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AMERICA IN FLAMES: ELECTION NIGHT (Patreon)

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2024-11-07 01:41:11
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We close out our election coverage with some discussion of the results, lists of winners and losers, giving analysis, etc…

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CJ

Worst

Wyrm

SHITS FUCKED CAP’N

Jaime Perez

Another podcast lets go!!!!

JD Nonce

WE FAILED HER! We all failed the Brat Queen and we should repeat that to ourselves until we throw up

Dr. No No No

Brace was right Jill Stein Swept

gatito

Final ly

Noah

Jill Stein is electable if you fucking vote for her.

brendo

Don't blame me, I voted for Sleepy

julian

why didn't biden win :(

Nolan

The White House does not Always Win : (

MoldyTolge

Dr Evil costume this ep?

Natalie

rip liz's bet money

Jared Bauer

You see, to be electable you would need people to vote for you

Will Hsu

get Hasan on the pod!!!

JB Bowser

I love you ❤️

adam22

main takeaway is that Kamala is the step momala of the US and once she’s elected there won’t be more dramala

Tim O'

I'm gonna miss this theme music

Matt Jolo

I know that it’s easy to cast off that Kamala lost because she is a black woman in America. We all know. But that is not the only reason she lost. She lost because she’s a coward and didn’t address the problems that the vast majority of people are facing. Instead she offered menial hyper focus grouped convoluted policies and FAILED HORRIBLY to communicate them effectively. That’s the biggest reason she lost.

Grant

Yippie slop time

Tim O'

The electorate was sleeping through election day in solidarity

Blank

I’m really feelin Brace’s mood last ep of just being so fucking angry at these people

Jimothy Realname

I forgot to bring my lunch to work yesterday, which I never do, and I when I bought a hamburger I knew it portended Trump's victory

ZeeBee

We need The Belden Plan now more than ever

Ben H

But ideally not, since she's a moron and the Greens are full of rubes in this country. Vote for an actual socialist at least.

CC

Finishing up a listen of Demonrats Ep: 38 right now. All time rant in the last 13 mins.

Jen Sparks

The gang goes to Trump’s inauguration will heal us

Richard Cochnar

Flawless campaign. Only lost 14 million voters.

Reece Coren

was literally sitting by my phone screen like a dog waiting for you guys 💗

Adam Arola

Where is the opening clip from? Real mindbending shit.

cori

suicide postponed

Vero

Bummed the Liz Cheney heads didn’t come out to the polls in hoards

Jabroni Ludd

I heard that when Kamala conceded to Donald his reply was, Its all love

Spence Lee

Trump is a piece of dog-shit. This “both sides are the same haha” stuff only seems edgy until Kash Patel is head of the CIA and spying on Americans, women can’t get abortions, and the justice department is targeting anyone who is rude to Trump.

zo

Brace saying trump would win was the first person I heard say that and started having doubts after months of saying Kamala 100% will win. Hello from Pittsburgh, PA.

Matelda

Kamala could have and should have shit all over Joe Biden once she was locked in as the nominee. What could he do, fire her? She should have told America "i once believed the lie that Joe Biden was good," like Vance did for Trump but in reverse. She didn't do what was needed because she had no vision and no courage.

K'caj

Queen Latifah never endorses anyone.

Peri

i love you guys thank you for the giggles no homo

Blank

Same

th

trump did not do better. kamabla just did worse.

NewTooshFatoosh

Been lol-ing all day. Quite scared, but lol-ing nonetheless.

Simon Maraya

At dinner with family tonight, my mother asked "I wonder how Timothy Snyder is doing" 😢

th

i do agree that probably no democrat would have won there; liz is right about the fundamentals just being terrible. just think it's important to note that trump did pretty much the exact same and kamabla underperformed biden in every place with every possible group of people.

Grant

God forbid I had some fun with the coconut memes 🙄 watch out it’s the sincerity police 🚨👮👮‍♂️

Johnny S.

Is true. Am in jail for mocking Trump.

T

All the boomers in my life are suicidal

Johnny S.

I’m in Appalachia. It’s the opposite here. Big Rock Candy Mountain 24/7.

Robbie H.

Idk it was funny but I don't think yall know as much about what people thought or why as much as you think you do

Daniela

as a daca recipient i knew scotus was gonna strike it down in june probably but now im in the dumps! totally agree with everything you guys said this pod, i’m annoyed i thought it couldve gone any other way

Travis Salyer

Biden remains the only one who can defeat Trump

Mike

You must be new around here

tuztooz

just spit ballin here but the “kamala IS brat” tweet felt very disingenuous from the get go. considering the youtubers are all talking about how brat was a “masterclass in marketing” and charli is clearly looking to get her bag, is it inconceivable that the kamala team incentivized charli to post about their campaign? or am i just baked

wailing ken jennings

open invite for any trueanon member to bunk w me for the inauguration. i got an aerobed, wifi, and a brita. lmk.

Sam Zeng

Agreed Trump has mickey mouse rings.

Daniela

I think when they launched the campaign X account they had “kamala” in the header with the brat font so Charli tweeted (posted) that

Daniela

but yes Charli is always thinking about marketing so I don’t think it was genuine but I’m sure she would’ve been happy to take credit if Kamala had won

tuztooz

ahh i deleted x and don’t remember the sequence of events

Zzz

“Robert reich that little poisoned dwarf” made me LOL fr 😂

Mango Bolsonaro

Wow the CIA spying on Americans, what a concept.

Spence Lee

Liz leaning into Trumps racist nick names and punching down on people- is she trying to become Trumps Ghislaine?

tuztooz

and yes 100%. i’m sure she’ll just ignore that this ever happened and lump it in with brat summer

Gulb

Agreed. Very surprised this strategy wasn't successful.

Axel H.

What are you even doing here? Lmao. This podcast ain't for you, it's fine.

Ian Horvath

I finished the last ep this morning and somehow that rant at the end put me in a good mood

Reece Coren

Adam friedland voted for kamala?

ploob

Brat fall is upon us

K

ploob

Absurdity is the only reality

PrinceVocalFry

After 2016, I felt that the party needed to be evacuated of every apparachik if the left was going to have any electoral presence - in the broadcast sense. Now, it seems like it is the democratic electorate itself - i.e. centrists to radlibs - must be explicitly rejected and made irrelevant. Weirdly enough, among the collection of freaks who won last night must be counted the Affiliated Platypus Society

ploob

Nope, actually they are not allowed to operate within the interior only abroad.

jrab

The 13 people who liked this comment will be detained by the Cheka

Smell z rain

Liz fits the presidential archetype to a T, Brace would be the rare "exceptional" vice president. A role that he was born for. Think the communist millennial version of Dick Cheney. Chomsky will run defense as chief of staff. Confusing the press pool with outstanding men's fashion advice as well as daily recipe recommendations. Bring in a rotating cast of press secretaries, firing them often to keep things interesting.

jrab

YC Interior Minister obviously

Ant koz

Who the fuck is talking in the intro?

Matelda

Joy Ann Reid

jrab

I had a horrible anxiety attack yesterday and a bunch of other weird shit happened all of which had exactly nothing whatsoever to do with each other or the election. Nevertheless I’m pretty sure some eldritch energy was in the air. Was also driving through a spooky forest for a lot of it

Christian Bendillo

I actually want to go and even dress in maga gear to participate lol

K H

Delighted to see her lose. Unfortunately the reaction of Dem voters is very much "they hate us for our freedoms, they killed themselves because our women wear pants." I have come to the conclusion that a majority of Dem voters are at least as evil as Republican voters.

Smell z rain

Do we have that position in the US? I support creating one in this cosplay, but if it already exists we should prob know who it is.

jrab

Dönmeh Trump

jrab

Why the fuck would we do that

K H

I have heard a few people say something along those lines. Honestly if a presidential election makes you kys then it's best to just tap out now. It will get worse.

