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Episode 490: Charlie's Angel (Patreon)

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2025-09-22 12:50:04
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The #1 Millennial Conservative Podcast tracks the continued fallout from recent incidents, theories on Israel’s involvement, the hated Kimmel, etc.

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HonestEd

Hell yeah just in time to start the day

dominic

Everyone have a fantastic day! I love you!!!!!!

Gaige Kaser

I heard he once pooped in his hand and clapped

Waleed

Damn we early on this bih

makaela

I love you too!!!!!

LimeSelzer

Couldn’t time it better

christian

take care everyone ❤️

fioe06 t

Anyone else smell shrimp and chicken? Someone cooking...

Sunriser

I love being subscribed to the biggest pro trump conservative podcast true anon

Quinn

New pod drop. Tin foil hat is on. Forks in the microwave. Benadryl overdose. Let’s do this!

Pharrell willames

Commenting on the Trueanon patreon is 100% legal and safe

June

just woke up time to true my anon

makaela

The hat man cometh

Erik Bourre

the fact Net N yahoo even had to acknowledge that Israel DIDNT kill him.. i mean, thats pretty damning on its own no?

Wilian Moreira

It's a great thing that these real true certified american 🦅 PATRIOTS 🦅 are digging into this

Erik Bourre

awe, thx friend! you too!

Noah

I hope everyone here said their daily Charlie Kirk blessing before commenting.

Quinn

PBUH

roz pea

thank goodness for these episodes, I feel like I haven't heard enough about all this in the past week

drewb

Hail Charlie, full of [redacted by the Department of Comedy]

Reece Coren

one podcast. one podcast. you have to do another one this week Brace. this is only one podcast. if you don’t do a second podcast this week I’m telling teacher

Anderson .Paakistan

Erika Kirk sounds like when you try to start an old engine

fatima

yayyyyy

ejj

sing em? i barely know em

Doug Cartel

I guess Bella Ciao is in Far Cry 6 so that seems like a big enough population sample to accidentally run into it

Mungo Franczak

May your memory be a blessing, Charlie. Enigmas never age, and may everyday be another wonderful secret.

Jabroni Ludd

Turning Points? More like Yearning Doinks, amirite???

Mountain Dew Or Crab Juice

Saying my daily prayer to Charlie Kirk before entering my Goonatorium to listen to my favorite conservative podcast

John Lemieux

“Goon office” aka masturbatorium.

Doug Cartel

I mean if you've ever recognized a family members' walking gait from 200 feet away then I imagine a still frame from 5 feet away might give you some confidence in what you're looking at Just spitballing though

Leonora Calzogna

really did not need to recite the transphobic wording from the documents!

Doug Cartel

Computer can we get Ashokan Farewell over that Robinson text message

Graham Hoese

The first time I heard Bella Ciao was in a leftist meme on Instagram. I don't think it's unlikely he heard the song in a leftist context

Katelyn Page

Wow only ten away from episode 500! That’s craysee

christian

also helldivers 2 is populated in part by those really annoying military history kids you knew in high school so i wouldn't be surprised if he knew bella ciao

Corndog

Not for nothing, but calling all cars “vehicles” is common in some parts of the US. It’s similar to saying pop instead of soda.

Kimble

the data shooter, the uprising of the surrealists, the pranksters dance again

John Lemieux

Bella Ciao is apparently also featured in Hearts of Iron 4

Graham Hoese

You are totally right. The kid I knew just popped in my head, -tism fueled war history obsession. He's a leftist now and only posts on Facebook about UK politics... he is American and lives in America lmao. Good guy though

Hunter Saint Hunter

Bella Chao is often sung at modern Italian protests and I hear it a lot in videos of gaza protests. Its also been covered countless times by nerdy bands. Its not like, an antiquity the way the little red hen is. I'm not going to presume if the shooter was or was not etc etc but when all these reports point to far cry 6 ONLY, and INSIST on it, it starts to sound unintelligent from all angles.

Clean Shirt Piggie

Go back and listen to the groypers episode from 2019.

Alex C

ErikaKirk

Brian Ward

He needs to do the damn gun guys episode smh my head

Alex C

ErikaKirk

Alex C

ErikaKirk

Alex C

ErikaKirk

Alex C

ErikaKirk

swervegriffin

I’m sorry not to correct you or anything but from what I know Bella Ciao has been a trending song for the tiktok vaguely left or “left tok” or whatever for a while. I think it started trending on the app around 2020

swervegriffin

I think it’s most likely that he’s like a guy raised in a repressed conservative family that post 2020 got into like online leftism, but also not 100% just the vibe I get

Hugh Jazz

What possible reason could there be for Brace to know either of the possible dates from Summer House lol

Evan

listen, the text messages can be fake and also not created/deployed by the police who took him into custody. the trail left by oswald re: solicitation of anti castro funds was not engineered by the dallas police but it was still engineered, you know?

m

i would consider bella ciao to be a popular tiktok/reels audio. specifically a dance remix (not kidding).

T Sur

1/3rd of people having seen Charlie's video does not mean that AOL, covid era schooling revealed serious gaps in who is online. But it does mean that the A that is OL is OBSESSED with talking about useless people. Including yourselves, congratulations another episode about useless people.

pizzapope

Brace Raytheon Belden?!

Evan

thinking about that section of seth harp's book where the black ops guy tells him that all the sci-fi espionage shit you could ever find in a movie is real and that electronic devices can be easily manipulated. again, not talking about cops here

Hakim Belkouch

I'm pretty sure the Bella ciao song resurfaced to popularity with the Netflix Spanish show Casa del Papel.

swervegriffin

So like essentially gen z American online leftists who have been on tiktok (which is prob a majority) would be very familiar w the song. There’s a lot of like cringe videos with it, and the original source is probably unknown by the people sharing it, but to them it’s just like a revolutionary thing

FairIsleMonch

If only that had one less K. Close to perfect

Your Mum

Growing a butthole on his neck whoaaaa

Matt S

I know I learned of that song and it's meaning from the show Money Heist about 5 years ago

Charles Frum

Could have seen it used in Casa de Papel a few years ago.

swervegriffin

that could have also been the reason it trended on tiktok - sometimes trending songs come at the same time as tv or movies either for marketing or organically

John Lemieux

Plot twist: the rifle did not have a serial number. It was manufactured before serialization was required

Jryce Bohnson

Bella Ciao was a pretty prominent theme in Money Heist. That’s my bet

Charlotte Beck

monday trueanons are back. finally some good fucking food

Emily Bosakowski

Brace knows Jordan from summer house? The Jordan who told weird lies about his sexual encounters on camera and claimed to be the most eligible bachelor on Hinge? The one with ultra Christian parents who pinged everyone's gaydar? Worlds colliding. I hope he's well, and that Brace is a better boyfriend to Jordan then Jordan was to poor Jules

gav

thank god they can’t cancel the millennial jon stewart

Crank

I’ll have you lot know that my roommate whom I date (who is a very gay furry transsexual) has NEVER been an issue for me and my ambitions to eliminate my targets and efficiently dispose my old man’s firearm whilst escaping the scene with my vehicle.

Jake

Brace Rothschild Belden

Gus Frank

It was a, skibidi rifle

Rory

This is all a distraction from the coup in Nepal

Bobby Lasers

I thought Bella ciao was also used by groypers and other neo Nazis to dunk on leftists in a modern context

Alex C

ErikaKirk

Marina

Oooh if people like the America Online bit, I really America Inline (American Grandstand) by Boole - it's the only song I like by them, came out in the wake of 9/11 and seems pretty relevant rn ahah

Peanut Horse

Jesse waters looks so much like Scrappy Doo

John Lemieux

Fun fact Xavier de Rousseau claims to be heterosexual

Nosreffej

Brace Robinette Belden

Brian Long

Full episode deep dive of the furry game like that VR episode plleaseeee

Rory

It'd be hilarious if Brace had to go into exile and the podcast becomes based in Laos

Inge Teloo

can we get another philippines episode ?

