make between conflating coitus with happiness and understand that Angel was happy because he just shared an extremely intimate moment with the person he loved and then he went to sleep in her Arms, feeling truly happy. THAT is what took his soul.

Jake M

The cold open doesn't make much sense, if vampires don't have breath then how did Angel puff out smoke like that? Continuity is more important than looking badass! XD

Doris

Perfect explanation.

Milku Grace TV

Thank you dearly for watching this series. I'm so glad that there are people still discovering the wonders of Buffy. THANK YOU!

K'Banj

How could you possibly feel bad for Xander? This has been said in past episodes, all when Xander absolutely does not deserve the sympathy!

Hypatia

Currently binging these reactions - and whilst Veggie may never see this comment the movie posters behind Angelus and Buffy while they were fighting are for one of my favourite animated movies “Quest for Camelot”. Great movie that has Pierce Brosnan, Gary Oldman, Cary Elwes, Eric Idle and others voice acting.

Elisa

10/10 episode for me - so much greatness: acting, writing, directing, music, stunts. It not only changes the arc of the season but is a gut punch for viewers and characters alike. Plus, it's a banger from start to finish.

Todd Bolton

With Xander and Cordy, it’s been pretty obvious what’s happening all along. It started out as sexual attraction and it grew into something more, which is actually a rather regular occurrence in the world. There is no indication that Xander has gross emotional problems. Xander only apparently hates Cordy. It’s the old enemies to lovers trope. As you bring up, Willow is acting like Xander here. Xander gets called on it but Willow rarely does. I’m glad you see it (mostly at the beginning of next episode, which I watched before writing this because I know you often modify what you say at that point). You said, Willow’s “talking about her self-worth, and what she wants to means to Xander. I don’t think she’s thinking about Xander.” And you bring up what Buffy said to Xander in “Prophecy Girl”. Brilliant! I don’t see Giles as supporting Buffy when he tells Jenny, “she said, get out”. I think it was simply anger. He could have supported Buffy without being cruel. Jenny is mistreated at this point, though I can understand it. But she didn’t really do anything wrong, and she wants to help. Great reaction!