Matelda

Also Biden didn't promise to have a WOC VP, he just promised to have a woman. And I'm convinced he was planning on picking Amy Klobuchar but then couldn't because she was disgraced by her Derek Chauvin connection.

jrab

Dam if I’d thought of that I might have Pokémon gone to the polls after all

Johnny B

I'm ending my subscription unless you both stop posting on x.com

K H

Bingo. A leader without courage can never beat a petty coward with a vendetta. Democrats tho at their core are weak losers so they see nothing wrong with the candidates they're given.

th

i would say that if we're talking about losers to the no-longer-repressed id of the american right trans people also deserve a mention, trump winning after nonstop ads during nfl games saying "kamala is for they/them" probably isn't gonna help with whatever insane psychosexual shit those school board freaks and womens sports warriors have got going on

jrab

Lol no it’s just one the TA Rules for Life. You gotta control the interior ministry when you take power. Always pay your guys. Get it in writing. Don’t move to the compound. Etc.

Pranjal Dwivedi

Will never get tired of Liz saying Sleep-py, something so lyrical about it

D

This is such a retarded response. I don't understand why TA fans are taking victory laps like this -- there are manifold shitty outcomes from a DT presidency that wouldn't have been realistically a potential outcome in a KH presidency. At best his policies will be just as bad as hers, at worst it's not even close. But go ahead and celebrate.

K H

Women already can't get abortions. They are already spying on you dipshit, Snowden showed that. Go to Gaza and let us know if you can feel the difference between a bomb from Biden's admin vs Trump's. Fucking idiot.

K H

Sounds real. With that Kamala was unburdened by what could be.

FarmerNed

Trump 2024: The Bespokening

K H

They're too young guys.

JVD

Bubba the Love Brother

Smell z rain

Same page, I can't help but think that the rule is a callback to Enver Pasha famously killed by Armenians as part of operation nemesis.

J.P. McD.

I know this liberal who keeps posting that the Senate should refuse to confirm the votes (or whatever) bc Trump is ineligible bc he tried to do a coup. Would be significantly more anti-democratic than anything Trump is gonna do.

Smell z rain

By 2028 they'll be good to go

Caroline

But Kamala is actually a secret Marxist and the coconut tree was her call to bring historical materialism and dialectics to the masses… not sure how that talking point didn’t work on the left

Ligma

Why would women think that kamala would have done anything about abortion rights when roe was taken away under a democratic administration and their only response was to fundraise off of it? If she could bring it back, why can't Joe do it now?

Smell z rain

Excuse me, Talaat Pasha. Is the one. His assassination was foundational to the creation of the word genocide

Vero

His comments do give me a giggle. Let him cook.

Vinay

I remember Emma from MR coconut pilling hard

Vero

The everything app?

Rod Sturgeon

Jesus Christ that intro segment actually hurt my brain to listen to

Peter Annee

Who was speaking in the intro?

Zach

I think Sleepy Joe endorsed Kamala after he dropped out because he wanted to fuck over the Dems who pressured him into stepping down (specifically Obama) by preventing them from choosing their preferred candidate at the Democratic Convention.

K H

See the problem with you is you don't see any of this as changeable. Your response to 2 fucked options is to always select one, so you are continuously given that exact same ultimatum. If Democrats can not win with increasingly shitty candidates then they have to get a better one and Democrats constantly imagining a theoretical conceptual voter must at some point appease their concept of the left. Instead of always asking if it is "too far left" they must ask "is that policy too far right?" When you perceive the world as maleable instead of like a child that can only act within the framework that exists, it is clear why Kamala not winning is good. Sad Trump won, but unfortunately alot of spoiler votes went to Kamala.

Solanuma

it's never too late to get busy skeeting on bsky

Sam Regan

Republican appointed Supreme Court deaded it, though, and I guess the assumption is that she would sign the bill codifying Roe if Congress passed it, or at the very least refrain from doing the psycho anti-choice shit outlined in project 2025. I agree with your sentiment, neither she nor Biden can bring it back via the White House so it was kind of an empty promise

DarylBarenziah

Liz made a really good joke about kamala lamping before the dropout in a dorm room and braze Blew right past it.

Sam Regan

His new staff will be much more competent actually

Ant koz

Dude I thought these people had reached a point where they could not surprise me… I was WRONG

Ant koz

First time long time, dog… trump matched up against the big dogs, Washington, adams, abe link 22, JORDAN, obamacrack69.. it’s done, he’s cooked. Disney world rings all day

Ant koz

Democrats running the dream progressive ticket in 2028 baby, Liz Cheney/ Megan McCain… they learned their lesson, do not offer too much to the left wing of the party. Never again

Zzz

“Hey, read this” lol

Ant koz

This sucks dude imagine still buying into the democrats as they continue to offer working people nothing as more and more working people of minority origin that they pander to constantly bail on their weak shit as they spend billions on bombs sucking off Israel’s insane far right bullshit, tout the fucking Cheney endorsement in their final plea to voters as it drifts further to the right by the fucking second and still being like “these people are trying to be EDGY”. FUCK I’m glad I’m not like this guy

Lulu

RFK Jr scares me the most. Dude is operating off a half eaten brain and will control our food and healthcare.

Timothy

Who's that

dam

Report from a swing state: I went to vote last night and the long ass line in the parking lot went by a jeep that had a sticker on it that said like "Americans: immigration, Democrats: abortion, Americans: inflation, Democrats: abortion, etc." And then that same car had a sticker that said "late term abort Kamala then make it illegal" lol. I waited in line for like 90 minutes in the cold and every 20 minutes somebody in a big truck with a trump flag would drive by and do a burnout or roal coal or a group of guys on motorcycles would come by the line and rev their bikes obnoxiously. And these were different people every time not the same person. Then a guy pulled up with an out of state plate and yelled "the votes are rigged you morons!" After I voted I was hanging with my dad who lives in a trailer park, basically full of trump voters. Like 8 of them and me were gathered up at my one person's trailer watching the election results. Over the course of the night I heard talk of "deporting" (?) or killing homeless people, killing trans people, mandatory drug testing for all jobs (haven't heard that one), the N word a couple times (just one guy), all kinds of crazy shit about immigrants voting and staking jobs and causing the housing crisis, and that gasoline was never going away now. Then I went to work this morning and my coworker said he was bummed abortion might get banned because he has daughters which shocked the hell out of me because of the rest of the stuff he says but then he followed it up that he was hopeful Trump would round up the homeless and get rid of them which made me feel like things were back to being balanced. Good stuff Edit: I forgot to mention that at the poling location there was DJ that setup a table in the parking lot that was playing hip hop and country songs.

Vinay

Emma Vigeland from the Majority Report

ruby

I revisit to ground myself often

Timothy

They are on the 24 hour news cycle, so they will say every possible combination of words to fill air space.

MATT TRIANO

He's also a rapist of boys and girls

DH

Gonna be a charli defender here and say that it was 1 very off hand tweet she wrote while day drunk at a pool party that the Kamala campaign ghouls took and ran with…charli did zero engagement after that & im sure turned down requests to play at rallies & shit because she’s smart enough to keep engagement with American politics to a minimum

Timothy

Brat winter is coming

Matelda

You know what, I was mad all day, mostly at my family for not recognizing how right I am or congratulating me like I deserve, but you've almost convinced me that I was actually wrong. Kamala didn't blow it by running as Biden Cheney Jr. She could never have won no matter what, because by the time she was given the job it was too late. So really she is a victim. Her only crime is waking up one day to find herself a presidential nominee, and dishonoring herself by trying to win rather than stand up for what's right.

Ant koz

Brace I too kept picturing kamably in a shitty green room with punk hunx doing key bumps and going to mini fridge for some wings…. Also y’all gotta check out this sick video of RFK on his instagraham where he’s on fox friends addressing the issue of McDonalds using vegetable fat in their fryers instead of animal fat. I for one am really happy to have someone that takes my health seriously in the White House for when I drive through my local health food store.

Alexandria

100% agree not sure it wasn't ironic even. The Dems took it and ran it into the ground. She was never involved

Vero

How excited are we for Newsom 2028? Should I make bumper stickers?