HonestEd

I was thinking about that tbh, or like it has a serial number from when it was originally manufactured and there’s no real chain of custody

Brent

Brace, why so horny?

Matt Jolo

Erika Kirk is irking her circ'd up son, Rick.

Michael

Hunting rifle was the exact same kind as the one in parallax view 👁️

Erik Bourre

EUHH... Il take the crab juice!

vermouth

So do u guys believe in anything at all or naw

Pranjal Dwivedi

One reason why the chats sound CIA is because the protagonists are Mormons

D. Elwood

BB is also Bridge Baby, the evidence continues to grow, also Liz finding out about steam is how I feel when she talks about celebrity plastic surgery; like hentai game steam communities are my real housewives

Mungo Franczak

Laughing my ass off at the idea that Charlie fucking Kirk is gonna be the new Horst Wessel. Kirk was a fucking Gen Z Rush Limbaugh, Wessel was a Nazi pimp who wrote a pretty mid anthem. Come to think of it, maybe the comparison isn’t so far off

Wes Rich

I read that too

Wes Rich

You ok? Maybe in need of a hug?

Adrienne Graf

For my Bravo girls and gays, Erica Kirk was on Summer House as a potential date for the most demonic man to grace SH (which is saying something), Jordan Verroi

TrueAnonPod

I’ve never heard of that—where are you reading it?

TrueAnonPod

Conservative principals and values as laid out in the United States constitution

Evan

also possible. just reacting to their "but a case so high profile, the police would never ..." statement. the cops could be dupes. but you're right, there is a type of person who texts like that unfortunately

Jane Allred

I need people to understand that Mormonism is a religion of theater kids.

Joel

i don't think israel did it, but i would certainly like other people to think israel did it

NYCM&AHole

Liz has seen six feet under? Did she also see cannibal corpse? Sekret metal fan Liz going to see polish band behemoth?

Whistle Dog

And his wife looks like him in drag 👁️👄👁️

Mark Owen

Saw an old Mission: Impossible and young Martin Sheen was wearing BB glasses.

Pelican Grief

My man said "jackin' through it".

aw

I thought the person recording during the funeral was Megain McCain

sister love

god i love Psychoanalysis Liz

Clean Shirt Piggie

Why isn’t TA in Florida covering the Ryan Routh trial?

Snacks

The chambering is common (30-06) but the rifle itself (Mauser 98) is not so common. It’s no Remington 700, at least.

ggmacd

Brace is so babygirl

ParagonDeku

People were circulating this idea because the song was on a groyper playlist, but I think it had less than 300 saves. There’s definitely a trend among soyjak.party (“sharty”) right-wingers online in adopting left-wing aesthetics and language in the same way sailors and gangsters adopt a mock-homosexual affectation. Don’t really think that’s what was happening here but also still think it’s too early to call it anything but a guy with eclectic politics.

Bobby Lasers

I think it was on one the recent chapo episodes of one hasan's streams. My brain is a bit of an information soup this past week or 2

Bobby Lasers

That's correct thank you for reminding me. So much crap floating about in my head atm

Woke Batou

My love, my guilt doth place a gulf betwixt our hearts (lmao)

ParagonDeku

I’m still convinced the text logs are either fabricated, heavily editorialized, or it’s a chatGPT summary of the testimony of the roommate. There’s too much weirdness going on, and it would completely wreck the prosecution’s case if they just dumped the actual text logs in the charging doc and tried to present it in court later.

ParagonDeku

The lack of timestamps is extremely telling because the full timeline of events is still murky and timestamps would poke holes in the case if there were potential contradictions later.

Kyle Smyth

I was getting ready to let this go but then that TPUSA guy made a bizarre tweet about Kirk's neck being like super man to explain the lack of an exit wound. It's either the worst cover up of all time, the worst police work of all time, or some combination of the two.

ParagonDeku

Also- on the subject of the furry game, completely possible it was “dabbling” in the sense that lots of young people expose themselves to weird shit on dares or for the sake of comedy. Especially if this guy was a discord user (although the idea that that radicalized him is silly to me), he might’ve played it on call with his friends for a laugh. Could have also just been a furry. Who knows. And I think “who knows” sums up a lot of this shit, including the FBI response.

Treacherous Bussy

“Robinson and roommate”sounds like the most annoying stomp and clap band lmao

Pranjal Dwivedi

Also mention for Six Feet Under from Liz ❤️, possibly the best show of all time.

Throw Away

Furry Shades of Labubu

Dongus

Before the Gun Control Act of 1968, serial numbers on guns in the US were completely voluntary by the manufacturer and were often omitted or not unique to a given gun. You can still purchase pre-68 unserialized Sears/Roebuck shotguns all over the place in the US. Its totally legal to have unserialized firearms in much of the US. For military surplus guns you'll often see mismatched serial numbers (one number on the frame and a different on the bolt/internal-magazine) when parts are swapped by military arsenals or surplus resellers. A ww2 surplus Mauser that was purchased many decades ago may not have a serial number (and even if it did, the serial trace would require the ATF to do a look up of the sales records from importers and resellers that likely aren't in business any more)

Ligma

What I really dont get- if you were going to publically assassinate someone in front of thousands, you would probably assume you would either get caught, or killed, yet it sounds like he didn't write a goodbye letter to his romantic partner? Then says he wanted to take this secret to his grave? Was he completely out of his mind, stupid, or did he have a reason to think he wasn't going to get caught?

shrimpressed

came to say this as well, its so demeaning for no reason

I am become reply guy

A rifle unseen, A bulge, noticed from afar: A butthole shall bloom.

JC

Pompous texting is pretty common among autistic dudes.

Aaron Enold

Thank you brace for making the image of Charlie Kirk dying a little easier to stomach

Clean Shirt Piggie

As true conservatives, TA hosts must say “Israel’s war on Gaza” rather than genocide

Galilayyo

Brace, many people are "foreign funding" you. I am one of them, I send you money every month through Patreon.

Ligma

Ngl it's been really embarrassing seeing grown adults I respect go all in on the Isrehell theory without an ounce of skepticism. Kind of revealed how much "political analysis" is really just content for the mill

Axel

Steam is for PC gaming, it’s a storefront with some community features like posting reviews and having discussion boards

yaro

Bella ciao was used in hearts of iron iv which he had thousands of hours in in steam. HOI is a big game for nazi larpers and edgelords.

justdave

Best comment

N

The convo about steam and furries shows the boomerism of the hosts lmao

elizabethonline

I do get the suspicion surrounding the authenticity of the text messages. And at the same time real zoomers know that this is how you speak to a beautiful woman who is also your roommate when you’re interested in sleeping with her sexually

Vincent

Mamdani not assimilated? He is a former SoundCloud rapper!

ParagonDeku

Very funny to hear Liz incredulously reacting to the “visual novel” label

Joe S.

Theater kids and horse girls.

HP

My first thought on hearing the opening clip was, Netanyahu’s on Cameo?

cmanenarwhale

mousy blonde: angela from the office

Nothingburger Burgerreich

Wholesome Kirk Chungus These memes are really dated. Why no SDIYBT using something chambered in 67? PS I have caught this new disease they’re calling Beldenitis

Ahstin (she/her)

all I can say is 22 yo former "gifted kids" are not generally known for their humility.

Nothingburger Burgerreich

The only places that actively care about the Philippines is this podcast and Foreign Languages Press in France. That is to say i forget it exists sometimes.