Alexandria

Every day I tell my toddler "let's put on your Jen Psakis and shoes" 🧦

Clean Shirt Piggie

I’m so here for it. Dems should have made their slogan “lock him up” and chanted it every rally. Would have won

Zzz

Wait she was coconut pilled? Doesn’t seem like her…

Clean Shirt Piggie

Bet she be getting sleepy watching newsmax in bed on her iPad

taejo-pom

Musk Rogan 2028!

dam

Every Republican I know got "Epstein didn't kill himself"-pilled in 2018 have now voted his best friend in twice. That same guy who is now claiming he'll appoint RFK who has ties and Elon who has ties. Among a dozen other ties directly to the man. Wild

Major Pisano

Liz election recap for the win. Brace , sell high brother love. Yc , sonic quality waves always . Everyone is so appreciative of your opinion eternally. Real talk. Papa roach Carrie underwood acoustic. Totally unnoticed during the commotion of the year. But wow, this is amazing. This duo mashup could be the most effective new vibe to promote as a cure for liberal dismay and could be potentially harnessed for liberal future political campaigns and/or movements. Totally a winner of a sound and a winning candidate proposition for our liberals. Just saying. any thoughts? Could win with Gavin? Gold winning ticket vibes. Right? Total win. JD couldn’t compete. Your opinion matters , our future matters . Your the voice of a community Liz

Empty H

Biden could do the funniest thing rn

Ian P

Why do I keeping thinking Joe Biden is dead

Geronimo

It wasn’t just the chauvin connection it was the BLM protests in general, lots of pressure on him to pick a black woman specifically. Except the only democratic black women with power at the time were Kamala, wannabe governor Stacey Abrams, and a bunch of mayors. It *had* to be Kamala, and then it *had* to be her again as the nominee in 2024. Dems looked around the room twice and she was the only person there for reasons that had nothing to do with her

Empty H

lol, that wasn’t even a problem for them until his Alzheimer’s moments were too difficult to hide. “Well Trump is 77 and Joe Brandon is spry for 108. See here, the nyt is reporting that the secret to Bidens heath and marriage is eating Dr. Jill Brandon’s pussy without his dentures is. Nyt also reports Biden has a curve to the left that hits her g-spot so perfect.”

Geronimo

They are both the same, no question, except in minute details. The left wing of American capitalist imperialism is still fourth Reich Nazi sociopathy. For example, Holocaust Harris and Trump would would continue the genocide Palestine. Seriously, other than taxes and a SC nominee, there is little difference between the two AND anything you are so terrified of trump doing would just happen in 2028 or 2032 when a Republican inevitably wins again.

Empty H

I’m pretty sure I could defeat a 77 year old even without my nunchucks and inhaler

That Guy

Now that democracy was voted to death, we can get back to classico episodes about the new Epstein recordings right?

dan

damn ur memory hallucinating then

Uso Dayo

Big winner is Peter Thiel

PT

Wait what’s his issue with Indians lol

PT

When did he say that, that doesn’t sound like Brace at all. I always thought he rocked with the subcontinent.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle

Thats because I made it up. There are a lot of us and that means it seems like a higher proportion of us are scammers or Hindu-Hitlers.

Robert Armstrong

Remember, kids - Trump was deffo gonna win until June.

PT

You’re fucking weird, man. Be normal.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle

But yeah brace has made several comments down the years about Indians which don’t reflect that well on us as a group. I assumed it was for the reasons I laid out.

PT

I think it’s fairly obvious to anyone that’s not racist that trying to generalise a country of 1.4 billion solely via online Sanghi right-wing garbage is dumb (and racist). You don’t need to do the self-hating Desi routine that I typically see a lot of diaspora NRIs engage in (as a non-diaspora Desi).

The Friends of Eddie Coyle

I was joking. I didn’t use the term racist. Nor am I self hating. Was just making a joke.

The Friends of Eddie Coyle

You’re completely misreading me bhai. I was making reference to the comments brace has made and acknowledging that he might be looking at the bhakt/scammer online presence and wrongly thinking that represents even 1% of India. And I definitely am not self hating. If I could permanently move back, I would. I love it here.

Wesley M

Republicans have controlled the house since 2022… do any of you pay attention???

Quinn

What happened to Joe Biden?

Wesley M

If all of you have become so cynical that you think nothing can be achieved electorally in this country, then start firebombing shit. We have two options, electoral politics or violence. Participate in one. Please. You’re all becoming so annoying.

Wesley M

They’re talking about ending water fluoridation and you think there’s no difference between the two parties… please get serious

Jaime Perez

I want whatever you smoking brotha

Tim O'

Depends on your definition of "dead," really

Kevin Price

Really thought she was going to win lol, whoops

Ligma

Nope

Mads

Biden 2028, let’s gooo

Daniel Comiskey

I think in many respects they would be the same, but there's gotta be a reason Bibi still prefers Trump. Republicans have there foot on the gas driving toward the fascist cliff. Democrats take the wheel occasionally, but they neither change direction nor hit the brakes. They just take their foot off the gas and let it coast.

gavin curran

The cool thing about the Supreme Court is they have no way of enforcing any of their rulings we can just ignore them like most laws

Spence Lee

I think I was more interested in the podcast when it had an ANTI rapist theme to it.

Spence Lee

Yes, Gaza will be so much better off under the new Trump administration.

AL

Lib say what?

AL

"just like a cop she (Kamala) is a fucking idiot." Amen small B Brace.

Brian Ward

We'll probably never get the answer to this but I really want to know what's happening with biden the last 1-2 years. If he really just had COVID during the debate which was the excuse, then why not let him run? If he is senile as most of us probably believe then when did it really kick in and who has been running the states during that time?

Ramona

Don’t blame me I voted true no matter who

Andrew

*will stancil dislikes this*

Spence Lee

And I agree with you the Democrats should have more for working people- probably Medicare for all and higher minimum wages- My point is not that the Democrats are the right party, just that they are better than the Republicans, and it’s a 2 party system so you choose the better option.

Willie

Did people actually trick themselves into thinking trump would be better for Palestine? I thought we all just knew that not signing on with the dem funded genocide was the bare minimum for not going to hell

BeanCurd

feels like we're entering Trump's 3rd term

Fresh Dill

Justice for Neil diamond. Brother love’s salvation show came first, we’re taking it back

Jack

The palace aids who control his access, duh!

Buttfarts

Many programmer/hacker types are leftists. Tired of being talked about like I'm part of the labor aristocracy just because I make six figures. 120k a year isn't shit where I live in California. I have 20k in a 401k, bad credit, and no other savings. I spent my 20's as a bartender and broke into tech because I couldn't make ends meet. I'm not living in luxury. My salary doesn't even get me a decent apartment in my area where one-bedroom apartments rent for $3000 + per month and sell for 1.5 million. The only difference between my life now and when I was a bartender is that now it would take 3 or 4 missed paychecks to run out if money instead of living hand to mouth. Many people in tech are Marxists. People who care about open-source software are even more likely to be so. The percentage of shitty right wing programmers is much lower than any career in finance, law, or economics. These billionaires aren't right-wing because they are in tech, they are right-wing because they are billionaires.

Julia

I really am convinced that the Dems knew that they couldn't win and chose her as their sacrificial lamb, she was just too dumb to notice

Julia

what swing state is this???? Pls be PA because I live in the exact opposite part of PA

cogandbal

Ok maybe he's not that different

Dick Waglin

Damn Bourgeois Tinkerer is a good band name

Doug Cartel

The "problem" with china is that we used to scaremongering about the "threat" they pose solely to sell F22s and now everyone believes the bullshit In 2004 if you said china was our next enemy the response would have been "yeah that's obviously bullshit, we're too intertwined with them economically" That's what all the economic de-coupling has been about: trying to set the stage for a war.

Justin Zuberka

I honestly think this election result is a step forward. I am hopeful for the future. Maybe I’m delusional but I feel like this needed to happen for a better future

Doug Cartel

To clarify, a professional DC head would have laughed, some dumbfuck in suburbia would gave agreed with the claim.

Mango Bolsonaro

I agree, I can easily imagine “Kamala is brat” being tweeted mindlessly on the patio of like Trans Pecos in Brooklyn after doing a key bump thinking it was funny in the moment and suddenly it blows up at the same time that “Apple” track is blowing up on TikTok. Considering the crowd she hangs around I don’t think she has much interest in politics.

Geronimo

It’s not cynicism, it’s just material class interests. You thinking you can squeeze out some benefits for yourself despite the genocide is a lie - it’s *because* the genocide, the fourth reich’s terrorism in general, that even gives you this pretend horizon of security inside the wire. You literally just voted for the people who are firebombing shit as we speak, to secure your bag. This is very common (squirrel trying to chase a nut), but you’re the kind of squirrel that has wayyyy more in common with Netanyahu and Trump’s politics than anything I believe in

FA

On China, beyond just straight up racism, I think a lot of the conservative/right wing opposition from the average citizen is just straight up conspiracy bullshit. I've heard stuff like they're sending us genetically modified crops to estrogenize our population, Chinese sleeper cells are coming through the Mexican border, they're making military bases in Africa to train random African children into Chinese super soldiers, etc etc.

Internet Lefty

He has been melting down on Twitter. Man I hate that guy!

Geronimo

That’s the thing everyone dances around, if you want the US government to give you anything you make a tacit agreement that collaboration with genocide, the fourth Reich, everything talked about in this show, is ultimately justifiable. Whether it’s Bernie or Kamobla that basis holds true. And that makes you on the wrong side of things period, makes you a conscious (not “brainwashed) collaborator with the fourth reich’s political project.

buttface

Sounds like you tricked yourself into thinking the dems would be better

K H

I did vote Wesley. Most people I voted for won. I'm not cynical, but I'm also not a nazi. If you think this is annoying, try imagining a guy voting for a genocidal candidate because they promise to keep your teeth healthy, despite not even being in charge of that shit, then saying you're cynical for not accepting inevitable holocaust. Having morals isn't cynicism and if your morals don't visibly or practically influence your actions you don't actually have them. You don't deserve to commit genocide and look respectable. Trump is what you deserve, because it reflects what you are, or at least what you support. Functionally there is no difference. You voted for a loser and spoiled the victory for Jill Stein. Next time get in line. Get your mind right.

Rob

Great idea tbh

cogandbal

Or that yao ming was a genetic experiment by the red chinese. I would much rather have xi than kamala

Kyle Smyth

That she got this far is an anomaly. She should never have risen above the rank of a Katie Porter or an AOC. She gained national prominence from committee hearing clips that even liberals don't pretend to care about anymore and as with Hillary her campaigns were never any good. Not a particularly intelligent person or a dynamic speaker. Just a dud politically from every angle.

Scott

I shot trump tee restock when 💪😘

Scott

Black tee version would be great too

wonderfell

no better song for the Democrats in this moment than Tuesday’s Gone

buttface

This is some really weird misplaced aggression- go for a walk dude

K H

Oh fuck. Not the BlAsian super soldier.

K H

I think it is a lil delusional. I think she needed to lose but I'm still ready to get gone. Democrats are working HARD to not take the lessons they need to take to make this world better. When unions start cross communicating and spitting on SCOTUS decisions and WINNING, then be hopeful.

Spence Lee

This is probably some reasonable advice.

D

OK, you guys actually are idiots and not just acting like it. My bad.

buttface

They govern identically. The only difference is the rhetoric.

K H

You lost D. You're a loser. Guess that makes you a genius? Holocaust is a hardline for a few people. You're squishy on it. That's cool. You lost. Get over it.

Willie

Ngl the smartest thing republicans could do is give trump the jfk treatment. No one can recreate his it factor but they could martyr him and extend the life expectancy of their shitty policies

K H

What decoupling? I see new companies trying to do what China already does better and cheaper. Realistically capitalist motivation favors maintaining the trade network.

Brian Ward

This was kind of zizeks argument when trump bet Hillary and while the reasoning is relatively understandable, the reality is it seems increasingly unlikely there is any one incident that is capable of provoking people to move leftward or just become more politically active/intelligent any more

K H

Are you seeing people saying Trump will be better for Palestinians? Are you conflating satisfaction with Kamala as a proven supporter of genocide losing as thinking Trump will be better? When you do certain things you deserve to lose.

Brian Ward

Sure, and some Dems probably even think that's a good thing, but it's also the deep state in action? Feel like the fact that this doesn't get any attention just reiterates that even the democracy 'true believers' know that these elections are horseshit

K H

Lost him.

K H

What happened? Where they find these?

K H

You can only say shit like this about Adam Friedland.

Willie

Friend, I’m not sure if you read my words wrong or if I’m bad at articulating a point, but I have never bought into the bullshit that democrats are better cause they’re doing *genocide lite ™️* I’m just someone who accepts reality that regardless of who wins the election, Israel gets to keep killing babies

K H

damn

Ceeg

Problem is doctors and hospitals are enforcing their rulings with deadly consequences in red states. They’re too afraid of being sued by the state they’ll take their chances with letting dozens of women suffer and/or die.

PineBat Jo

Fuck they’re really laying the groundwork work ww3.

Ceeg

Their biggest hurdle will be their own incompetence

Jack

Ok here's one potential. Trump invades Mexico on the grounds of going after cartels and border security. But he really does it to overthrow Sheinbaum to secure US corn export market and resource extraction (and maybe reign in some of the more "interdiction" resistant drug traffic aka bring more of it back under US control).

K H

Trump supporters(in trailer parks) have not been to finishing school. They don't know how to talk about mass surveillance and incarceration in palatable ways. They are called upon to do the jobs though.

K H

Too much as in...? That is what we were on track for. Party is immovable. Have to move the voters, but they're dumb af.

K H

Nope. Not a shitlib. Bigly if true.

K H

Legally Joe Biden can kill the Supreme Court in his official capacity as president and have them replaced. He won't do it. Imagine being almost dead, having all the power, and doing NOTHING with it.

Petrorenminbi

“Don’t blame me i voted for the gay guy” shirts when?

Ceeg

Has the Atlantic put out their article yet that perfectly captures how they’re all feeling?

Hall wingfield

The effect this will have on climate change alone is catastrophic but okay accelerationist

Hall wingfield

2024's result speaks for itself as a demonstration of how Zizek's prediction turned out

Justin Zuberka

I don’t really advocate accelerationism but that is the reality we live in. At this point there is no stopping climate change. Even before this election we were careening off the cliff. Joe Biden and the shit libs are the actual accelerationists. I think we are at the point where the die has been cast there is no going back. Revolution is the only path forward. We live in the context of all that has come before. I can see a vision that of the future that didn’t exist before this maybe a horrible moment rn but it’s a step forward.

John Lemieux

Can’t believe you both forgot about JEN PSAKI (brace voice)

Carrie H

I’d love to better understand your issues with RFK and Tulsi. is there an episode where the argument against them is laid out? I heard the one where you guys talk about the bear thing… but beyond that weird ass shit.. not much to that argument. Is this purely a personal/voice thing? Yes RFK left a fucking dead bear in central park… so weird.. but like people do weird shit sometimes. Dude was an addict and has admittedly lived a colorful life. I relate as I am also a former addict and can GUARANTEE that if my life was dissected for all to see publicly, that there’d be some super juicy and humiliating headlines for hit pieces just the same. have any of you read RFKs books? for as wild as the man’s personal life has been, he’s a good man and has spent his entire life fighting the machine. It surprises me that people don’t seem to see that. I am open to hearing why I am wrong here. But I have yet to hear a strong argument against the man… and Tulsi is another one I don’t understand. I really like her and see in her what is missing in the Dems. again- I’m open to hearing why I am wrong on this. But from all I have heard, read, seen- I just don’t understand the negativity towards these guys. 🤔

Henry

Musk can't run for president

glenn mohre

Is Brace quoting "The Rain" by Oran Juice Jones when mentioning "squirrels trying to get a nut"?

Wesley M

He’s antivax and his legacy on environmental advocacy is more complicated than that.

Travis

pretty sure Trump was trying for “Kama-blah “

Tyler Sambucci

He has a large role in the Samoan measles outbreak because he went there to organize in their anti-vax movement. "During the stretch in which the vaccination coverage was dropping in Samoa, Kennedy visited the nation in June 2019 and gave a boost to anti-vaxxers there who had used the death of those two infants to help cause the drop in vaccination rates. He had a meeting with Taylor Winterstein, a prominent Samoan Australian vaccination foe. In an Instagram post featuring a photo of her with Kennedy, Winterstein wrote, “I am deeply honoured to have been in the presence of a man I believe is, can and will change the course of history. This was a divinely timed, once in a lifetime opportunity and I will forever cherish the conversations and moments we shared together in Samoa.” She added hashtags used by anti-vaxxers. Public health experts complained Kennedy’s visit to Samoa helped amplifly anti-vax voices." And he will do the same when he gets to Washington: https://apnews.com/article/rfk-jr-trump-vaccines-779495533a80ba142086a9621d75a59c

Ben

Brace keeping it to a single “but” to start the ep. And they say progress is impossible

K H

Liz is so wise. Of course...the gamber always wins.