Engels in America

Ere Kakurk’s maiden name is Frantzve, she never stood a chance (lol in the 20 min Candace tribute she shows some texts where she and Charlie are making fun of her last name, their forbidden love was so compelling)

Nothingburger Burgerreich

Never heard of it. The internet is simultaneously the most homogenizing thing and the most niche creating thing.

Henry

Psychoanalysis Liz and astrology Liz are exactly the same just fyi

Inge Teloo

follow philippinerevolution.nu

Sean Enright

All those selfie-cam criers just sound like the “it’s real to me dammit” wrestling guy.

mitchell

I think we need a TrueAnon Helldivers stream (purely for research/investigative purposes)

Gato gris

Helldivers rocks

Gato gris

It’s also a big game for leftists to fulfill their “Stalin should have never stopped at Berlin” dreams

Brad

You know who uses so many unnecessary …? My boomer mother. None of this reads as a 22year old texter

Gato gris

I’m not sure if there’s a woman alive who hates video games as much as Liz lol

gnest

you guys need a furry on the show to clear things up

Zane

Infohazard noise

Woke Batou

So is the Belden Plan cancelled now that he's conservative or are we still moving forward with that?

Julian Gricksch

Why do you refer to his roommate as "boyfriend" and "he" when it's a trans woman?

Max Fennig

Mustafa Kemal Erikakirk

Norbur

I love saying Ron Dion.

FA

liz being confounded and disgusted with gaming is my favorite recurring thing on the show I think

Pug_luvr

Liz relationship advice podcast yessssssss

K H

Brb bb

Brian Long

YC throwing in “what about an evening wife” lol

Cal

Bracey put feelers out for Greta 🧐 🤨

Gato gris

I was just about to comment this that joke should have gotten more love

Monster Mittenz

Just putting it out there because everyone I've listened to seems to be confused about the ballistics and there are a lot of conspiracy theories about it. The wound in his neck is small because it's the entrance wound. It bounced off his vest plate, went in through the neck and out the back of his head - you can see it clearly in the video taken from the right side. And the shot is moderately difficult but pretty standard for an experienced deer hunter - you're almost always shooting uphill or downhill with deer and almost never from less than 200 yards. There's nothing weird about the shot itself.

Pug_luvr

Cuz that's an unverified rumor started by bigots

iva antonie

czech girl here - the language isn't even an issue! most people who speak one can understand the other just ok, i think it's almost more like british/american english with some extra steps. czech universities are full of slovak students. like, right now, the main point of slovakia is for czechs to look at their political representstion and go like, "well, we still ain't at the rock bottom ourselves". also, our past and very probably future prime minister is slovak

Breelee King

the rifle unseen I tucked a moonlit burden in the blackberry hush, soft as a secret and heavy as a prayer— and left it where the wild things keep their counsel, so the night might swallow what my hand could not bear. Forgive the copper taste that stays upon my tongue, the way my fingers mourn the shape they used to know; I planted silence like a garden at your gate, and watched the dew unteach the tracks I had to show. If dawn should ask the story of my trembling feet, tell them I was only tending to a timid grief; tell them love was louder than the clamor of my fear, and in the bramble’s keeping, I sought a small relief. Come close—let me fold this fear into your palm, and name with me the softened shape of calm.

Norbur

I think it's unclear/uncertain if the roommate is trans, they mention that half-way through. Honestly, I think considering the way the trump crowd is kind of trying to create a trans bogeyman out of this shooting it's hard to know what pronouns to use

ExtraJudicial Pod

There was no vest plate. A 30-06 stopped in soft flesh should raise some eyebrows.

Ian H

I dunno, I was hoping you guys would wait awhile to cover this, lots of developments between the recording and release of this episode (exit wound, Horst Wessel memorial etc.), I think it's tough for anyone to have cogent or useful analysis of an event like this until a couple months later at least

Ray

holy crap liz is into sports... i thought she was just an nba-er

Maddie

Brace Rodham Belden

K

There’s a Serial-style podcast about a furry chemical attack that I am ashamed (?) to say I really enjoyed, in spite of its “this American life investigative journo” vibes. It’s called Fur & Loathing (lmao)

K

If yall have musical themes for Dershowitz & ghislaine can laura loomer’s theme be Loomer by MBV plz

Gnarly Bro

Checked to see who Erica Kirk went on a date with from Summer House. Of course it’s that guy. It makes too much sense.

Chef n Phelps

Very disappointing to hear Brace misidentify the rifle in the famous Malcolm X photo. It's an M1 Carbine, NOT an M14.

Blank

Re Brace being any kind of orthodox for Candace: if I saw Brace wearing a Satmar hat and robe/stockings, I would d*e happy

Nathan

Maybe I’m underestimating mossad but I think if they were to do a false flag and set up a leftist patsy, they would write pro Hamas stuff on the bullet casings. “If you are reading this you are gay lmao” is the kind of thing a weird kid that spent too much time on the internet would write.

Blank

YC, perhaps ackman and others deserve a theme (leitmotif if you will) a la dersh and ghislaine?

HonestEd

I think twiggs has denied being trans?

Justine Riekena

IDK, I use squad car. Doesn't seem weird to me at all. 🤷 Actually, I'm from Utah too, so maybe it's a regional thing.

Blank

Oh Jinx same thought above

K H

Down bad means hella horny for something.

Rob

YC mouth breathing into the mic :)

Kevin Price

Too good of a song for her

Stevie Nicks

Brace's new podcast, Grappa with Greta

K H

Was the attack walking into a crowded room without washing?

K H

Liz is what makes the podcast straight, while appealing to the gays. The yang to gay pussy eater yin.

Kelson

They aren't trans, the government made that up to go after trans people

K H

We're having fun and Bush did 9 11

Mango Bolsonaro

“Mouse-y blonde” - I think it Angela from the office

Ty

Today I went to the recycling center and I found a BiBi autobiography in the garbage. Made for a great photo. Yung Chomsky is right, cathedrals everywhere.

Kelson

Seriously, and its wild to me how much she thinks she is above gaming and then has endless knowledge about the trashiest reality TV shows on air. Its all just stuff people like to do 🤷‍♂️. I AM A GAYMER, WHY THEY SO MEAN TO ME! (I just play old school rpgs like bg2 though)

K H

She is like Ice T on Law and Order.

K H

NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY'RE TRANS OR THEIR PRONOUNS. Stop.

K H

This is part of the plan.

K H

Furries should be classified as a terrorist organization.

Nico

Baby Bwace Bewden

Woke Batou

I didn't trust the plan, I'm sorry

K H

Yea it's hard to tell. This is a reddit gun queer. The only thing that is weird to me is that he explains it's a big meme. Which is both weirdly expository, but also something a meme kid might say. If the rifle was his grandfather's it should have been simple enough to find who it was registered to at purchase, which makes the whole text exchange kind of meaningless evidence wise. Like they could just say the gun was registered to his "Pa." Kash is a moron though and he fired everyone with experience so who knows.

Flesh Colored Subaru

You know Benjamin "Netanyahu" Mikelewsky is from PA because he keeps calling Charlie KKKirk "Cholly"

lin hou

Tucker Carlson has had on a bunch of guests to talk about Gaza and expose more conservatives to what is happening there which is a good thing. Whatever it takes to get people to know more about it.

Shiv

YC is very sneaky, there was a different one I wanted to shout out but have already forgotten

Shiv

I believe thee Liv Agar pointed this out on QAA for all the non gamer boomers such as myself Liz and Brace

yaro

I said edgelords

Shiv

TIL

Joseph Boyle

Yung Chomsky finally getting a pop for "nasty, brutish and short"

Shiv

as someone who had never seen her face before today, she has intense reality TV face and this is a necessary explainer

Shiv

now you want me to believe sailors are straight?!