Charlotte Ring

I think there is a world in which dems could have taken this - trump overall got millions fewer votes than 2020. It’s just that even fewer by far bothered to vote for Kama-brat

K H

Yea I don't thik anyone is disputing the biggest losers will be Palestinians.

Tim

If I listen to another explanation of the election I am going to commit self-harm.

BeanCurd

Crypto will grow but so will the entire stock market and it is easier/safer to get in/out

dam

No this was in NV

grymm

The "We're Republicans too!" campaign strategy somehow failed to energize Democratic voters. Weird.

Vortex

cia asset brace belden

Joshua Layton

They are both, especially Tulsi, wild, naked opportunists whose ideologies shift with whatever breeze blows them to the most attention and $. There are many more specific reason, but this is the overall problem with both of them.

Data Dealer

The thing I'm most disappointed about is this is the last time I will hear that beautiful intro YC made for the election coverage.

Travis

How did you guys miss Liz Cheney for your list of biggest losers

Richard McBeef

you really think that rules matter for rich people anymore?

Ty

I feel most of my problems could be solved by a meaty punch to one of these aforementioned elites in this episode. Would bring about a peace in me to see the slow motion ripples in the fat of JD cheeks that would send me to nirvana.

Carrie H

he single handedly cleaned up the Hudson river. and i love how people throw around the “he is antivax” thing like it’s a black and white issue.. he has stated on record like a million times that he is NOT anti vaccine. He is in fact pro vaccine. what he is trying to do is to educate people that MUCH of the 72 or so vaccines that are now on kids like my 3 small children’s vaccine schedules are A. not without negative side effects. B. downright unnecessary. And C. directly contributing to the chronic disease epidemic which is plaguing our country and most importantly our children. I will turn 40 in June. and when i was a child there were 6 vaccines on the schedule. today there are 72. doesn’t anyone else find that a little strange? ironically around the mid 1990s when they started adding all these vaccines to the schedule, the autism rate exploded from 1 in 1500 to 1 in 30. why is it wrong to question the possibility of a correlation here? I am not suggesting that the two are connected… but shouldn’t we want people to question these kind of things? big AG/big Pharma are controlling our media, and much of our public policy. why does it make one an “antivaxer” to question if something is going on here? If you read any of RFK jr’s books, it’s pretty apparent that there is a there there. If there wasn’t, why would the media and the establishment stop at nothing to destroy him? What am I missing here?

Carrie H

please give me some examples. it’s super easy to say stuff like this. I’d like to see you back it up. PS: not trying to be combative or rude. I am genuinely curious where this narrative is coming from and if anyone even knows

snapplepeachtea

i live in a socially constipated bicoastal elitist bubble where everyone seems fine. so its weirdly reassuring and perhaps vindictive for me to be happy that this election revealed how everyone is ambiently worse off than they present.

Jordan

love when they start talking like white collar Wall Street folks like they don’t understand the parasitic nature of those industries

Ellen Grace

A squirrel trying to get a nut? Too soon…….

snafujesus

I don't know that she was a coward. I just don't think she has any principles per se.

Carrie H

@tyler.… assuming since your name is Tyler that you have never given birth. well I have. 3 times.. and each time I was vaccinated for Hepatitis B.. and my new born babies were also vaccinated within 24 hours of birth. These vaccines contain neurotoxins like aluminum and mercury. by the way, unless you know any 1 day old babies who are having sex or using intravenous drugs- THIS IS NOT NECESSARY??? I am fully vaccinated as are my children. but I don’t see why it’s wrong to ask this question? “trust the science” isn’t enough. the whole point of science is to ask questions. please help me understand why this is wrong.

PCH

Keanu

My gf and I watched that movie and I didn’t know it was an Obama movie until now. It was honestly ass. Strong start but the rest fizzled out so sadly.

Jack Paul

Brace Brotha tha Luv Sponge

Jess

Swann fucking Marcus too... He made fun of the man who died in the Nutty Putty cave, that's why Kamala lost

Jess

He came

Matt Jolo

Always be hustling.

absoluteboi

its all about yield baby, crypto runs laps on the stock market

Ceeg

Why are you here when all of Reddit exists for single cell invertebrate life forms like yourself?

absoluteboi

do you know why vaccines have mercury? also in what quantities vs the ld50?

madison

It was a uranium mine (ye cadence)

Selecao9

Waaahhh wahhh wahhhhh!!

dam

Last name like that you're getting deported brother

Brian Ward

Damn didn't think I'd see a 'vaccines cause autism' truther subscribe to trueanon but it takes all sorts I guess

Buttfarts

Thanks for your feedback

Jack

You do realize what ld50 is right? I'm not saying the person you're arguing with is right but there are plenty of toxins you don't want to inject far below the ld50.

Seeking Treatment

Your understanding of how infectious diseases are transmitted is abysmal

Carrie H

easy cock smooch… Did I say that vaccines cause autism? seriously.. or are you misrepresenting what I said?? pretty sure you are. because what I actually said is that I DONT KNOW if there is a connection. I also said that myself and my children are fully vaccinated. so there is no reason to be rude.. I just don’t understand what’s wrong with asking the question. Why does everyone shame people who ask questions? I don’t get it.

Louise

Weird relationships with sexuality, a broken-brained sense of humor, lack of red lines, Israel's undefined borders etc. are all part of what I like to call The Boundary Problem. But Brace's advice to be less flexible in your politics is part of The Boundary Solution.

Louise

I need one in a nice racerback tank top to show off my guns

Carrie H

rather than making passive aggressive remarks and telling me that my understanding of something is “abysmal”… TELL ME WHY!!!!! as i have said a few times now, I am wide open to this shit baby! I never said i was right! I am just asking someone to make it make sense… because right now, it doesn’t! I bet you are one of those freaks who drives in your car alone with a covid mask and rubber gloves on. 🤣 this is actually amusing.

LPO Crane Jefferson

What's crazy is people aren't looking at voting numbers and claiming more people voted for trump than ever before and at least at this point that isn't true. The Dems lost 13-15 million votes because they tried to campaign to Republicans and do genocide. Ha they threw this election cause the AIPAC money is just too damn goooood. It truly was a flawless campaign focused on losing and being losers.

SmolDickRich

I can’t wait for trump to crock over during office and than we have a fucking couch diddler in office

Jes

46:00 - that's big titty Jen

Jeremy

low key the real winner here is rfk jr’s brain worm

Carrie H

I do not. I do know that mercury passes the blood brain barrier though… and I know that multiple vaccines have been pulled due to complications that this has caused. for the same reasons that pregnant women are told not to eat certain fish when pregnant… one has to wonder why this isn’t safe, but injecting it directly into our bodies is? again- I am just asking questions.

Son of El Topo

It’s insane they went with her when she had to drop out of the primary so early and was predicted to lose in her own state

Matelda

I kinda think she won

Adrienne Graf

She’s so nuts and not in a fun and flirty way

Norbur

Devil b. Brace

Tom

you know that lil guy is eating good tonight

wolfgang

Nixon split the working class using race and identity in order to give republicans the win. Trump put them back together, to again a republican win. The Democrats can only react to what’s “popular,” it’s practically their edict.

JK47

What do we realistically think about the mass deportations? Is he actually gonna do it?

Ben

2016 ass comment brotha, nothing ever happens it just repeats itself while getting worse.

Seeking Treatment

I work in a middle school and today one of my kids told me that Trump was going to put every non white person into concentration camps "including germans"

Jesse

Not me jumping into the comments to Stan for Charli but this is something our Truesome twosome has been wrong about since the summer. Charli tweeting Kamala IS brat is not the endorsement you think it is because you don’t understand brat. brat is about being a hot mess and getting drunk and doing coke and partying past your days of youth and I’m sorry but that is so perfect for Kamala. She’s fucking brat!!!

Jesse

I say this as someone who is a hot mess and gets drunk and does coke and parties too much past the days of my youth

Ant koz

It’s a joke I’m saying they offered the left wing nothing and that they will literally run actual republicans before offering the left anything

Ant koz

The democrats are a literal right wing party and pretty much everywhere in the world agrees except Israel and the UK. I’m confused as to what you’re saying but it seems like you’re blaming voters? Wel don’t blame me because I certainly didn’t vote for those fucking losers!! Unless you count writing in sleepy joe Biden!

J

This election might make 2020’s election the biggest phyrric victory I’ve personally ever witnessed

Barry Nixon

LEAVE CHARLI OUT OF THIS !!! some of us actually like her music

lilsharky

He'll never do it, he's making A LOT of money making woke comedy

Ess Dee

She had the swifties AND the beyhive?! Wowwwwww

MKH

Word on the street is Parkinson’s and apparently is very well known in dem circles at the top

MKH

^and diagnosis was approx 1-2 yrs ago

Maya B

I feel like they made ppl hate women more with all the “if you vote for trump or don’t vote for kamala u hate women” talk

pelicans123

Losers: newborns named Kamala after the last two months. Winners; eight year olds named Hillary

absoluteboi

i think there's a realistic chance he'll start expelling people with pending asylum cases/criminal records. and depending on the pushback dangle the prospect of repealing DACA. not sure if he can get away with mass raids and round ups and deportations. though bush definitely did get away with that, though it wasn't like a gigantic number of deportees. either, it's not a good outlook.

Tim O'

In his first term, he would usually announce that he was gonna do something horrible, and then do a single very damaging symbolic gesture towards that thing, but then be too lazy to follow through and actually implement a policy long-term. The real danger, IMO, is that he dies in office and the project goes to Vance, who actually understands how to use the levers of government.

professional loaf of bread

“Kamala is ABSOLUTELY brat. -A drunk -A poser -bad taste in music -party girl -Uncultured as hell -Thinks we are not drawing the Merck correlations -cliche in every aspect -needs a face lift..” -Azealia Banks

12345

Lmao

Brian Weiss

i think the story is he really wanted warren for vp

absoluteboi

i mean the point is to highlight how microscopic the levels are. but sure, you definitely wouldnt want to bioaccumulate toxins with chronic exposure. but that's also not gonna happen with the occasional vaccine. i mean how often do people get vaccinanted?

absoluteboi

there is way more mercury in fish than vaccines, that's why. do the research. we live in a time where its possible to answer your own questions by typing the exact question you want answered in a search box.

absoluteboi

and the purpose of the mercury is that vaccines contain perishable ingredients, that super tiny amount in vaccines help prevent spoilage. because injecting a spoiled vaccine would be way worse for you than that microscopic amount of mercury.

Kern Mailer

Yes, as anyone who was living in the US on a visa 2016-2020 can attest

Internet Lefty

Yeah I am also a software piggy and I have to say, I have never met another Marxist engineer. They're either liberals or Ron Paul types. I do think that anyone from any class background can get Marx-pilled and join the struggle generally but in our case we're highly privileged workers in the imperial core, and our politics generally will reflect that

alie lerm

As a recovering gambling fiend (from ponies to the 100x futures you can't even do stateside) I SEE U LIZ!! giving brace shit for averaging down his bad position, knowing not to hold the bag, casually clocking btc prices, pretending not to understand megamask, I know yr playing some sketchy penny pumps on a pdt etrade account while playing croidusd shit coins on the side!!!

jesse gates

Germany confirmed in latin belt

Selecao9

brat is one of the best albums from this year. Couldn’t care less about cringe election shit on tiktok.

Private Shawts

Saying he single handedly cleaned up the Hudson River is ridiculous.

Ben Flanagan

What's the other podcast brace appeared on yesterday?

chorchy

who wanna talk grimes tea

David J Sircin

Hey, I know this crumbs in the stream but 100%, don't blame the workers blame the bosses

T

Probably Queeber and the Ghris

Jimothy Realname

I'm sorry your preferred hitler lost the election. maybe in 2028 you'll get your hitler

wolfgang

The Republican party is the antisocial party(their greatest fear being socialists of course). It’s been this way for sometime and will likely continue. It’s also why they will continue to feel like “the outsider” despite also having the popular vote. The fact is that American society has become more isolate and antisocial, across all demographics. That’s why Trump was up in every demographic - especially white men. People think a better economy and more money will make them happier in their isolated bubble, when in reality they just need to go over to braces’ house and party their fucken ass off. But we definitely do not need more podcasts and content. Antisocial behaviors(crypto, war, anti-union, libertarianism, techno-libertarianism) is mostly what this podcast has been about but for some reason Brace and Liz are cooked this episode - there was even a moment to talk shit about podcasts and their contribution to antisocial behavior and feelings alienation? After this election, fuck podcasts. Podcasts are looser shit. Brace and Liz should stop doing a podcasts, throw parties full time.

Corey Reynolds

Where did you get this number that kids are getting 72 vaccines?

absoluteboi

who said anything about her music?

absoluteboi

im pretty sure we all got this. but thanks for tweensplaining

Seeking Treatment

Since you love asking questions maybe you can try asking a google "how can infants become infected with hep b?" before coming to the conclusion that it's simply not possible or too confusing to understand

Carrie H

false…mercury concentrations in vaccines dwarf other sources of exposure to children. and it’s the mercury based preservative in the vaccines--thimerosal which contains ethyl mercury - a dangerous neurotoxin which is the problem. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its brain will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you put it in a petri dish, the culture dies. The FDA proposed a ban on all products with Thimersol in 1982, and that SAME year the CDC green lit a vaccine for infants containing that very same poison. These are the same fucks that poisoned millions of people with the opioid epidemic. YES many vaccines are safe and effective and necessary!!! but some of them are not! why in Gods name is it wrong to question the very same people who colluded with the Sackler family. I don’t understand why you are choosing to blindly trust this. more importantly, regardless of your opinions, why would you admonish someone who has legitimate questions.

Jeremy

Marxism obsession is now

absoluteboi

you are just simply wrong. almost all fish regularly clock in above 0.005 mercury concentration, most significantly well above that. https://www.fda.gov/food/environmental-contaminants-food/mercury-levels-commercial-fish-and-shellfish-1990-2012 thimerosal is 50% mercury, and it appears at most at 0.01, which means a mercury concentration of 0.005. and most vaccines don't have that high a concentration. https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/thimerosal-vaccines-questions-and-answers

elizabethonline

elon and trump are about to have a 4+ year diva-off at a scale not seen on this continent since the constitution was written

D

This is good and salient analysis. Respect. I think the bizarre jdv religious/fake trad/childless-women shit directly appealed to the block of sub-35 loner dudes insecurity about their own empty, antisocial lives. It sounded absurd in the moment but I think it hit them hard. Enough for them to get up from their gaming pcs and go vote. Powerful stuff, in retrospect.

Maya B

Biden is now Benjamin Harrison, the president that no one remembers unless they remembered all the presidents in order and had to say Cleveland twice

Carrie H

@corey from birth to age 18, kids are scheduled to receive a total of 72 vaccines. i didn’t believe this until I had kids of my own and saw it first hand. I should add that none of these have been trialed against a placebo.

Carrie H

are you seriously still talking to me??? blood transfusion. intravenous drug use. and sex. that’s it. mothers are vaccinated before giving birth, and there is NO medical reason to give a brand new baby a hep B vaccine in its very first 24 hours of life. Ironically the CDC and FDA agree with me on this. and yet- that shit remains on the schedule. I suggest you read about the simpsonwood conference. or don’t. i could not care less what you think. please go and vaccinate yourself to your hearts content. boost yourself like 10000 times and wear a mask while your at it. ok bye.