Blank

In which Liz comes out as pro-embalming

Shiv

THANK u THIS was the YC sneaky bit I wanted to shout out

Seth Aronovich

It does raise eyebrows. But it's certainly not impossible. I mean, it should be possible to do it all day if you pulled bullets from 7.62x51 frangible training rounds, or got really light .308 diameter varmint bullets, and handloaded them in .30-06. Not that I'm saying some 22 year old fame seeker would be likely to do that.

ploob

YC you gotta get BB to watch Eddington!

Keanu

I know Brace would never because he’s a Christian Conservative but didn’t his friend, Racial Jake, smoke crack with those punks at the furry convention? Or maybe it was a different time but I’m pretty sure it was with those gentlemen.

Ian H

Yeah, I just feel like their contrarian instincts are pushing them to endorse the official narrative in the heat of a fevered moment much more than they would if they were surveying the facts later.

Jesse

Came here to say the same thing. We hear you YC

jay alan

Move over BET… it’s FUBU x HULU time

Erik Bourre

i know YC is the producer, but we ALL know he's the third Mic

Preston Ossman

U know brace has been listening to too much Tucker cause he drops into the curious inflection a lot during the episode

Trees

The Tim Allen Effect

Hannah

unfortunately gay teens who grew up on tumblr and still read fanfiction are in fact texting like that

TrueAnonPod

No way we can do three eps on this cause then I’d start doing the maniacal laughter after saying shit

Ty

Brace Rodman Belden

D G

Hahaha! "They would need probably cause"...As if! Did you forget where you are in the world? Following laws is for leftists. But they're just rules to be made/bent/broken by the right.

Ty

Fubulu

theSmokingGun

I don't think this changes anything, but I'm recalling that bella ciao is in that WW2 paradox game Hearts of Iron IV. If that's his exposure to the song then it is sorta apolitical.

b bordeaux

tbf, also a very popular game w communists who never leave their houses

Pug_luvr

Oh, woah! O, Woe OWO

bill

how tf does brace know creepy Jordan from summer house?

Alexandria

My FIRST thought upon learning her name last week was also... Erikuhkerk !! Errorakurk. Airickikuhrk! It does not work folks. A machine gun noise-ass married name

Darren Kennedy

If you’re taking any aspect of this event at face value, what’s the point? The only thing confirmed about this event is that it happened in Utah.

Claire Simon

If Candace Owens renounced Christianity and wore her hair natural she would be the hottest woman in America

Hardcore Virgin

Correct. They’d write something like “we have anthrax now. Death to America. Death to Israel. Allah is great”

Max

As a 23 yo zoomer I am kind of bewildered, how much people are overanalysing his language and the memes. To me this all doesn’t seem so weird. His exposition is also easily explained, by him thinking a lot, about what he was going to say to his partner.

lugubriousmoron

Used the word polemical in the last episode too

the crazy guy

Thankful for YC, representing the gamer on this one 🙏

Zakir KH

I feel like Chomsky never gets credit for his jokes, fubu, fubo, fupa was funny as hell

i shyr

“Charlie and the Hummus Factory”

Isaac

You even did the 5-7-5 ❤️ beautiful East meets West moment 🧑‍🦼🧭🥷

Isaac

I stole this: "my beloved Jessica, I write to you today from our camp at Gettysburg. We prepare now for battle on the morrow. I fear I shall not survive. I have inscribed on my musket ball "ur gay! Lmao" I trust it will find it's Mark."

mexicanhalloween .

oh, so they half-assed crafting a Lee Harvey Oswald for this

Ducky

i just took a tylenol before this episode and now i'm

Mary Jane S

I am in my 30s and was in a lesbian relationship recently and my gf texted like that lol

Budget Hireling

Just started Twin Peaks and the theme song makes me feel so cozy now.

Jacob King

Netanyahu understands that the more bandwidth devoted to “Israel killed Charlie” the less space there is for “Ground Invasion of Gaza City”. It’s a way to paint all his enemies as kooks.

Ant koz

Dwade statue is so sick it looks completely insane. Need hoops content Liz!?! Hawks offseason? East wide open? Top 4 in the west? Liz spinoff nba pod? Do dreams come true in this dark world?

Brendan Mahoney

These texts messages are so obviously AI generated

Isaac

That protest confuses the shit outta me. So far what I’ve gotten from Marxists claiming to be there is that it’s a decentralized youth protest (?) against a democratically elected… Maoist government (?) that is somehow not a CIA sponsored color revolution (?) So many question marks. I guess we’ll see how it shakes out.

ploob

🤞🙏🤞

Tooffixer

I have been saying this for years. Czechs, Slovaks YOU ARE THE EXACT SAME!!! This also goes for you every Balkan state. It’s honestly pathetic that the most similar groups of people of all time couldn’t figure out how to get along

Quinn Redman

Jimmy Kimmel DOES have a podcast

Jo

not enough people are talking about this

Lojban Chauvinist

Zoomer here too. I've always texted in a similar style to Robinson, and as friends and family can confirm, I have the profile of a young white male "shooter with apparently incoherent politics and motivations that the media struggles to make sense of in the aftermath of the attack." (To be clear, I am not and have never been violent: I'm just easily typecast.)

Lojban Chauvinist

So you're right, but with that said, there are still some very odd things in the texts. I don't believe they were faked, but it behooves the FBI to release a fuller, timestamped transcript.

Schwartz666

Methinks thy Bibi doth protest too much

Lojban Chauvinist

Not gay, never been on Tumblr, never read a page of fanfiction, but technically am in the same generation as Robinson, and I've kind of always texted like that.

Lojban Chauvinist

It's funny how people assume that memes, jokes, or irony make an act apolitical. The youth – both sides, every corner of the political-compass chart – have been trained to cloak their sincere opinions in "lulz" for a decade and a half now. It's very likely "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and "Bella Ciao" are exactly what they look like, the words of a liberal opposed to what he saw as Charlie Kirk's (RIP) "hate." It's especially ironic that TrueAnon would be attached to the notion of Robinson's "apoliticality," when the show itself displays the same combination of sincere, radical political beliefs with playful misdirection and layers of ironic references and jokes. That's crystal clear in this very episode, where Brace and Liz pad out their actual points with comedic/ironic bits about being an adult baby, false claims of being a conservative show, insane gross-out jokes about Kirk's fatal wound, etc. etc. etc.

Kevin Boyle

The funniest episode ever: Liz - the most urbane and jaded millennial coded podcaster ever - being scandalized and sounding insulted by the description of Furry Shades of Gay and confused about furry lifestyle - amazing.

cl

They're so fake.

——

Neri oxman, holy shit, stunner

ERIC

Corruption of the elite class happens regardless of politics. Something similar is brewing in the Philippines with flood funding embezzlement. (Outside of the other issues covered here on anti communism/Muslim behavior in the south).

ERIC

The events of this are so suspicious all of the conservatives I work with are having a hard time regurgitating the media narratives.

Justin

Saying “Gaza war” three years into a genocide is pathetic

Fran

Love YC’s little giggles throughout this one 🥰

Chas Padunski

Until I heard he was a furry, I found the txts dubious. But anyone who has interacted with furries or LARPers knows that’s how they all type. Either astonishing FBI research or those babies are real.

ben spons

Greta slander will not be tolerated!!!!!

enpriestess

bella ciao became kinda popular on tik tok thats likely where he heard it

Tea for the Tillerman

In other political assassinations and quasi Christian cults news, Moonies leader Han Hak-ja was indicted today in Seoul on charges of bribing the ex wife of disgraced prime minister Yoon. The widow of eponymous unification church leader Sun Myung Moon was wheeled out of a black Kia Carnival and into Seoul central district court Harvey Weinstein style.

jengatoads

Laughed out loud when I saw what that Ariel lady looks like. You can’t talk like that Jewish looking baby

Mood Slut

Every day, in every way, we are getting deader and deader

Brian

Also, very popular among groyper gamers

Ella West

The rifle unseen. Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.

Z F

I think she meant the tv series

ERIC

Oh can you guys talk to president Mullen and see if regular car reviews guy is available for off the record discussion? He may be able to provide you with some insightful furry info.

Chapo Bath House

Does anyone remember which episode they talked about Eyes Wide Shut and the pilled Kubrick theories?

Schwartz666

lol For real? Can't begin imagine the sickos that would listen to that shit...

Areti

They almost always use deadnames and wrong pronouns when discussing transwomen :/

Areti

Like in the Zizian eps

Schwartz666

"The new flesh is everybody" Jfc... Hearing people talking seriously about and quoting the Bible on a podcast is so bizarre.

Rebolledont

after 'bella ciao' was engraved in one of the casings, we shouldn't rule out that robinson was a fan of the number one hit international netflix series 'money heist'

Ghordo

People really need to figure out how to use they/them to literally keep things neutral in these situations.

Ghordo

He probably just got himself caught up in confusion and fear. Having a plan is one thing but actually doing it is another, especially if it involves taking another person's life. The fear and dread from the ensuing consequences can make someone erratic as hell.

MoldyTolge

1:13:22 “I have to ejac-object to that” -YC

MoldyTolge

That whole Money House series also juiced it several years back

MoldyTolge

Highly underrated concept

A Sentient Katamari of Bad Life Decisions

The thing with the nickname "Bibi" is that it, likely intentionally, perfectly represents the position in Israeli society that he wants to fill. Old uncle Bibi, the stern uncle that goes a little too far sometimes but ultimately has his heart in the right place. It's quite detestable really.

🔻

My entire day has been been centered around butthole neck joke, you broke my brain brace Thank you

Joey Joe

Bluey mentioned!

Adrien x Julian

Please don’t be racist towards furries

gatito

By that exact logic, more than likely he was a… fascist?? (at the end of the day I think what TA are getting at is the futility of trying to pin him with a specific ideology when we are confronted with a disjointed mix of disparate meme references that are popular with far right circles and potentially left ones as well?

gatito

czechs and slovaks must have more in common than oregonians and californians, but you don’t see us trying to balkanize… oh wait

kallampero

22yo gay furries don't one-shot-one-kill dudes in the neck from 124 yards away. sorry not sorry.

JBVance

My favourite dynamic, two boomers learning in real time about gaming/nerdy stuff form their cooler friend. 🤩

Natalie

Even tho it doesn’t exactly sound like him there’s sth about Brace’s Netanyahu voice that is so uncanny it’s like he’s channeling him. Sent a chill down my spine ngl

Mo

If they have Charlie Kirk lie in state they should include a fountain at the carotid artery.

Andre

Famous “liberal” slogans bella ciao? What’s with the shell game here. If it is the case that he’s dating his girlfriend who is trans, an explanation that he simply didn’t like Kirk’s “hate” towards his lover is a complete one. It’s said that things done out of love take place beyond good and evil.

Sam zzz

EriKKKirk

Andrew

The mother of one of the Iwo Jima flag raisers recognized her son by his butt and was right even though the marines said it was someone else.

drewb

Be Right Brace

Tom

I produce and host the podcast "The Greater Y'all", lifestyle tips for the restofus. Liz, would you like to come talk to us about how to use social media apps?

CJ

Agree, it's "m'lady 🎩" type shih

Arid

Most furries just look at furry art online and may have a personal character (fursona) that's usually just a username and profile picture. And yeah play games/visual novels like you saw. The dressing up in suits is a significant minority because the suits are insanely expensive and all custom-made. Also very difficult to clean so fucking in them is a minority of that. People don't really think that they are animals or not human or whatever. Besides very very fringe people on twitter

CJ

The only way I'll believe the texts are fake is if Robinson somehow gets the Epstein treatment in jail and we don't get to hear any more from him in court.

CJ

Is there any conspiracy theory on the roommate being Mossad or the impetus in some way, like are people looking into them? I'd be interested in that as a possibility maybe...

Abbas Araghchi

Okay not to be the woke of the day but why the fuck are yall misgendering the roommate so much

Nina L

yeah i still love TA but it sucks to see that they won't connect some of the media framing of the zizian thing and this shooting to the current right wing campaign to deprive trans people of their dignity and rights. :(

Leonora Calzogna

i have had moments of doubt before but at this point i cannot believe that these people respect my people. i will have to find something else to listen to.

Leonora Calzogna

the lack of caution - no instinct to be neutral with pronouns, and worse, contributing to spreading this person's legal name for zero benefit. there is nothing to be gained and only harm to be risked.

St. John Whittaker

The community features of steam are essentially vestigial because discord integration is so advanced. You might find a community centered around a particular game on steam but the community page will probably just link to the discord

Evan Scott

p sure the rifle was a war trophy/bring back that was custom sporterized, this was a very common practice in the post war period so while the rifle would be very commonplace in one sense it would also be unique just by definition because the sporterization would've just been done by some guy (possibly his grandfather himself) also while it would have an original serial number it probably was never registered with the ATF or whatever and given a US serial number. You always see an electropenciled serial number along with the importer's name on more modern military surplus imports. The original manufacturer's serial number doesn't really mean anything for regulatory purposes

Evan Scott

if the rifle was a bringback and kept in the family its entire existence there would be no real legal record of it existing

Jessica

the amount of times we call the partner boyfriend is not fun to listen to lmao

B b

The Kimmel clips was 2 mins long and you guys couldn’t bother to watch it before recording this? Reading the text of a half monologue is lazy slop. The second half of the monologue you didn’t watch is Kimmel playing a clip of Trump changing the subject from Charlie to his big beautiful new ballroom and undermining the martyr narrative Miller is trying to build up. That’s why Kimmel got fired

eza

could we get yung chomsky back into a non speaking role? this mf is never funny or adding anything interesting to the conversation. thanks for explaining the difference between prequel and predecessor

Tone Bug

I think it was probably the “construction stage of grieving” joke that got Kimmel cancelled, cause it specifically targeted Trump and used his likeness in a clip (and was quite funny) Yall analyzed the setup but not the punchline!

Deanna Turcotte

Can someone please explain what Liz was alluding to regarding these hoards of conservative Zionist gays? Like where are they lol I didn’t understand that part

Clark Stoehl

Crazy how unequipped they are to discuss the shooter. No understanding of any of the culture this kid was inmeshed in, from furries, to pc gamers, to even just middle Americans. They're calling it the most /k/ shooter of all time

Monster Mittenz

Of course she did, it's great publicity 👍

Bobby Lasers

Kimmel is back already. Autism is defeated, trump hate Tylenol for some reason.

Axel H.

Because they don’t accept the narrative that Twiggs is trans, which seems to come only from the government and Robinson’s mother.

Axel H.

They literally explain that they don't believe Twiggs is trans.

evie

Idk feels kinda bad faith to fixate on this in the context of literally all their coverage of the genocide

JBVance

We-ho cis, white gays... They were first on Instagram explaing why Israel is the best. It is engraved in my mind what one of them said: "If you didn't had opinion about Palestine before October H8, you shouldn't have opinion now".

Andrew

The sepoy mutiny was partially about pork and bullets too I think. The British greased the cartridges in animal fat and it was common to rip cases open with your teeth, which the sepoys were pissed about. Though that’s always just the furious factoid, there’s a bunch of other very good reasons too.