Johan Gambolputty

True story, I know a white kid and his parents gave him BARACK as a middle name

dplol

Pouring one out for sleepy 😔

Shiv

jrab go on Otherworld 👁️

Shiv

as a Monarch she can’t

uya

ok the guy who voted for kamala bc he promised his girlfriend was Adam Friedland right?

tapwaterskeptic

I work on the computer and I would never debase myself like this, very embarrassing. "120k isn't shit" googoo gaga bitch

Buttfarts

It isn't shit in my county you fucking dumbass. We don't all live in the midwest we live where we have to for work

Buttfarts

You know any tech jobs in fucking Arkansas you let me know or else shut the fuck up and go suck RFK's dick you floride-deficient troglodyte

Buttfarts

Bet your bitch ass drinks fucking ionized water. Pussy.

Buttfarts

Also I fucked tapwaterskeptics mother

Jose Chavez

I’m guilty of acting like an arrogant libtard as well I was talking about the stock market being good under Biden with some trump supporters when clearly the stock market doing well doesn’t mean anything for myself and the average American

Jose Chavez

I’m not delighted to see her lose but I have been seeing a bunch of liberals saying horrible things about Hispanic men saying that we hate women and that why they didn’t vote for her meanwhile Mexico just voted in their first female president by a landslide

Ivana

You are my favourite baizuo pod! ❤

HK

Did they happen to say anything about creating a better world or would that interfere with being miserable and funny and getting rich off talking into a mic?

Gabe

I cant find a clip of the pod johns drunk on msnbc anywhere. Does anyone have a link?

LizardQueen666

He should have picked Lori “my dick is bigger than the Italians” Lightfoot

smokedpaprika.777

All points made for Kamala’s failure are relevant but black and brown women who are honest with themselves knew she never had a chance in this garbage racist country. Even if she was a solid candidate. Just wanna reemphasize this point as the good whites may neglect how obvious this is.

Carrie H

pointing to the the FDA or CDC as a source of truth is flawed for so many reasons… None of these vaccines were tested against a placebo trial. and none of these vaccines have been tested for long term side effects or adverse complications… once again, for the record.. I am NOT an antivaxer. I am vaccinated and I dutifully vaccinated all of my 3 girls. I am also not a doctor, and I very well could be wrong about everything. In fact, I hope I am. All I know for certain is that my life was very nearly destroyed during the opioid epidemic. and the more I learn about the lies, corruption, and greed that went into making that whole crisis possible, the more I have to question what else the agencies that are supposed to be protecting me and my family could be lying about. I appreciate RFK for being brave enough to push back, and it makes me so sad that we are unable to have polite, civilized conversations/debates without labeling someone a “science denier” or “antivax” or whatever bullshit insults you guys label people with. I hope none of you ever have a child who is hurt by one of these vaccines. imagine what a sad/lonely experience that would be to have that happen, and then to be attacked, shamed, and insulted by a bunch of snotty know-it-alls for simply asking why and how. I hope that never happens... but if it does, I’d be willing to bet that you’d be grateful to have someone like RFK in your corner. We can agree to disagree though. I hope you have a nice day.

K8

Obama’s legacy is prob gay marriage

Natalie

hmmm if democrats want to appeal to trump voters, and trump was much more popular with poorer people, why are DemonRats not appealing to working class voters with policy to help get people out of debt and not live paycheck to paycheck? are they like, dumb or something?

Eric Wiley

How long before Charli’s on Red Scare talking bout how sexy Baron is

Matt Murray

Why is Jimmy Carter voting instead of stalking Frodo?

KY Fried Eggroll

It sounds like your babies got Hep B unnecessarily. I’m sorry that happened to you. You could have safely refused it if you knew you had no chance of having it and passing it on to them. Lots of women do not have the luxury of knowing their status and thus it is a lifesaving vaccine for many newborns. That being said, fuck RFK and fuck Tulsi Gabbard.

Gabe

Timothy Snyder is having the time of his life on X the everything app

MinkL0af

Not enough ‘verb on the buh bye Chom. You gotta give us these things

Carrie H

huh? as I’ve said like 10 times now… I am not an antivaxer… and my children and I are all fully vaccinated. I understand that vaccines save lives and I support them. But there also appears to be a correlation between the uptick in vaccines and autism/chronic disease in this country. going from 1 in 1500 to 1 in 30 for autism cases is something we should probably be curious about right?? Why is that not something that we are allowed to say out loud? and why are you attacking me for saying that I appreciate RFK for being brave enough to do so? it sounds like you are a huge loser… I’m sorry that happened to you.

Chapo Bath House

He's also just so old. If he were just a normal grandfather and not the president of the most powerful nation on Earth, I would say he's doing great but maybe he shouldn't drive anymore

jrab

Shivvy what is that??

Selecao9

Lick my gooch Johnny

Chris

16 years ago we elected a black guy with a dead beat muslim dad who hated america, whos middle name was hussein. I'm sorry but I don't think this is helpful at all. If Kamala ran on Bernies platform she would have won.

Kinetics Video

Harris taking a Xanax out of her purse the size of a manhole cover

Khemith

Big winners: Peter Thiels thralls in his mega basement.

elizabethonline

chat i cannot make this up, my university just called and asked if i was interested in interviewing to be don gaetz’s (matty g’s father) legislative aide cause he just won his state senate race in my district

Natalie

An hour in now and I take it back

Natalie

"let sleepy joes lie" hehehehe

Natalie

u know what u gotta do

smokedpaprika.777

I think you’re delusional to think that. Try to put yourself into the shoes of an average lazy shallow American voter. Obama had mass, easily digestible appeal. Clean cut, charismatic young black man with a simple, catchy slogan of hope. Few made the effort to care enough to look into his background or middle name, even by his second term. A stark and welcome contrast to the Bush administration. People want to stay comfortable in this country. Kamala running on Bernie’s platform would rock the boat too much, she lacks mass appeal for a number of reasons, and absolutely had no chance of beating Trump. You’re missing the main point of my comment.

PP Cool P

undercover gumshoe

Gator lord

brace absolutely RIPPING his vape sends me

Doc Adna

Truanon you guys need to reign in the comments section here, it is going wild

NitroDickclapp III

Yeesh. And Biden goes down as a truly F tier president, of the absolute all time worst. That makes me feel pretty good, he could have bowed out and left with undeserved kudos, he could have gone down as an undeserved hero but he Fd it all up and will now be remembered as an instant F tier. That warms my bleak, black little heart.

Ant koz

everyone understands your point. That we should all remain trapped as voters for the Dems indefinitely. All progressives should hold their nose and vote for the “we are slightly less evil” campaigns as things continue to go further and further and further right… never make a stand for what you believe in or use our votes to apply political pressure. Just accept the best it’s gonna get is voting for people we hate that aren’t even competent enough to win the majority of the time….

gilgachest

You're looking for chapo around the corner mate

Sam Schick

“Lazy shallow American voter” is the exact ideology that’s problematic with the Democratic Party leaders, get out of that mindset and respect your fellow human being. The narrative in the media is that we’re all a bunch of glue sniffing retards, not really the case with 90% of the people I interact with.

Cale

Brace talking about Stu Feiner?! LOL ohhhh that’s wild

absoluteboi

bro what is the fucking motive to push vaccine propaganda? to get people addicted to them? they're expensive to produce and the margins are low, especially when government caps what they're allowed to charge, or negotiates its price for bulk distribution. im sorry you got addicted to smack, that sucks. but to take that experience and be like 'all science put out for the public is bullshit' is not a very intelligent response. im sorry. autism is also way more understood now, and more people are likely to be considered on the spectrum than they were 50 years ago. i get that we're all a little nutty and conspiracy minded to be here in the first place, but fuck dude. go with the ones that make some sense.

absoluteboi

i get that he's threatening this, and he will probably try to kick the tires on it. but i dont think he can get a nearly split congress to approve that war. that is insane.

smokedpaprika.777

I’d need to know where you’re coming from contextually to understand ur lived experience. Care to share more about your social network? 95% of the people I know are respectable, thoughtful, and decisive ppl. But I’m aware that that’s not a reflection of the reality of the average American consoomer. Believe me, I want to live in a world where the average American votes for a leftist or Bernie (progressive) candidate. But that’s not the reality we live in right now. If you want to talk about solutions, then I think we can start by coming up with a plan to make the Bernie platform more accessible and attractive to the American populous.