Lojban Chauvinist

> Famous "liberal" slogans bella ciao? Yeah I think that's a fair characterization. Antifascism wasn't just a Communist thing then (though they did it best), and it's still not now. Plenty of room in the "popular front" for liberals who care more about bodily autonomy and sexual freedom than about redistribution. I think it's a fair to suppose love was a motivation, but in contemporary American culture, it's difficult to avoid being drafted into the culture wars. When one side welcomes you and another side hates you, tough not to take sides. One side is liberal and sees the other side as fascist

James

we know nothing about Twiggs preferred pronouns

Jessica

thats not for a while later lol

Jessica

sure but you dont default to he/him and boyfriend

James

none of us knows Twigg’s preferred pronouns

James

it’s been less than 2 years btw

fried egg

walking into gaza purse first

fried egg

also want to say as a trans person it is frustrating and feels bad to hear the pronoun mixup but i think it is just brace and liz unsure of both how lance identified and how to refer to them in the case that they are Not in fact a trans woman. defaulting to they/them is still kind of sticky for some people, even those that don’t like, actively hate trans people

Jordan

Brace on the View (best part of the episode and also the best dream for reality)

Jordan

Trying to figure out what EXACTLY is so funny about embalmed black hands and accidental FUBU confusion to YC and BB…

ERIC

Entryism is abound on the comment section today. Really trying to get us worked up about the casters over hearsay and identity politics. Brace is offensive on purpose every episode, but this is the fine line?

Jessica

seems that you are the one getting worked up eric

Marcelle Roulin

“What about an evening wife 😏” I see you YC

earthlandingfake

I think Bella ciao is featured prominently in the video game Far Cry 6, which could absolutely be the primary reason it was known about by the shooter.

Embla

it's deadening knowing this is the best cis people can get, constantly misgendering a girl because the government gave them permission

Dinosaur

Yeah, being a furry is not always sexual. There are a HUGE amount of people who just like dressing up like an animal and hanging out with other animals. But Brace and Liz just don't understand alternative communities. Like any of them.

Selene

the bella ciao song was viral on tiktok bc of the tv show Money Heist

Luis

So the rapture was today and I saw NOBODY going up. Lol we're so naughty

SecretMoon

I would love an episode about Steam/Valve from you guys, specifically their Marketplace (and the underaged gambling economies it enables) and the insane libertarian corporate kingdom goings-on in the gaming industry.

jer

Sounds like a guy who dresses up and pretends to be an animal so he can fuck other people dressed up and pretending to be animals lol

Zzz

Exhaustion is all a part of the plan baby

Maya B

I really don’t see anything surprising about the way this guy texts and how he’s telling on himself. He’s talking like he’s having some kind of manic episode and/or delusions of grandeur. He found out Kirk was coming to town and had an idea of the campus and figured he could have the chance to do something “big”. And they could look at other conversations he’s had to compare styles. I have known plenty of nerdy and often neurodivergent guys who write in a hyper formal way especially when talking to their significant others, it partly what indicates the delusions of grandeur/moral high ground to me.

David Grier

I feel the same way about people who sit in front of a tv while looking at their phones as Liz does about people who play video games. I think it's fine if we don't bridge this cultural divide.

Tom

If you come on our podcast I promise we'll give you all the time you want and/or need to explore your Orson Welles crush.

sarah

We got a real smaht guy in here!!!!

sarah

Girl….

Hayden

Been saying “erikakirk” all day

James Kent

YC, “nasty, brutish and short” is insanely goated lol

Dinosaur

Amazingly smooth brain on this one.

sarah

Honestly this is super helpful info, thank you Jane doll

sarah

As with Jane’s comment, this is informative!

sarah

Titty Penis

The wazzzzaaapp bud light dude

“Uhhh he was changing his views on Israel” is the “they will greet us as liberators” cope of the groypers. I think Charlie at best was finally reading the winds: the cultural revolution of the right will be the project of Fortress America/Europe/The West vs the evangelical Zionist base.

ERIC

Idk just seems like people only ever chatise leftist patreon podcast hosts for not abiding by perfect adherence to everyone's identity politics. Like, maybe lets keep the comment section to jokes about doxing babies.

Selecao9

Brace, I got a UTI so I now not only understand you but also women

Jessica

join me brother: www.indeed.com

RockFishReaper

Not that it matters at all, but in the picture of Malcom X in the window, he is holding a M1 Carbine not a M14 as Brace mentioned

Alaric

Yeah I kept thinking to myself wtf why are they insisting on referring to this person as a boyfriend?? After awhile they did a half hearted 'well we dunno much about this person' but hell guys you could've just used gender neutral language to refer to one of the most scrutinized people in America right now, it ain't that hard

Gaby P

Anyone know where to get discord link??

Marcus

I have a sibling named BB. Not Bibi, not B.B., just BB. It stands for nothing, our mother has given no explanation, his father has given no explanation. Just one of the joys of being from rural Alabama.

b bordeaux

also was a bit put off by that but i do understand their rationale that we don’t know whether or not his partner was actually trans, just that the government (who has a clear agenda to somehow pin this all on trans people) has said they were. would really have preferred house style to be they/them pronouns tho!

Chris

At this point I would be surprised if Twiggs is trans. There is more than enough evidence showing the trump administration wants to push the idea that a trans person is involved, so painting the romantic partner as trans is an easy way to continue to push that narrative.

AuuA

My take on the Bella Ciao thing as a person of gamer experience is that there’s a guy who is somewhat popular who records himself singing it on proximity mic in multiplayer shooter games as he headshots people and it totally could be a reference to that and also HoI4 because this guy is so band kid gamer type and they loveeeee HoI4

Stevie Nicks

I hope Yung Chomsky isn't too critical, I know he is picky about scansion Crack, cacophony screams Slice, carotid artery cleaves Instantly, contrived images retrieved Resolve, a cherished lover deceived Chicken coop, stashed The rifle unseen

ERIC

As a conservative podcast listener I can only click on red hyperlinks.

Horse Badorties

Holy shit I had no knowledge of BEEB Pidgin

Horse Badorties

Is 'all hail the new flesh' form Video drone a biblical reference?

Schwartz666

Oh shit! I think you're right.

Isabella Ulate

I can’t get over the imagery of the “funeral” with the pyrotechnics entrance 🥴🎇

Horse Badorties

Black women's hair is insanely socio-anthropological

J

As far as I know there’s still literally zero evidence the roommate is transitioning, not that I disagree with your point overall.

Evan Scott

I mean, literally, honestly. I have an M1911A1 that my great uncle.... decided to not turn in to the arsenal after his service in both Europe and the pacific and my dad has a mauser .32 pocket pistol that that same uncle brought back. They're both pretty valuable but are also family heirlooms that we could never imagine selling

Horse Badorties

The Nepalese regicide of 1995 is the most insane thing in modern times

Evan Scott

Which honestly makes me pretty well understand why Robinson was so concerned with retrieving the rifle even outside of like, incriminating himself

Joey

Finally… Brace Redcorn

Samantha Geovjian Clarke

hearing Brace and Liz try to make sense of the world of romance games and visual novels was absolutely priceless. if anything ever happens to me it would be my greatest honor for them to read my reddit comments about my otome games aloud on the podcast and try desperately to understand what the fuck was going on there

Samantha Geovjian Clarke

as much as I would love that too I don't think they understand games well enough to get very far.. they'd spend the first half of the episode just being baffled by the basic concept of Steam itself

Joey

FUBU!??!??

Ina S.

more and more I really get the sense that these hosts don't like us trans people (esp. Brace)

bobore

I'll call him Lou.