Jack

get in, hit the tip line, get out

Jack

Oh that's easy though. The cartels are terrorists and/or they're working with Iran-backed terrorists. Just use the same AUMF they've used for everything for 22 years now.

Carrie H

bro I challenge you to read “the real anthony Fauci” or look up the simpsonwood conference and read the transcript from that meeting that was FOIA’d. or listen to RFK on rogan or on theo vohn. the motive is money. It’s always money… and I feel like if you listen to or read any of those things, it might make you question a thing or two yourself. I always thought, and still think hardcore anti-vax people are a little nutty.. but I don’t see anything wrong with being curious. the unhinged vitriol that’s been hurled at me on here for the mere mention of respecting RFK is totally uncalled for and disappointing.

absoluteboi

well i hate to break it to you but youre in the wrong place if you think this is a place to peddle right wing conspiratorial nonsense. when it comes up here it's mainly to contextualize and ridicule it.

Carrie H

no shit?? i did not know that it’s considered “right wing” to be curious about vaccines!?! This is news to me. I agree with every single thing that is said on this podcast and in this discourse EXCEPT for the shit said about RFK and Tulsi… I have to point out that this is the exact attitude that is driving people away from the left. it’s like all or nothing and it’s fucking dumb.

Henry

No one's going through the trouble of altering the constitution for musk of all people. Get a grip

Carrie H

aren’t you sweet ❤️

Jesse

Charli’s lefty credentials are actually pretty solid

Brian Ward

You weren't criticised for being curious, everything you've said is demonstrably wrong, from rfk single handedly cleaning up the Hudson to the 72 vaccines.

jer

What you're missing? The fact that you're an idiot.

Carrie H

tell me what it’s like to be an internet troll?

Carrie H

ok your right. it wasn’t just RFK who cleaned up the hudson… singlehandedly was the wrong choice of words. he is the lawyer that litigated/won the case against the polluters and as a result of his work they were forced to clean it up.. he may not have done it alone, but he is directly responsible for that happening. we can respectfully disagree on the vaccine thing. I am very much open to being wrong about that stuff, as I said, but I have yet to see anything compelling enough to make me think otherwise. Not one of you twats has provided me with a solid argument against RFK or tulsi.. instead you acted like fucking trolls and called me a retard and an idiot as if that’s constructive. Thank you for confirming my opinions of them. its been fun dorks ✌🏻😘

chorchy

so many people are liking but not responding... guess I'll just go ahead then. Ok so there was so much stuff flying around reddit about how Grimes owned a trap house that was super cold, super dangerous, and full of drugs. She has said in the past that she once got frostbite, and whoever was making the post claimed that it was her own house. They also claimed that her friend who was stabbed was stabbed in that house. Apparently there was coke and speed littering all the surfaces. Around the same time (I think, I don't have the posts in front of me so need to #factcheck that), an anonymous post came out on reddit that a lot of people claim is Grimes (the details match up) about being in a relationship with a man who was extremely misogynistic, and the poster almost died during pregnancy because she was having a dangerous pregnancy that her partner refused to take her to hospital for until the last minute. He then didn't help her with childcare whilst recovering from this (these aren't all the details, there's more). then RECENTLY, I see a post claiming that elon had paid people to spread nasty rumours about grimes on social media, relating back to the original post. From everything I've read, he sounds like an abusive and manipulative man to his partners so I wouldn't be that shocked! I'm also an old-school grimes fan so I wanna believe the best. Anyway, Liz, I need you to speak on this like now

jrab

The people who have been doing genocide for a solid year convinced you to vote for them “against fascism”… unbelievably delusional

jrab

Spence, so you think Biden let Israel destroy half of Gaza … so that trump couldn’t get them? I honestly don’t know what you or the rest of the libs think youre fkng talking about on this subject. What about a year of full throttle massacres do you think could possibly get worse?

jrab

Cool, I’ll check it out! Tbf my weird experiences were not really eldritch it was just like traffic + annoying people lol I just figured the date and location were making me feel worse

Shiv

Ahhh! Well, I’m a tad disappointed but stand by my recommendation if such tales are enjoyable to you.

Brian Ward

He was on macrodosing recently (I honestly thought the barstool references were a bit but I guess he likes them, first time I ever listened to a barstool pod so I don't know if they're good bad or indifferent)

Brian Ward

*brace Austin powers voice* 'oh, beehive baby, yeah!'

Clifton Whittaker

I’m requesting a TrueAnon style investigation in the upcoming reverse Jan 6, many libs I know are claiming the election was stolen. I need the Brace and Liz take.

casey w

need briz takes on this starlink fraud conspiracy

Chris

Re: the effect of the Rogan appearance, my dad (58 years old) who was a never trump republican type in the last two elections listened to the trump rogan appearance and changed his mind about trump and decided he would vote for him over Kamala

Onion Billy

Same thing happened when my old pseudo conservative boss listened to the bernie/rogan podcast and decided he wasn’t so far fetched afterall

jrab

Totally! I listened to the new episode on NDEs; very cool!!

Sebastian Moller

Why don’t you pass the time with a little solitaire

John Walker

You guys always talk about the myth that both parties agree with that China stole all the manufacturing jobs and thats why America is in such bad shape today, and we need to combat that. If this is the myth, what is it that actually happened? Is there an episode focusing on this?

David Bond

Remember when 50 Cent challenged Floyd Mayweather to read a page of a book? Good times

mbug96

My roommate from Alabama never got her absentee ballot in the mail 🤷‍♀️

Peter Moriarty

please liz the people need takes on this

MKatieUltra

Just imagine the board game possibilities

tippy

very lazy “reporting” of the news. you used to have more sensitivity and empathy in your episodes about epstein, you would give space and respect to the stories of hus victims. but at this point, the way you talk about TRUMP, is so jokey jokey, not sensitive about the fear from people who WILL continue to be targeted. it may be a joke to you guys, but people who are not cis? straight? and WHITE like yall are going to suffer, and it feels like yall dgaf. talk about the misinformation spread, lack of media literacy in this country, transphobia, rise of homophobia, the abortion bans that are happening, SOMETHING REAL. it sounds like you guys think this is all a joke. is it because you live in nyc? the sucking of trumps dick is wild yall def werent sucking epstein and all the pedophiles like this. we get it, everyone likes trump, do some shit about WHY. WHY does the leader of taliban like him, why do latinos vote for him in droves? its giving cnn, reiterating the news instead of having a discussion and sharing real info. idk its annoying when whiteys mispronounce kamalas name too, so check yourself? re-evaluate? sounds like you just wanted to call her the n word. time for a refresh esp since liz thought kamala would win 😩 and no im not a liberal, just someone living in miami where the girls are DELUSIONAL and ready for blood.

Boostiiyo

50 should run for president

Uso Dayo

NGL Nationalist Hindu twitter is insane

Brian Ward

American corporations offshored and outsourced manufacturing with the help of nixon et al. It's not complicated, it's just that china is made appear to be the villain

chorchy

also if other people have takes on this, please chime in

JK47

Can someone explain to me the social chauvinism thing they are talking about

Wawaweewa

they are marxists tippy and yes you are a lib, from a fellow bipoc true no matter who voter. I hope you enjoy your 9 patreon likes on your patreon comment on a patreon podcast.

James Randall

this is trueanon, and idfk who this comment is supposed to be for. if you want reporting, listen to reporters, not a comedy commentary podcast ffs. of course the girls are delusional and ready for blood, this is the united states. horrible shit is going to happen, and people are going to have to cope while survivng. hope you wiped your ass after shitting your diaper this hard, god damn.

James Randall

ending on "whitey's mispronouncing kamala" this Has to be bait that i fell for like a dumbass, so this is equally embarassing for me.

tippy

cant a girl be bored by a podcast and fired up by an election? anyway thanks for the replies everyone but im over it now u can stop 😩

absoluteboi

shut the fuck up libtard

Jack

damn remember kamala

Tim O'

All I can remember is an empty suit

Lars

Update.. 2/24, and you were right. This shit ain't funny unfortunately. Straight up fascist nightmare.

Matt

There's a non-zero chance I met the Slotkin super fan at my favorite DC karaoke bar tonight (I live here lol). He was an abundance bro who told me he loves Glaucencamp-Perez and told me he was at Welcomefest to do networking.