Eric

FUBU + Hulu merger of the century

bobore

Is the inability to say any meme or pronounce anything correctly or feigning ignorance of an incredibly large online platform that is over 20 years old a bit? It's a bit, right?

bobore

I refuse to believe they couldn't understand. This stuff has got to be a bit. Steam like 20 years old.

bobore

Furries are transhumanists

Cameron Young

I’ve gone back and forth on this and I’ll just weigh in a bit and say - the ones from Utah might.

Max Fennig

Has the roommate even been confirmed to exist?

CJ

Damn you're a month early for October H8th, H8er

LET ME DELETE MY ACCOUNT YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES

I dont think anyone should be surprised how fast this guy will be forgotten about completely. Heck, most people dont know who he is already, and those that found out from the event itself have moved on. Parasitic liberal media will obviously want to keep it alive, much like they helped create the guy in the first place. Keeping people railroaded into particular inconsequential online minutia is the "pizza party instead of a raise" of online politics. An American loudmouth is a dime a dozen.

MoldyTolge

I do remember on like… episode 4 they interviewed some guy and immediately acceded to his position that we never went to the moon because of the Van Allen belts. Always wanted a return to that topic

MoldyTolge

I think it needs to be a sample about cooking crack cocaine

Hna

Had to scroll too far to see this. My first thought has always been Money Heist and that psycho Berlin.

Cameron

Brace and Liz really sounding like boomers in this one lmao

Tryg

Just for the record, I categorically deny any involvement in the unalivement of St Charles of the Shatner.

Evan Scott

isn't steam a pc thing only? even by the time i stopped playing video games in high school over a decade ago, there were only a couple of games that i had to register on steam (which i had bought physical copies of) to play online. i honestly had no idea there was a social aspect to steam beside being able to use it to voice/text chat while playing online. video games are not a default hobby for people over 30 and pc gaming especially is pretty niche

K H

It's great. Look how far QAnon took us. If it can finally sever us from Israel, so be it. Candace Owens being useful for the first time in her life.

K H

Throat GOAT

alex

liz i’m so sorry you don’t deserve to spend mental energy learning about furries

Natalie

He prefers the medium of the tweet.

Natalie

Sure but also were they supposed to become toxically online furries in the last week. I think most people were scratching their heads over this bro. I find the confusion charming and even a bit relatable and silly

Pat

I doubt they were first

Pat

I’ve listened to this pod since 2019, it’s not “identity politics” lol

Maya B

I think gaming culture in some ways is similar to punk culture, having a range of subcultures and personalities and ideologies within it. When you use the worst examples of that culture to represent the whole group, it isolates people further. I’ve learned a lot about different subcultures from listening to the show which is really cool. You don’t have to totally understand gaming culture or praise it but I think having someone on the show who does understand the ecosystem and the nuances within it would be nice and maybe be a way to bridge the gap and be less isolating your fans who are part of that community.

Maya B

Actually, I said gamer community, but I think the same applies even more so for queer communities.

Kaden

I'm gonna toss my hat in the ring here and say I actually don't think it's important to bring a gaming culture expert on to the show

Zoe G.

I appreciate that the trans-ness of the roommate/partner is being speculated to be FUD and maybe that's true but I do wish y'all hadn't taken that as carte blanche to refer to them as the "boyfriend" and "he", this would be a find time to use gender neutral language.

ERIC

But after you shot someone and are cartoonishly hiding in the bushes?

Barry

no wahala <3

M D

Lmao! Forgot to switch accounts!?

Mads

How so?

Zoe G.

No I was replying to a evidently now deleted comment

Chiral

off topic, but rewatched the VR chat recently , absolutely hilarious lets get a re-visit!

Maya B

When they’re more and more often talking about gaming culture and how it’s the source of a ton of our problems? Seems reasonable to want to hear from someone with actual knowledge on the topic when they do that for everything else like drugs and tech?

the crazy guy

Kirk sounds distressingly much like David Foster Wallace in that clip.

Eli Jennings

Now Braces IG stories make sense. I thought he was having a mental breakdown

Christopher Price

Yung Chomsky's job is to know normal things known by normal people. like, he's probably the only one that knows what a store brand 2% gallon of milk costs.

harpy

type of episode that makes you remember brace fought in a u.s. and israel backed rojava faction

Lisa

I assume someone said this in one of the 500 comments but Bella Ciao is used in the game Far Cry 6. I also teach 20 years olds, and it strikes me as extremely implausible that the shooter’s referent was the historical Italian anti-fascist movement instead of this video game (or TikTok versions that themselves refer to the game).

Christopher Price

the Czech/Slovak thing is funny because it comes down to the fact that they were colonized by two different halves of the same empire. the Austrians ran Czechia, while the Hungarian half of the Hapsburgs controlled Slovakia. this meant differences in development. the Austrians were more tolerant of czechness, which wasn't true of the Hungarians, who view Slovaks the same way the English view the Irish. this led to Czechs being more cosmopolitan, better educated and more industrial, while Slovaks were either miners or peasants. the post WW1 nation was a marriage of convenience because it would make the former masters think twice about invading. the Hungarians invaded anyways, but mostly because the Hungarians exist to make the Poles look clever. it was always headed for divorce because the Czechs are intolerable snobs towards the Slovaks. like, the 1968 Euros should be credited to Slovakia, since Slovaks made up the spine of the team+ manager. the Czechs contribution was a fancy penalty kick.

Christopher Price

and if this isn't complicated enough the Czechs are actually two different people -- Bohemians and Moravians. Moravians are chill.

Sara Z.

In fairness you’re hard to like!

Sara Z.

And who is the girl in question?

Sara Z.

Check out the tel aviv twink terrorizer Daniel Ryan Spaulding for a case study

Sara Z.

“Bibi” is Israeli twee humanising nonsense and I physically shrivel every time I hear a non-chosen person call him that

Sara Z.

Also those chat logs read to me as two autistic gamer guys, we all have a cousin that types like that

CC Lemon

Jimmy kimmel resurrected like a jesus

K H

Yo...you're tellin me these guys get off on crouching and uncrouching over their defeated opponent multiple times and call it Tea baggin? What's the world comin to?

K H

He literally almost got away. Like Luigi he basically was recognized and turned in because he just waited around like a dumbass(allegedly obviously). If he filed the serial number off he very well might get away. Apparently the gun might not even have a serial number, so if they can't lift prints or something off it then no physical evidence ties them to the crime at all.

K H

😎👆👆

K H

You had my attention. NOW you have my interest

K H

Thaaaaats why I hate his face.

K H

Seems the most plausible. That makes sense why they haven't said it was his then. If they have no prints and he doesn't confess he might be found innocent. This is crazy. They only have the texts...

DarylBarenziah

Brace could tame Candace. Liz is in love? Mentioning another man on the side. And this show was named after a gif I sent the crew about something unrelated. Good shit yall! Love it, stay sane. I think people are coping and miller is about to send us to the camps for liking Stalin.

DarylBarenziah

It is good we can go see Lenin. Dude these communists were literal saints. Angels from heaven to bring about the mandate of salvation and prosperity while the letcherous lictors of the fascist mercenaries for capital suckle the teet of the algorithm all for the calamity and crisis to reign about the kingdom of pandemonium and Satan.

DarylBarenziah

But it does mean communists go to heaven. Pergatory is for the libraahls

Ghordo

When in doubt, use they/them. It's literally the most neutral thing you could do in this situation.

bundaga borbo

hey man i think those historical figures serve more as loci to examine socialist ideology, and to understand within their historical contexts rather than to deify, at least on the left. i think leftists are more sincerely concerned with the literal writings of people like lenin and how to use them today, you know? what you're seeing isn't leftists trying to consecrate their memory, they're just responding to how resoundingly hot stalin and lenin were. i, personally, would.

Ligma

Cmon that's unnecessary

Mungo Franczak

Idk what the fuck the dude below me is on about, but I think embalming and displaying corpses is just cool as fuck. Kinda like what you guys were getting at, you can go and SEE Lenin.

Pat

These people are dreadful but they are a minuscule number of washed up personalities. Liz implies they have a base among the gays…I have only really seen significant lgbt involvement in Palestine movements.

Blake

I don’t think it’s “high risk, low reward” to fabricate the text messages — not if your goal is to generate a narrative. They don’t even need to convict this guy, they just need people to believe he did it, and that he was a left winger.

Gaby P

Some furries poop inside (not in toilet)

Katana King

What about an evening wife

rough customer

As a guy about the same age as Tyler with some exposure go the autistic gamer/queer shut in community, the texts are very believable. Kinda crazy how you guys misgender his partner throughout the entire show.

K H

You don't know their gender.

K H

Do you think the roommate who's gender you don't know will hear this? Also, like race, only police can decide gender.

K H

Crazy. So his family basically fucked him(allegedly). TrueA gun community really coming through with good info.

K H

Police decide race and gender. Go be annoying somewhere else cuh she ain't gone see this.

Edith Caufield

You guys gotta get someone under the age of 40 on this show to understand some things lol

Yung Chong Wick

Good ep, let’s get even more mentions of Max Blumenthal and the Greyzone though!!!

grantsh

Screaming "eriKaKaKirk" at my phone. Easy one. P.S. I disavow.

Nell

Therians. Google it.

djeorge

On Steam it's not that uncommon to gift a straight friend a gay dating sim that's on sale for 2 dollars just for a joke. Probably cherrypicked to contribute to the "gay satanic trans leftist" narrative

Carlos

I feel like it’s just hard to swallow the fact something so “dumb” is making so many people insane. I’m not talking like one to one “CoD makes kids killers” but the expansion of gaming cultures into shut-in subcultures. You’re totally right but maybe it doesn’t feel right to admit it.

nick b

Never identified with Liz as much as when she's trying to name all of her streaming service subscriptions. start an nfl pod liz

Curvy Carlene

I don’t think Israel had Kirk killed. But I do think his “evolving” relationship with Israel was more significant than you’re making it. I don’t consider Grayzone a reliable source of information. But this was also echoed by Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson-that the Zionist lobby tried to give Kirk a lot of money to be more vocally pro-Israel to his TPUSA audience. And Kirk told them to fuck off. And in the weeks leading up to his death he said he was getting harassing texts and calls to his personal phone multiple times a day. If true, that’s disturbing. A lot of people saw his appearance on megyn Kelly as the 2 of them being picked on by other right wing influencers for not being The Most Zionist. But I don’t think so. I don’t think Kirk wanted to call the AIPIC/ADL/Netanyahu machine out by name. Because he was scared. He certainly didn’t do shit to help Palestinians. But given his beginnings with Horowitz etc., I think him refusing the money is significant. https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-netanyahu-israel-assassination/

K H

It's not edgy it's true. Many a Black man has found that out the hard way. Oh you're Cuban Samoan? Hands on the squad car. Race is even more a social construct than gender, yet you can't incept yourself into being another race than you're perceived as. As soon as White dudes decided they wanted to be women it suddenly became paramount that everyone use the exact right words to discuss them in 3rd person. Social constructs are decided by those with power, not those you have easy access to annoy. If cops don't think you're a woman, then you aren't. If cops don't think you're White, then you aren't. If that doesn't make sense, log off.

Mildred

JUMPSCARED by english pronunciation of Bombardier

Alaric

go back to red scare asshole

A Yee

Liz shouldn’t have to know what a visual novel is……..

K H

ain't that deep lil bro

Brennan

u don’t trust grayzone but u trust megyn kelly😂

Alex

I wouldn’t agree that they don’t like trans people but it is weird that they find it so hard to use the correct pronouns for the shooters girlfriend

Alex

You’re weird Sara

Chapo Bath House

Idk, some of the weird language choices come off as Mormon coded

mbug96

Can you guys talk about the movie Snake Eyes lol

Aubrie

As a 22 year old, chronically online leftist, he 100% knows bella ciao from tiktok

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Yeah that guy tracksuitopera? First thing I thought of

Dean Watson

“I don’t consider the grayzone reliable” weird because I don’t find random social media accounts that cast aspersions without documentation reliable.

Dean Watson

Not only that but they’ve long captured the telecoms. There’s no way to believe they couldn’t create it from inside the telco, secret rooms etc been long established…. 🫡

TM

We have no idea what gender his partner identified as - or even if they’re actually his partner

TM

the American left is so cooked

TM

We literally have no idea what pronouns that person uses

TM

shhhhh

TM

Shhh

TM

Shhh

TM

Shush

TM

Shush

Ada

yes!!!

Agent Dana Scully

Not Liz calling a trans woman "boyfriend"..........

Court Hansen

Is the sound weird on this ep for anyone else?

Killer Dan

what’s weird for me is the use of all of the old ass milsurp rifles now that trump is in office - back in my day mass shootings happened with a tricked out AR15 the way god intended

Gumboot

I think that she didn’t know if the transition status was confirmed. It’s kinda like Aaron Bushnell (that guy who lit himself on fire for Palestine) we have reasons to believe he was trans closeted but since he never explicitly declared it himself we just respect the pronouns he publicly used. As of the upload of this episode the identity of the roommate was still ambiguous though. But I do understand what you’re saying I immediately noticed when Liz said that. They have never intentionally misgendered a person on this show (especially ones that have committed a crime of some kind) and I have heard every episode.

Gumboot

I think that’s weird too. Maybe it’s like a sheer number thing? We have mass shootings like literally every day so just. Eventually we had to have a milsurp rifle involved in one right? Or maybe it was symbolic? The JFK rifle was old milsurp carcano and maybe he wanted to replicate that. Or maybe it was just the easiest one to access.

Agent Dana Scully

Who would "confirm" it? This "confusion" is a byproduct of two things: liberals not wanting to about a trans person was even tangentially involved, and not wanting to admit that clocky trans woman are valid as women

Degrassi Knoll

We spare each other vehicular and stabby mass murders, using guns like the founders intended. Work with what you got.

Court Hansen

Those texts definitely sound like a young person who is not very bright who is convinced of their own world historical importance and is trying to sound like what they think the martyred protagonist of the movie playing in their head would sound like.

Jeanie

Jordan from summer house is one of the more sinister reality tv show participants and I need to know how brace knows him.

yerrak

Bro writes like a say anything song

Jonah Stocks ladd

Israel could be doing the US a favor by giving the US govt a Reichstag fire, I mean it does kinda owe some favors. Just a thought not a theory

Josh Legere

Which is the 764 episode?

Heather Ormsbee

I keep listening to this, because its the thing that makes me laugh more than anything. Everyones little quips in this episode makes me so happy. Its fucked its about an assasin... but thats the world we live in.

Yangervis Solarte

The grand result of this Reichstag was Kirkification memes. Maybe the favor was for the taxpayers and not the politicians.

Yangervis Solarte

I think it’s just easier in a lot of states to get your hands on a “hunting rifle” than it is to buy something light and semi auto.

HANNAH

One with 764 in name

Tabitha

This is a pretty late suggestion, but the most play bella ciao has gotten in a centrist/liberal context has been in a Netflix show called Moneyheist. A bad remix version of it had lite-meme status as an astroturfed edit song that social media managers were trying to push while advertising the show, the show was also trying to force salvador dali masks as a new version of the guy fawkes mask, if anyone can actually remember that. I don't think anyone would for any reason reference this show while targeting a political ideolog, I don't even think a federal false flag would use it as a red herring directed towards leftists, it's just one of the only popular examples of the song being used outside of niche online political communities.